I doubt about CPU importance in your situation:iMac
4.2GHz quad-core i7 (up to 4.5GHz)
64 GB RAM
Radeon Pro 580 8 GB GDDR5
iMac Pro
3.0GHz 10-core Xeon (up to 4.5GHz)
64 GB RAM
Radeon Pro Vega 64 16 GB HBM2
Current computer:
Mid 2012 MacBook Pro, maxed out
2.7GHz quad-core i7 (up to 3.7GHz)
16 GB RAM
GeForce GT 650M 1 GB
Used for:
Photoshop CC
Illustrator CC
- Image average-stacking hundreds of high-resolution 14-bit RAW files (fills up my RAM in my laptop and slows down a ton after that, sometimes freezing or never completing when doing upwards of 300 images) resulting in 5-15 GB files
- Manipulating multiple smart objects
- Panorama stitching of 300+ megapixel 14-bit images, and manipulating pictures that are 10+ GB per file
- Aligning of over 50+ JPEG images (anything over 30 completely freezes my MBP and process does not complete)
- Batch processing RAWs (MBP handles great)
InDesign CC
- Digital illustration, vector drawing, web mockups. Currently lags on NVIDIA 650M but is totally usable. Would love a great GPU to make it fly, though.
Bridge CC
- Exporting of 100-page publications with artwork and high-resolution TIFFs
- Lags a little, especially with quality settings on high, but is totally usable when it doesn’t lock up. The more high-res bitmap images, the laggier. I want to eventually get a 4K monitor to use alongside the internal display, and that would only make things worse here.
Lightroom & After Effects CC
- Previews of hundreds of images render slowly and max out CPU, and fans go crazy until it's done
Final Cut Pro
- Render timelapse footage from gigabytes of 16-bit Photoshop documents
- Cutting 1080p & 4K ProRes footage. No 8K footage and no RAW video.
- Runs great on the MBP with 1080p video. Less experience with 4K, but hopefully I’m going to figure out a new camera for myself in the future which does record 4K.
- I have not used Premiere Pro CC extensively, but it's possible I could switch to that workflow for individual projects if I'm involved in something that requires it.
If I knew every operation in all of these Adobe apps were optimized for multicore through-and-through I’d know the 10-core is the ultimate choice. Yet I’m also thinking that the i7 in the iMac wouldn’t give me a substantial improvement over the i7 in the MBP; maybe 10-20% at most. I’d end up in a situation where I spend a whole lot of money and get very little performance increase, or spend an even more insane amount of money and get a whole lot of it?
I know the beefier GPU will definitely help with InDesign & Illustrator, and those apps & Photoshop eat up VRAM like it’s nothing.
By the way, I know I’m looking for something better because of the MBP, but I’m always amazed at how much of this I’ve managed to do on it! Everyone else I know does a lot of this on desktops. Really speaks to what a great machine it is. I've been throwing lots of stuff at it, so for the past 2-3 years it's been glitching out/having graphical distortion & unexpected restarts, unfortunately, but it's pretty easy to work through it! (Save a lot.)
Anyway, I honestly don’t know how I’d manage to afford an iMac Pro, but I can probably scrape together the cash, and I know someone who might be able to get me an employee discount. I'm just exploring at this point to see if it's even worth it.
Hadn’t really heard of this site before and I don’t usually post on forums, but hopefully some good will come of it! Would love it if anyone with experience with my core programs chimed in. I'm awful at replying but know that I am reading your input—thank you and much appreciated!
If the i7 27" is too much then, what would you suggest? The 64 GB of memory is definitely crazy,
Okay. that the answer i want and everybody want to knew also.. Seem i see the problem now.Great point. Though I have had various graphic design jobs previously, at the moment I’m not producing commercial design work. And I certainly did not make enough to quickly pay for an iMac Pro.
iMac
4.2GHz quad-core i7 (up to 4.5GHz)
64 GB RAM
Radeon Pro 580 8 GB GDDR5
iMac Pro
3.0GHz 10-core Xeon (up to 4.5GHz)
64 GB RAM
Radeon Pro Vega 64 16 GB HBM2
Current computer:
Mid 2012 MacBook Pro, maxed out
2.7GHz quad-core i7 (up to 3.7GHz)
16 GB RAM
GeForce GT 650M 1 GB
Used for:
Photoshop CC
Illustrator CC
- Image average-stacking hundreds of high-resolution 14-bit RAW files (fills up my RAM in my laptop and slows down a ton after that, sometimes freezing or never completing when doing upwards of 300 images) resulting in 5-15 GB files
- Manipulating multiple smart objects
- Panorama stitching of 300+ megapixel 14-bit images, and manipulating pictures that are 10+ GB per file
- Aligning of over 50+ JPEG images (anything over 30 completely freezes my MBP and process does not complete)
- Batch processing RAWs (MBP handles great)
InDesign CC
- Digital illustration, vector drawing, web mockups. Currently lags on NVIDIA 650M but is totally usable. Would love a great GPU to make it fly, though.
Bridge CC
- Exporting of 100-page publications with artwork and high-resolution TIFFs
- Lags a little, especially with quality settings on high, but is totally usable when it doesn’t lock up. The more high-res bitmap images, the laggier. I want to eventually get a 4K monitor to use alongside the internal display, and that would only make things worse here.
Lightroom & After Effects CC
- Previews of hundreds of images render slowly and max out CPU, and fans go crazy until it's done
Final Cut Pro
- Render timelapse footage from gigabytes of 16-bit Photoshop documents
- Cutting 1080p & 4K ProRes footage. No 8K footage and no RAW video.
- Runs great on the MBP with 1080p video. Less experience with 4K, but hopefully I’m going to figure out a new camera for myself in the future which does record 4K.
- I have not used Premiere Pro CC extensively, but it's possible I could switch to that workflow for individual projects if I'm involved in something that requires it.
If I knew every operation in all of these Adobe apps were optimized for multicore through-and-through I’d know the 10-core is the ultimate choice. Yet I’m also thinking that the i7 in the iMac wouldn’t give me a substantial improvement over the i7 in the MBP; maybe 10-20% at most. I’d end up in a situation where I spend a whole lot of money and get very little performance increase, or spend an even more insane amount of money and get a whole lot of it?
I know the beefier GPU will definitely help with InDesign & Illustrator, and those apps & Photoshop eat up VRAM like it’s nothing.
By the way, I know I’m looking for something better because of the MBP, but I’m always amazed at how much of this I’ve managed to do on it! Everyone else I know does a lot of this on desktops. Really speaks to what a great machine it is. I've been throwing lots of stuff at it, so for the past 2-3 years it's been glitching out/having graphical distortion & unexpected restarts, unfortunately, but it's pretty easy to work through it! (Save a lot.)
Anyway, I honestly don’t know how I’d manage to afford an iMac Pro, but I can probably scrape together the cash, and I know someone who might be able to get me an employee discount. I'm just exploring at this point to see if it's even worth it.
Hadn’t really heard of this site before and I don’t usually post on forums, but hopefully some good will come of it! Would love it if anyone with experience with my core programs chimed in. I'm awful at replying but know that I am reading your input—thank you and much appreciated!
I tried the Hackintosh route, and wasted a lot of time and money on it that could have been better spent working. Only to end up with a computer that I couldn't trust to work properly from one day to the next. Just buy a real Mac and concentrate on your studies/work instead.Last thought I had is making time for a Hackintosh. Something in between the iMac and the Pro that’d hopefully be cheaper than either.
I believe the iMacs aren’t bad value for money like PC people claim, once you add in the wide-gamut 5K display and the gorgeous design. For really cheap performance and upgradability though, I can put up with an ugly case. I haven’t worked with any monitor beyond 15” and I’d really, really look forward to that too at this point. For my kind of work it would feel so freeing.
Thank you all for your measured and thoughtful ideas! I didn’t know what this would be like but I really appreciate it.