MacBook M2 not charging after hibernating

[al404]

After I did upgrade to 15.6 I did charge several times my MacBook Air M2 while not fully discharged

Last night I forgot and this morning did not power up, I connect the power source but did not charge.

I try on magsafe, usb-c, with a different charger but it doesn't seem to charge
I read some issue similar to this some time ago but I can't remember on what version of macOS and if is possible to recover from this state

Apple support did say to try to let fully discharge for some days and then try to connect again the charger

the dark one is M3 the grey M2, not sure what it could mean

 

[Honza1]

I do not understand why you assume it is charging issue. If you plug the USB-C power in on anyone of the ports and try to boot, it should boot charged or discharged. If it does not do anything, it is dead - hardware issue - and the ones who can figure out more is Apple Genius Bar or Apple service. If possible, I would take it to Apple store (or call Apple and arrange for sending it for service) and ask them to evaluate what the problem is. If it is under warranty, it should be easy. If not, they can give you quote on cost of repair.
I had MBP ~8 years ago which died overnight without any obvious reason. It is electronics, something can go wrong any time.

 

[al404]

It has just a little more than 2 years, used only at home browse the web and few other things, no water on it...
If I take to Apple they will ask a price that is not wort it, they are disposable devices
If I will get an other one I will go for the cheaper solution available

Unfortunately, it seems to be a widespread occurrence and is not normal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/macbookpro/comments/17mea53/apple_quoted_700_for_logic_board_replacement_of

 

[Honza1]

$700 for MacBook Pro logic board is what I paid for 2017 MBP mainboard replacement when charging chips went belly up. That is in line what Apple charges for long time now. That was $3k machine, well worth fixing.
But you have Air, I would expect Air to be somehow cheaper, but not that much.
Apple will provide estimate for repair cost for free, so no reason not to ask for quote and then decide. May be something less expensive is wrong. Not sure what it would be, but worth the try.
These devices are pretty much just few (expensive) components together. They are pretty reliable, but they still do fail as any electronics does. There supposedly are cheaper non-Apple repair places which might be able to fix it cheaper, never used those. I usually buy Apple care and assume when it expires, the device is on borrowed time and if it fails, it is replaced. But, I still run mini from 2013 and retired most Apple devices still working.

 

[al404]

I will ask but I'm not going to pay that much money
I may try to ask to some low cost reparation center
Hope Apple will propose some upgrade to low price

I'm not going to replace my that machine otherwise

 

[StoneJack]

I will ask but I'm not going to pay that much money
I may try to ask to some low cost reparation center
Hope Apple will propose some upgrade to low price

I'm not going to replace my that machine otherwise

try a third party repair shop. Chances are this is a small capacitator on the mainboard's power circuit. But it also may be a larger issue. anyway, get a check either by Apple or third party repair shop. You can always sell for parts too and just buy a newer m4/ incoming m5. hardware issues happen maybe there was electrical fluctuation during charging

 

[StoneJack]

After I did upgrade to 15.6 I did charge several times my MacBook Air M2 while not fully discharged

Last night I forgot and this morning did not power up, I connect the power source but did not charge.

I try on magsafe, usb-c, with a different charger but it doesn't seem to charge
I read some issue similar to this some time ago but I can't remember on what version of macOS and if is possible to recover from this state

Apple support did say to try to let fully discharge for some days and then try to connect again the charger

the dark one is M3 the grey M2, not sure what it could mean

is it booting?

 

[al404]

is it booting?

It wasn't charging, last time it was charging I was using my Mac and kept using after disconnecting the charger
Then I did let the Mac fully discharge and did not charge or boot

 

[StoneJack]

It wasn't charging, last time it was charging I was using my Mac and kept using after disconnecting the charger
Then I did let the Mac fully discharge and did not charge or boot

try boot

 

[Ruggy]

I know you said you tried another charger but just checking: you have tried with an original mac charger?
I mention it because when the mac is completely discharged (this goes for the watch too) a lot of chargers just don't recognise the device down that far. (I don't know how to put this technically but you'll check and it's the same with car batteries and chargers too.)
Anyway, it's something I've come across several times with a really flat mac or watch and the solution is to find a charger that can see it. The original Apple chargers do so if you've tried that then I'm afraid it's something else

 

[al404]

I own a 15 MacBook M3 and 13 Macbook M2 ( the dead one ) and I try with both chargers on magsafe and on USB-C
But it doesn't wake up, I used a third party USB-C cable, I can check with the original one if I can recognize

 

[al404]

Official reseller ask me 60€ to send it to the lab but he also said 90% is the logic board about 500€
basically, they are disposable devices

 

[racerhomie]

I own a 15 MacBook M3 and 13 Macbook M2 ( the dead one ) and I try with both chargers on magsafe and on USB-C
But it doesn't wake up, I used a third party USB-C cable, I can check with the original one if I can recognize

Words to live on from now on. Use an Apple Original cable. 3rd party ones aren’t tested to the same level as Apple ones. I’ve seen 3rd party cables mess up the port in the past. That’s why I always use the Apple USB C cables(this is the important one) and Adapter even if they cost more

 

[StoneJack]

Ur mac is a toast
Yes they are disposable.
Sell for parts buy new one

 

[al404]

I will try tomorrow to ask to a Chinese shop

Do you know where can I sell as parts? On Ebay or does some company buy defective laptop?

Use an Apple Original cable. 3rd party ones aren’t tested to the same level as Apple ones. I’ve seen 3rd party cables mess up the port in the past. That’s why I always use the Apple USB C cables(this is the important one) and Adapter even if they cost more

I can' see a way that 3rd party USB-C cable can damage a laptop I'm not going to buy a way overpriced "Apple" USB-C cable there are plenty of good cables on the market is enough to buy a good quality one

I MAY agree for power supply but also is enough to buy a good one with protection on power fluctuations

 

[racerhomie]

I will try tomorrow to ask to a Chinese shop

Do you know where can I sell as parts? On Ebay or does some company buy defective laptop?



I can' see a way that 3rd party USB-C cable can damage a laptop I'm not going to buy a way overpriced "Apple" USB-C cable there are plenty of good cables on the market is enough to buy a good quality one

I MAY agree for power supply but also is enough to buy a good one with protection on power fluctuations

Apples ones are Much more tested for voltage and other factors than 3rd party ones, no matter what they claim(Apple tested with over 3000 cables during development). The cables will stop working, and not fry your port if something significant happens.
But it’s your money, you will live with the consequences.

Go to a local Mac repair store and see if it can be affordably repaired, or if they want to buy

 

[al404]

Apples ones are Much more tested for voltage and other factors than 3rd party ones, no matter what they claim(Apple tested with over 3000 cables during development). The cables will stop working, and not fry your port if something significant happens.
But it’s your money, you will live with the consequences.

From what you say it seems that only Apple can make USB-C cables, it is just a way to carry people and push them to buy overpriced cables

Go to a local Mac repair store and see if it can be affordably repaired, or if they want to buy

Already done they asked me 60€ for the estimate ( official reseller ) and 90% is 500€ logic board
I will go to Chinese shop and see if they can do something

 

[racerhomie]

From what you say it seems that only Apple can make USB-C cables, it is just a way to carry people and push them to buy overpriced cables


Already done they asked me 60€ for the estimate ( official reseller ) and 90% is 500€ logic board
I will go to Chinese shop and see if they can do something

Apple designed the USB C spec. They obviously know how to make the safest cables. Like I said it’s your money, and your choice.

And yes, get the Mac looked at a 3rd party Mac specialist repair store. There are stores that mess up your board even more if they don’t know what they are doing

 

[al404]

Apple designed the USB C spec. They obviously know how to make the safest cables. Like I said it’s your money, and your choice.

From what you write, it seems that if you don't buy Apple USB-C cables, some kind of godly punishment will befall the unfortunate person.

And yes, get the Mac looked at a 3rd party Mac specialist repair store. There are stores that mess up your board even more if they don’t know what they are doing

At present, I can decide to pay €500/€600 to repair it, which obviously makes no sense, use it as a tray, or take it to a third-party store that can try to repair it.

It seems to me that Apple doesn't care about the environment except for marketing purposes, since these are disposable devices.

I will definitely not invest any more money in an expensive MacBook; I will take whatever I find on sale at the lowest price.

 

[Honza1]

Apple designed the USB C spec. They obviously know how to make the safest cables. Like I said it’s your money, and your choice.

This is very crude simplification of the problem and basically not true.
USB-C is connector. Like USB-A, HDMI, Display Port etc. The specs which are important are for the protocols, which enables devices to figure out what to do and how to use the cable. Power delivery is agreed on by involved devices using protocol, that is what controls everything... In crude simplification - your device has USB-C with some chip in it, you plug in cable with chip in it and that enables these two to figure out what they can do. Then you plug in the other device (e.g. power supply) and same discussion is on the other hand. And then all three need to come up with agreement what all three can do.
Apple contributed to the protocol, but many other companies also. USB-C connectors are today used by everyone, even my coffee grinder. Apple, while early user, is by now minority USB-C user and surely not the only one who can do stuff well. Argumentatively, their cables are crap and disintegrate relatively early and do not contain any info on what they support. So my early USB-C Apple cables fail to support current M4 speeds and there is no marking on them to indicate what they support - just completely white cable - requiring ugly additional labels.

These USB specs are by committee and it is getting stupidly complex. All of those different protocols and speeds (just look up all flavors of USB3/4) make it today impossible to know, what you get as performance when you have two random devices and a cable in hand. Similar to HDMI, but worse since USB cables get switched around all the time...

I have cables with affixed additional labels "high speed, low power", "high power, low speed", and "high speed, high power" (etc.) - all of which I needed to test and evaluate. Oughhhh...

 

[StoneJack]

From what you write, it seems that if you don't buy Apple USB-C cables, some kind of godly punishment will befall the unfortunate person.



At present, I can decide to pay €500/€600 to repair it, which obviously makes no sense, use it as a tray, or take it to a third-party store that can try to repair it.

It seems to me that Apple doesn't care about the environment except for marketing purposes, since these are disposable devices.

I will definitely not invest any more money in an expensive MacBook; I will take whatever I find on sale at the lowest price.

ok how that all ended? btw my Macbook Pro 2016 broke and I am perfectly fine with three Apple notebooks later. So what did u do

 

[racerhomie]

From what you write, it seems that if you don't buy Apple USB-C cables, some kind of godly punishment will befall the unfortunate person.



At present, I can decide to pay €500/€600 to repair it, which obviously makes no sense, use it as a tray, or take it to a third-party store that can try to repair it.

It seems to me that Apple doesn't care about the environment except for marketing purposes, since these are disposable devices.

I will definitely not invest any more money in an expensive MacBook; I will take whatever I find on sale at the lowest price.

Just don’t buy random cables off Amazon. Buy from a reputable maker like Anker or Belkin. And yes, once your $1000 machine’s port fails due to low quality cables you won’t feel this lucky. I have seen this in real life. So have Google’s engineers testing cables from Amazon.

And yes, Macs are disposable devices, just like any other laptop. Their batteries will stop working at some point. Just get it looked at a 3rd party Mac Repair store before deciding. You can choose any garbage device from any manufacturer, it’s your money

 

[JPack]

Use USB-IF certified cables. You don’t need to overspend on Apple cables, but don’t go for cheap non-certified cables. The ones with an LCD definitely are not certified.

Anyway, this issue may not be related to cables. Sometimes the PMIC just fails even with normal use.

 

[racerhomie]

This is very crude simplification of the problem and basically not true.
USB-C is connector. Like USB-A, HDMI, Display Port etc. The specs which are important are for the protocols, which enables devices to figure out what to do and how to use the cable. Power delivery is agreed on by involved devices using protocol, that is what controls everything... In crude simplification - your device has USB-C with some chip in it, you plug in cable with chip in it and that enables these two to figure out what they can do. Then you plug in the other device (e.g. power supply) and same discussion is on the other hand. And then all three need to come up with agreement what all three can do.
Apple contributed to the protocol, but many other companies also. USB-C connectors are today used by everyone, even my coffee grinder. Apple, while early user, is by now minority USB-C user and surely not the only one who can do stuff well. Argumentatively, their cables are crap and disintegrate relatively early and do not contain any info on what they support. So my early USB-C Apple cables fail to support current M4 speeds and there is no marking on them to indicate what they support - just completely white cable - requiring ugly additional labels.

These USB specs are by committee and it is getting stupidly complex. All of those different protocols and speeds (just look up all flavors of USB3/4) make it today impossible to know, what you get as performance when you have two random devices and a cable in hand. Similar to HDMI, but worse since USB cables get switched around all the time...

I have cables with affixed additional labels "high speed, low power", "high power, low speed", and "high speed, high power" (etc.) - all of which I needed to test and evaluate. Oughhhh...

I understand that USB C labels are a huge hassle to figure out. Apples Usb C cables are quite good from my experience. And the newer ones are braided, so they don’t disintegrate.

 

[StoneJack]

I understand that USB C labels are a huge hassle to figure out. Apples Usb C cables are quite good from my experience. And the newer ones are braided, so they don’t disintegrate.

buying 1 good cable for 1000 dollar notebook is a good investment. Those who prefer cheap cables may end with broken machines. Just like a car: put cheap parts in your car and don't be surprised when engine breaks down.