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Cabbit

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Real shame makes it that there is no native exchange or mobileme. So you would need a windows server for email, calendar ect.
 

Sky Blue

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I agree. Apple have set up the iPhone for these great push services if you use MS Exchange or MobileMe, but if you use their own OS X Server you're out of luck.
 

MacsRgr8

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I know the iPhone has triggered an all-out use of Exchange bla bla, but it I'm sure Apple will deliver a reasonable server alternative.
Leopard Server finally has *some* shared Calendar services, and better Mail services, etc. Nowhere near to Exchange yet..... yet.....
But the fact that Apple has started these services in OS X Server, I assume (nah... hope really) Snow Leopard Server will be a more competitive solution.
Apple still has a year (and if an iPhone 3 can be blamed, a couple of months more than that... :D) and hopefully 10.6 server will get us true enterprise possibilities.
 

Sun Baked

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May 19, 2002
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Not clear, wording keeps changing ... though people write about an exchange server alternative in Snow Leopard.
 

corbywan

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Feb 4, 2008
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This wording from the Snow Leopard page would indicate to me that they are including MobleMe-like features in it.

Snow Leopard Server delivers push notifications to mobile users outside your firewall, and a proxy service gives them secure remote access to email, address book contacts, calendars, and select internal websites.

Let's hope so because that would be very cool.
 

MacsRgr8

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It seems Snow Leopard client has individual Exchange 2007 support for Address Book and iCal.
So, I wonder how Apple will do this out-of-the-box Exchange support. I'm not sure if an AD client setup in 10.6 will be sufficient to enable all preferences in the necessary apps: iCal, Address Book, Mail.
But, early days yet...

Can't wait to see the Snow Leopard Server...
 

Sky Blue

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It seems Snow Leopard client has individual Exchange 2007 support for Address Book and iCal.
So, I wonder how Apple will do this out-of-the-box Exchange support. I'm not sure if an AD client setup in 10.6 will be sufficient to enable all preferences in the necessary apps: iCal, Address Book, Mail.
But, early days yet...

Can't wait to see the Snow Leopard Server...

I've been playing with 10.6 ... Exchange support is read only for now. There's also two separate versions of Address Book, one with Exchange support, one without.
 

Wotan31

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Jun 5, 2008
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it says on apple's site about snow leopard server that it has push notifications to clients outside the firewall
Yes but notifications of what? You still need a Windows server if you want to run Exchange.

What is Apple using for their internal email servers? It's not Exchange...
 

twoodcc

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Feb 3, 2005
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Yes but notifications of what? You still need a Windows server if you want to run Exchange.

What is Apple using for their internal email servers? It's not Exchange...

well, to my understanding it was from 10.6 server's collaboration stuff - wiki, blog, calendar - it said it even has a "my page" to see updates on all this stuff
 

Sky Blue

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= I'm not sure if an AD client setup in 10.6 will be sufficient to enable all preferences in the necessary apps: iCal, Address Book, Mail.

You don't need to bind the machine to use the Exchange integration. When setting up a Mail account in 10.6, there are options for setting up iCal and AB accounts.
 

MacsRgr8

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You don't need to bind the machine to use the Exchange integration. When setting up a Mail account in 10.6, there are options for setting up iCal and AB accounts.

But does it work if you do bind to AD...? i.e. Mail, iCal, Address Book all setup in one shot.
That's what Windows users are used to.... bind to domain, and all prefs are set.
 

tonyfortpedro

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Jul 1, 2008
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Zimbra?

Could Apple be adapting Zimbra to run as an Exchange replacement? My company has been using it for about 18 months with great success. It's still pretty rough in certain areas, but it's open source and Apple certainly has the software engineering expertise to clean it up and fork it as the 10.6 mail server component.
 

tonyfortpedro

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Jul 1, 2008
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Zimbra pushiness

Is Zimbra "pushy?"

The "network edition" of Zimbra does do push email, and works pretty well with Windows Mobile and Palm devices. That part of Zimbra is not open sourced due to licensing restrictions, but Apple already has licensed the ActiveSync protocol so it shouldn't be a problem.

The biggest problems with Zimbra IMHO are its less-than-smooth upgrade process, and the fact that its web and management UI is all written in Java. It performs OK, but it's very memory-hungry for what it does.
 

corbywan

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Feb 4, 2008
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Isn't there a poor-man's open source Exchange/Mobile Me for the rest of the rest of us that will do all the fun stuff Mobile Me will do, especially for a group environment?
 
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