Geekbench, if you care about that one.
i7: Expect about 4450 / 8400
i5: Expect about 4000 / 7400
m3: Expect about 3800 / 7000
IOW, the jump from m3 to i5 isn't very big, but the jump from i5 to i7 is somewhat bigger. Only problem is theoretically, the i7 might throttle faster, esp. when compared to the m3.
I bought the m3, BTW.
More realistically 3400 / 6400 for 2016 m5 on a good day, but that still means that 2017 m3 is noticeably faster than 2016 m5.
Thanks for the bench. Is this problem documented somewhere? It was an issue on 2015 versions with the upper cpu, but has it been noticed since?Only problem is theoretically, the i7 might throttle faster, esp. when compared to the m3.
Was an issue with the 2016:Thanks for the bench. Is this problem documented somewhere? It was an issue on 2015 versions with the upper cpu, but has it been noticed since?
Geekbench, if you care about that one.
i7: Expect about 4450 / 8400
i5: Expect about 4000 / 7400
m3: Expect about 3800 / 7000
IOW, the jump from m3 to i5 isn't very big, but the jump from i5 to i7 is somewhat bigger. Only problem is theoretically, the i7 might throttle faster, esp. when compared to the m3.
I bought the m3, BTW.
I only need 256 GB, so I put the extra money towards more RAM. I went with the 256 GB SSD / 16 GB RAM combo.Why did you buy the m3?
Thanks! wonder if outside some pick (a software build for ex), the i7 isn't faster on day normal usage. Thoughts? I personally hesitate between the i5 and i7. For now I'm failing to find some feedback about normal usages of machines with this CPU.Was an issue with the 2016:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Face-Off-Apple-MacBook-12-Core-m3-Core-m5-and-Core-m7.172046.0.html
Note the fastest in this set of repeated Cinebench R15 runs was consistently the m5.
I want to see some comparisons of the i5 and i7 (and m3) for sustained loads. If the i7 throttles down too much again in 2017 then it's pointless. But if they've somehow fixed that, or if the 2016 test was just an anomaly, then it would be a decent upgrade over the m3/i5.Thanks! wonder if outside some pick (a software build for ex), the i7 isn't faster on day normal usage. Thoughts? I personally hesitate between the i5 and i7. For now I'm failing to find some feedback about normal usages of machines with this CPU.
Last year the m5 was the sweet spot since Intel crippled the Turbo Boost on m3 chip relative to the m5. This year they brought the m3 back up to speed.Geekbench, if you care about that one.
i7: Expect about 4450 / 8400
i5: Expect about 4000 / 7400
m3: Expect about 3800 / 7000
IOW, the jump from m3 to i5 isn't very big, but the jump from i5 to i7 is somewhat bigger. Only problem is theoretically, the i7 might throttle faster, esp. when compared to the m3.
I bought the m3, BTW.
I want to see some comparisons of the i5 and i7 (and m3) for sustained loads. If the i7 throttles down too much again in 2017 then it's pointless. But if they've somehow fixed that, or if the 2016 test was just an anomaly, then it would be a decent upgrade over the m3/i5.
And the i5 upgrade over the m3 upgrade is only marginal in terms of CPU speed. IMO, the main reason to get the i5 is to get the 512 GB SSD.
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BTW, the other thing is the i7 has the fastest GPU Turbo speed.
m3: 300 MHz and 900 MHz Turbo
i5: 300 MHz and 950 MHz Turbo
i7: 300 MHz and 1050 MHz Turbo
I have no idea what that means in real world terms though.
All of them have have the CPU base speed increased by 100 MHz. However, that isn’t “overclocked”. That’s acceptable if the voltage/power specs are met. Intel allows adjustment like that.I ordered the i7 but now I'm not sure tempted to cancel it for just the m3 + 16 go (though there may be a reason for the i5 vs m3 since the m3 is over clocked...
oh... you're right thanks for the info.All of them have have the CPU base speed increased by 100 MHz. However, that isn’t “overclocked”. That’s acceptable if the voltage/power specs are met. Intel allows adjustment like that.
Not sure if it's helpful but I just opened 30 tabs of macrumors forums in chrome on my 2017 i7 16GB RAM and it slowed down to a crawl for about 5 minutes before all the tabs crashed (but stayed). During the whole time though, CPU was only 30-50%, RAM was about 7GB, and all other apps including expose worked fast and smooth. Not sure if this is the cpu not capable of pulling Chrome through these tabs or just a problem with chrome.
Safari is definitely faster, but the integration with other machines is pretty sweet, and nothing beats the automatic translation, unless you can tell me a better solution/plug-in.Chrome for macOS is garbage. I cringe every time I see someone using this crappy software on their brand new MacBook. Better buy a Chromebook if you desperately need to use this disgrace of a browser.
I just got a 2017 i5 with 512SSD and 8GB Ram....
Geekbench 4 - CPU: Single-Core 3927 / Mulit-Core 7507
Geekbench 4 - Compute OpenCL: 17452
Blackmagic Disk: Read 1330 / Write 1245
Cinebench: OpenGL Test: 26.52 fps / CPU: 260 cb
Unigine Heaven: Basic: FPS: 17.6 / Score: 444 / MinFPS 6.8 / MaxFPS 29.2
Unigine Heaven: Custom Medium Quality, 1440x900: FPS: 12.5 / Score: 315 / MinFPS 5.8 / MaxFPS 20.4
What kind of Cinebench score is this and how does it compare to the m3 results here:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-MacBook-12-2017-Laptop-Review.230656.0.html
Its the normal cinbench benchmark.... The results in that review seem to be comparison to a baseline...
The graph showing the throttling behavior is really interesting. By any chance, can you produce something like that for your i5? Would love to see it.
In my opinion it is very good for such a portable device... of course my MacBook Pro 15 i7 late 2013 is faster, but for Mail, Safari, MS Office, Omnifocus, Devonthink pro office (my main programs for working throughout the day) there is no real difference other than of course screen size..... For me it is my everywhere computer... I like having MacOs instead of iOS. I tried a iPad with external Keyboard for 3 month but its not for my computing habits...ı dont understand anything with numbers :/ is it good or not that scores