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apple2me

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Here is my small test results after running CPU intensive process on Mac Pro.

My main use cases are running data analysis and plotting figures mostly using R-studio IDE. This does not put this machine to any stress at all. It is way overpowered for that purpose. The real test comes with the software to analyze genomic data. I have plenty of raw data from Microbiome sequencing reads. This is an ideal data to put the CPU under stress for longer period of time.

I happened to have Soil microbiome dataset that I needed to analyze for protein content. I decided to use https://github.com/bbuchfink/diamond for that purpose. It is faster than NCBI Blast alignment software and practical enough to be used on workstation. Overall, the file input size is around 11 GB gzipped. I decided to use 9 CPUs out of 12-cores in order to spare some CPU cores for other side tasks such as web-surfing and playing music.
Here are some stats from the Intel Power Gadget software sampled for 13 minutes (https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/intel-power-gadget) which I saved on CSV file attached in this post.


If you just want to get gist of it, the CPU core temperature ranged from 92 – 70 degree celsius! (197.6 – 158 degree F). Now that is a very hot temperature. The 3 huge intake fans in the front were at 500 RPM. Average CPU (Xeon W-3235 3.3 GHz 12-core) power usage was at 162.87 Watt and DRAM (96 GB = (8GB*4)+(32GB*2)) power usage was at 41.75 Watt. The thermal output for Mac Pro as per Apple website is here : https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201796

Bash:
sudo powermeterics

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The ambient temperature using my infrared gun was 29-31º C in top-front side and 43-45 º C in the top back. I could feel the heat emanating under my desk. This makes sense since CPU is located on the top section. For the reference, the ambient temperature was 26.67 ºC (80ºF) in the room.
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The sound level as measured by the 4th gen Apple watch is around 34 dB. I can barely hear it behind the background noise in my home. The process has been running for close to 24 hours and the temperature have stayed at this level.

I am not sure what can I say about the longevity of this machine based on this informal test. It seems to be really silent and I love silent machines.
 

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fendersrule

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Welcome to Apple. The Mac Pro 5,1 is the same thing. FWIW, I did a CPU stress test on my 5,1 and it got to 95c after 8 minutes. Apple would rather you not hear the machine than to slowly ramp the fans on to keep it at at a cooler temperature.

So nothing really new here. Apple will typically let the CPU temp get towards the higher end of the allowed range before it starts cranking up the fans.

When it comes to "keeping it cool" vs "keeping it quiet", Apple chooses to "keep it quiet". It's just a different philosophy. When I build my next PC, I certainly wouldn't like seeing anything near 90c during a stress test...
 

jinnyman

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Whatever you are doing is really taxing the machine. I only saw several snippets of the benchmarks and temperatures, but I’ve been under impression that a MP 7,1 thermals are really great. Most of loaded benches I saw online were able to push the temperature of CPU to 70s?

If sustained load is keeping CPU at 90s, that’s not good thermal.
 
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MaxYuryev

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You said it was a 13min run? did you go for longer and see if the fans ended up ramping up after because what what you posted your fans are literally running at idle. The new 16" MacBook Pro with better cooling will run at 93C consistently under 100% CPU load and 100% fans at 3.1Ghz. The previous 15" 8 core models ran at 95C and slowed down more so.

At 95C is where the CPU will slow itself down automatically (could be even just a bit) in order to not get any hotter.

I suspect that after a longer period the Mac Pro will spin up its fans slightly (still super quiet) and run run at 80C or so consistently which is not a problem. If you want it to run cooler you can use TG Fan Pro to create your own custom profile and set the fans to run at 700RPM (out of 2500) if the temps go above 75C and that should solve it.

Here is our testing on thermals.
 

apple2me

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You said it was a 13min run? did you go for longer and see if the fans ended up ramping up after because what what you posted your fans are literally running at idle.

I stopped running the Intel Power Gadget after 13 minutes.

The temps remained at similar temperature after more than an hour. I did run "powermetrics" intermittently but I saw no increase in temperature above 93ºC or fan speed above 500 RPM. I suspect the fans would have spin faster after reaching at or above 95ºC.
 

yellow_lupine

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Do you find annoying the heat emanating in the room during CPU intensive tasks? I'm thinking on buying a 16-core Mac Pro but I am worried about my room being filled with warm air
 

yellow_lupine

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There's something I don't understand on Apple power consumption page for the Mac Pro:

- they lists the 8-core CPU with 32GB RAM at 430W Max, but apple2me reports his 12-core with 96GB RAM at 204.62W (162.87W CPU + 41,75W RAM), much below the 8-core advertised by Apple and arock lists 320W (200W CPU + 120W RAM) for his 16-core 384GB RAM (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-mac-pro-power-consumption.2223982/)

- zhpenn lists a consumption of 398W for the 28-core CPU Max (https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...update-macpro-power-consumption-test.2217625/)

So I am a little confused :confused:
Someone can help me? I'm trying to identify the amout of power I should expect for a 16-core with 256GB RAM
 

h9826790

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There's something I don't understand on Apple power consumption page for the Mac Pro:

- they lists the 8-core CPU with 32GB RAM at 430W Max, but apple2me reports his 12-core with 96GB RAM at 204.62W (162.87W CPU + 41,75W RAM), much below the 8-core advertised by Apple and arock lists 320W (200W CPU + 120W RAM) for his 16-core 384GB RAM (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/new-mac-pro-power-consumption.2223982/)

- zhpenn lists a consumption of 398W for the 28-core CPU Max (https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...update-macpro-power-consumption-test.2217625/)

So I am a little confused :confused:
Someone can help me? I'm trying to identify the amout of power I should expect for a 16-core with 256GB RAM
If you look at the spec, that 900W consumption is from a 1.5TB RAM + dual Vega II Duo + Afterburner card +4TB SSD.

If you plan to only upgrade the CPU from the base config, that most likely end up with something a bit below 500W at max consumption.
 

yellow_lupine

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If you look at the spec, that 900W consumption is from a 1.5TB RAM + dual Vega II Duo + Afterburner card +4TB SSD.

If you plan to only upgrade the CPU from the base config, that most likely end up with something a bit below 500W at max consumption.

So what Apple reports as CPU Max is the sum of all of the components? Much more reasonable then
 

h9826790

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So what Apple reports as CPU Max is the sum of all of the components? Much more reasonable then
Screenshot 2020-05-12 at 4.42.53 PM.png

It says the compute task will maximise the CPU, it never says won't stress RAM / GPU / etc. I have no idea how they perform the test exactly. But apparently their compute test can utilise that 2x Vega II duo as well.
 
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