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The App Recommendation thread seems to have gone very out of date. I'm new to DSLR photography so a long way from being classed amateur let alone professional but I do need a way of editing photos on my 2017 Mac. I have a Nikon 5600D camera.

Any suggestions? I certainly don't feel good enough for a subscription model by the way
 
I have both as well and I like Pixelmator Pro more. However, I think if you spend the time to learn Affinity it is probably more capable. I'm just an amateur and I find Pixelmator Pro super easy to learn.
 
Look at two levels of photo editing - overall and detail:

a. Overall image adjustment - DXO PhotoLab
  • Applies non-destructive corrections with sidecar files
  • "Quickly" adjusts a whole folder, or individual images .
  • Applies lens corrections, noise reduction, exposure correction, haze removal, etc.
  • Works with both JPEG and RAW files.
b. Pixel Level adjustment - Affinity Photo
  • Edits JPEG files at pixel level similar to Photoshop for less
  • Must convert RAW files to JPEG to edit
  • Has a learning curve
  • Use it to "fix parts" of your image vs. overall which it can do as well
    • Dust removal
    • Repair old photo scans
    • Remove items such as fence posts, wires, etc.
  • Can use to construct panoramas from multiple images
  • Can focus stack multiple images
  • You want to spend time to perfect an image
Here's a link to a forum for image editing:

DPReview Retouching

Beware, photo editing can be a rabbit hole, less is often more.
 
Affinity photo is good but editing 200 pictures could be a pain.
try capture one, one of the best and you can buy single standalone license.
to be honest, for beginner even native osx photos app is very capable..i am using that for my family pictures
 
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Honestly, if you’re really new to it, get your feet wet with Apples Photos app. There’s enough in it to give you a start on things.

Once you’re comfortable with that, move on to Affinity Photo or Pixelmator Pro. I’d be inclined to say that wile very good, Capture One is probably a bit much money to go spending at this stage - your decision of course.

I’m fond of both Affinity and Pixelmator, but for me Affinity just edges it… though I am prone to changing my mind :D
 
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I would also first try the included Mac photos app, and if there are important features missing, look specifically for an app that has those features. I personally am content with Photos.
 
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I'm a big fan of determining your needs by learning on a tool with limited capabilities. They're simpler to use, and thereby simpler to master. Once you've mastered a simpler tool and are frustrated by its limitations, you have a better idea of exactly what you'd like to have in a better tool.

Start with Photos. Despite over 50 years in photography (pro as well as amateur, in the darkroom as well as behind the camera), I still do the vast majority of my image editing in Photos - it has a wide range of very capable tools.

It's primary weaknesses are that it does not handle layers/image stacking/compositing at all, with the capabilities of its retouching tools coming a close second.

The manipulation techniques enabled by layers/image stacking/compositing are quite advanced (exposure stacking/HDR, focus stacking, and image compositing). Once you're sufficiently experienced as a photographer to know you want to do that sort of thing, you'll be ready for a more advance tool than Photos.

As to retouching - removing unwanted objects like telephone wires, fixing the exposure of a small area of an image, etc. - you're likely to want to do this earlier in your photographic explorations. While Photos has enough retouching tools to get you started, you will find they are quite limited compared to other tools like Photoshop, Affinity, etc.

Basically, first learn to crawl, then to walk. When you know you want to run it's time to get some running shoes.
 
Next will be Motion and FCP.....
Really sucks that Aperture was abandoned by Apple. :mad:
I feel like I'm in a time warp. Next people will be wishing for a return to Classic Mac OS (you know, the one that ran on Motorola chips and crashed on a regular basis).

I was an Aperture user. I really don't miss it. I never used its multiple-library/library management features, so to me its superiority over iPhoto (don't see many regrets of iPhoto's demise) had everything to do with image editing. While it's true that Photos started off at a disadvantage to Aperture in that regard, as the years have gone by Photos has come along quite nicely.

But the FCP/Motion comparison to Aperture is misplaced. Aperture never had the market share in photo organization/editing that FCP has in video, and there's no indication that FCP is in decline. Motion is essentially a FCP add-on, and is not likely to go away unless FCP does, or its functionality is added to FCP.

Effectively, in the days when these decisions were made, nearly every pro used Photoshop, which gave Adobe a huge, natural advantage for selling Lightroom as an image-organization solution (while other image edit apps have made inroads, essentially Photoshop is still the Microsoft Word of image editing). Aperture was very much like Mac was, back in the day - something used by a small, passionate group of users willing to think different.

Bottom line for Aperture's demise... Apple was rolling-out iCloud Photos as a consumer-focused service. Apple would have had to include iCloud Photos compatibility as a feature of Aperture, even if a minority of Aperture users would want it. This meant they would have had to change Aperture's library structure to be compatible with iCloud Photos. That would not have gone down at all well with the many Aperture users who would not have been interested in iCloud Photos at all (imagine the level of user anger if every Aperture library had to be converted "for no good reason"). Apple would also have had to consider whether iCloud Photos would support the kind of feature set demanded by pros, and provide the kind of massive iCloud storage plans pros would require. If a substantial percentage of Aperture's pro users would not be likely to opt-in to iCloud Photos... why build those capabilities into the service at all? Hundreds of millions of iPhone, iPad, and "consumer" Mac users vs. a tiny fraction of that number who might use iCloud for Aperture... No, that's what's known as the "tail wagging the dog."

So, Apple pulled the plug on Aperture. Makes tons of business sense. Like they said in The Godfather, "it's not personal, it's business."
 
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I feel like I'm in a time warp. Next people will be wishing for a return to Classic Mac OS (you know, the one that ran on Motorola chips and crashed on a regular basis).

I was an Aperture user. I really don't miss it. I never used its multiple-library/library management features, so to me its superiority over iPhoto (don't see many regrets of iPhoto's demise) had everything to do with image editing. While it's true that Photos started off at a disadvantage to Aperture in that regard, as the years have gone by Photos has come along quite nicely.

But the FCP/Motion comparison to Aperture is misplaced. Aperture never had the market share in photo organization/editing that FCP has in video, and there's no indication that FCP is in decline. Motion is essentially a FCP add-on, and is not likely to go away unless FCP does, or its functionality is added to FCP.

Effectively, in the days when these decisions were made, nearly every pro used Photoshop, which gave Adobe a huge, natural advantage for selling Lightroom as an image-organization solution (while other image edit apps have made inroads, essentially Photoshop is still the Microsoft Word of image editing). Aperture was very much like Mac was, back in the day - something used by a small, passionate group of users willing to think different.

Bottom line for Aperture's demise... Apple was rolling-out iCloud Photos as a consumer-focused service. Apple would have had to include iCloud Photos compatibility as a feature of Aperture, even if a minority of Aperture users would want it. This meant they would have had to change Aperture's library structure to be compatible with iCloud Photos. That would not have gone down at all well with the many Aperture users who would not have been interested in iCloud Photos at all (imagine the level of user anger if every Aperture library had to be converted "for no good reason"). Apple would also have had to consider whether iCloud Photos would support the kind of feature set demanded by pros, and provide the kind of massive iCloud storage plans pros would require. If a substantial percentage of Aperture's pro users would not be likely to opt-in to iCloud Photos... why build those capabilities into the service at all? Hundreds of millions of iPhone, iPad, and "consumer" Mac users vs. a tiny fraction of that number who might use iCloud for Aperture... No, that's what's known as the "tail wagging the dog."

So, Apple pulled the plug on Aperture. Makes tons of business sense. Like they said in The Godfather, "it's not personal, it's business."
Photos is utter garbage.
 
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There's one less known app that has been around for many years - Photoline. I'd say it is even more advanced than Affinity Photo, very close to Photoshop at fraction of price (and no sybscription of course), it is also very nicely optimiesed - takes only a fraction of disk space needed for other, well known editors and it is really fast. More on its capabilities here:
 
Interesting that no one mentioned Lightroom.
Those, who care about their privacy, do not want client-server based applications, where the server is under the control of strangers.

Standalone apps, what not need the internet connestion to work, are better.
 
Those, who care about their privacy, do not want client-server based applications, where the server is under the control of strangers.

Standalone apps, what not need the internet connestion to work, are better.

The app is not on a server. Lightroom (and Photoshop, etc.) are resident on the user's hard drive. If you want to check, just turn off your wi-fi and launch the app.

What it does is occasionally ping Adobe upon launch to make sure that the app is registered to that machine with an up-to-date subscription.
 
Lightroom is advertised here as a cloud-based application. That's mean it's client-server app.
Maybe "Lightroom Classic" is standalone app.
 
Lightroom is advertised here as a cloud-based application. That's mean it's client-server app.
Maybe "Lightroom Classic" is standalone app.
Likewise, the non-Classic LR app (Lightroom CC) is resident on my hard drive. What it does is sync with an Adobe Creative Cloud account to save images there. I was able to launch it and run it with wi-fi turned off. You can import and work on images on your desktop with LR CC, then sync them to cloud storage later. Here's an explainer of the differences between the two.
 
What it does is sync with an Adobe Creative Cloud account to save images there.
This is an action that does not need to be done and should not be done. Backups must go on a your own personal backup server in your own basement, not anywhere in the cloud.
 
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