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lostngone

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Aug 11, 2003
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Does anyone know if the X1900 XT that is an option on the Mac Pro is the same spec as a PC X1900 XT or is it a lesser X1900 that is re-badged for Apple.
 

NYmacAttack

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Dec 8, 2005
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I don't think anyone has received a x1900 so you'll have to wait until one shows up to know for sure. In the end what does it matter?
 

Hornblower

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Jul 6, 2006
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Check this out:
http://anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2811&p=7

The Radeon X1900 XT used in the Mac Pro appears to have a 1.3GHz memory clock, which is slower than the 1.45GHz clock of the PC version. The core clock is also slower than the PC version at 600MHz, instead of 625MHz. Historically, ATI Mac Edition cards have always been clocked lower than their PC counterparts; ATI explained the reasoning behind this disparity as having to do with basic supply and demand. The demand for Mac video cards is lower than their PC counterparts, so ATI runs them at lower clock speeds to maintain their desired profit per card regardless of whether they are selling to Mac or PC markets.
 

Chaszmyr

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Aug 9, 2002
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ehurtley said:
Which is interesting, since they sell the Mac cards with a 50% markup over the PC cards... So they're saying that a 50% markup isn't enough, they also need to use slower parts... Wonderful.

ATI's alleged explanation doesn't make any sense, why would selling Mac cards at a lower speed help them sell more units in either market?
 

dmw007

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May 26, 2005
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ehurtley said:
Which is interesting, since they sell the Mac cards with a 50% markup over the PC cards... So they're saying that a 50% markup isn't enough, they also need to use slower parts... Wonderful.

My thoughts exactly. :rolleyes: Shame on ATI. :mad:
 

LoveMacMini

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Jul 30, 2006
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Uhh isn't it obvious?

Slap a "Mac edition" in front of everything and it's more expensive.

Belkin does it with cables, ATi does it with video cards, every single memory seller does it with RAM, the same iPod accessory for a regular mp3 player costs 10 dollars more because it says it's for an iPod.

You know it's sad it took you guys this long to see that ... but honestly I'm glad you guys are seeing it now.

Mac's and PC's run on the same parts. Don't ever get fooled into buying Mac edition anything. a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g

So for all you who are wondering WTF is going on, well it's about time you're IQ got knocked up a few points :D
 

quruli

macrumors regular
Aug 11, 2006
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LoveMacMini said:
Uhh isn't it obvious?

Slap a "Mac edition" in front of everything and it's more expensive.

Belkin does it with cables, ATi does it with video cards, every single memory seller does it with RAM, the same iPod accessory for a regular mp3 player costs 10 dollars more because it says it's for an iPod.

You know it's sad it took you guys this long to see that ... but honestly I'm glad you guys are seeing it now.

Mac's and PC's run on the same parts. Don't ever get fooled into buying Mac edition anything. a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g

So for all you who are wondering WTF is going on, well it's about time you're IQ got knocked up a few points :D

Wow assuming we are all stupid is a great way to get your point across.

You act as if Mac products are the only ones to see such treatment. For example:

Some guy buys a Dell computer. He wants to upgrade his memory. He hops online he sees some memory and has no idea if it will work. Where does he go? Crucial.com, pops in his model and bam. Memory. No worries guaranteed to work. He could have easily gone to newegg.com and paid %25 less if he knew what he needed. So what is your point?

Part of the problem is that in order to get compatible parts with a Mac, you have to buy a Mac edition. Maybe you missed most of the posts saying that 3rd party graphics cards aren't working in the Mac Pro in OS X. So what choice do we have? Do we just not buy the things we need because there is a premium tacked on?

It sucks, but it is important to know when you have to and when you don't. For instance, if you were to buy Mac edition memory, hard drives, cd/dvd drivers, fans, usb cables, processors, etc. You would be a fool. However for expansion cards, many times there is no choice since the drivers just aren't there.

Apple should really work on driver support. It would definetly help them build marketshare and keep more customers happy. I think Apple offers great solutions, but they definetly need to get on the drivers. But maybe with the increased marketshare manufacturers will start supporting Macs. Who knows?
 
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