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rbfinch2

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I usually do video editing on the side on my Mac Mini - M1. I've been eying the Studio for some time. If I buy the base model will I have issues with 512 being too slow like all the other m2 issues on the base model?
 

mr_jomo

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You'll have zero issues, the mac Studio base config is a dual nand-setup - all good 🤩.

If you'd like to know more, ArtisRight has investigated and documented this extensively (EXSUM: if you don't multitask excessively, any material impact on even pro-workflows from the 256 GB single nand base M2 lives almost exclusively in the hyperbole ladden videos from youtubers like Max Tech).

Good place to start with ArtisRight's information on the topic:

 

mcnallym

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Bear in mind that a single nand flash on the m2 is still 1500mbps

I remember when would buy a pair of WD raptors at 10000rpm hdd for gaming rig and raid them and still nowhere near that.

youtubers have to get hits.
 

ErneX

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You'll have zero issues, the mac Studio base config is a dual nand-setup - all good 🤩.

If you'd like to know more, ArtisRight has investigated and documented this extensively (EXSUM: if you don't multitask excessively, any material impact on even pro-workflows from the 256 GB single nand base M2 lives almost exclusively in the hyperbole ladden videos from youtubers like Max Tech).

Good place to start with ArtisRight's information on the topic:


The M1 for sure, but we don’t know if OP is asking about the M2, on that one we cannot be sure they will keep doing it on the base model (that is until people start receiving their orders and test), the new MBPs with 512GB were also affected by this…
 

okkibs

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I remember when would buy a pair of WD raptors at 10000rpm hdd for gaming rig and raid them and still nowhere near that.
Imagine if the M2 chip turned out 40% slower than the M1 chip. Would you then go "it's still faster than the old Intel CPU from many years ago"? What kind of argument is this? Apple quietly downgraded later/newer models in storage speeds, your comparison with older tech is besides the point.

And it's not like the difference is minor, it's up to 40% in reads and up to 18% in writes. It also shortens the total NAND endurance a bit, meaning that the SSD will endure less writes before failing. And SSDs just like HDDs, or batteries, have a finite lifespan. Many people won't care about the performance difference and especially in a cheap consumer device like a Macbook Air the SSD will never see so many writes. But we're in a Mac Studio thread.

If I buy the base model will I have issues with 512 being too slow like all the other m2 issues on the base model?
The M1 Studio base model is not slower, but we do not know about the M2 Studio because it's not yet available. If you ask this again in 2-3 days we'll know the answer, I think it's releasing tomorrow.
 
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maverick100

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I really think what you purchase is really based on your needs and everyone is different. I used to do some really intense editing of video files. I no longer do that. I used to replace my iMac every other iMac release. This time I am replacing a 2017. My needs now are replacing that iMac with a machine that will get the work done for me.
Budget plays a little bit in the plan. Example I have 144tb of external storage in two 4bay thunderbolt enclosures. So I use internal storage just to run the software Almost nothing is stored on the internal hd. Itunes library is over 15tb. to me 1tb gives me the space I need. Here is the configuration I ordered. I would have maxed ram but ran out of money.

  • Accessory Kit
  • 64GB unified memory
  • Front: Two USB-C ports, one SDXC card slot
  • Apple M2 Max with 12‑core CPU, 38‑core GPU, 16‑core Neural Engine
  • 1TB SSD storage
  • Back: Four Thunderbolt 4 ports, two USB-A ports, one HDMI port, one 10Gb Ethernet port, one 3.5 mm headphone jack
I really wanted 96gig of ram but the extra $700 was over budget.

I am hoping this Mac will several years for my needs.

I also order a Mac Studio Monitor with the tilt base. Monitor has been for several days; everything just waiting for Mac Studio to arrive. I will build this Mac from scratch. No Time Machine restore or from another Mac.

Can't wait to get it here and get Started.

One more thing. Google Fiber just increase their speed in maybe to 5gigs with rumors for 8 or 10 soon. It will be fun to play with the new setup.

Thanks to everyone that posts on the Forums. I learn so much and have so many questions answered before I even knew I had questions.
 
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rbfinch2

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Imagine if the M2 chip turned out 40% slower than the M1 chip. Would you then go "it's still faster than the old Intel CPU from many years ago"? What kind of argument is this? Apple quietly downgraded later/newer models in storage speeds, your comparison with older tech is besides the point.

And it's not like the difference is minor, it's up to 40% in reads and up to 18% in writes. It also shortens the total NAND endurance a bit, meaning that the SSD will endure less writes before failing. And SSDs just like HDDs, or batteries, have a finite lifespan. Many people won't care about the performance difference and especially in a cheap consumer device like a Macbook Air the SSD will never see so many writes. But we're in a Mac Studio thread.


The M1 Studio base model is not slower, but we do not know about the M2 Studio because it's not yet available. If you ask this again in 2-3 days we'll know the answer, I think it's releasing tomorrow.
Thanks man. I am going to wait to see what the reviews say.
 

yadmonkey

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I will build this Mac from scratch. No Time Machine restore or from another Mac.
My 2017 just went belly up and I ordered a similar Studio to yours, but with the base 30-core M2 Max proc. Driving myself a little crazy trying to choose a monitor, though!

I too decided to do a clean build after 5 OS upgrades on the iMac. Enjoy your new setup!
 
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