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GigabitEthernet

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I have the M1 13" MacBook Pro.

On it I do development, primarily using Visual Studio Code on TypeScript, also the occasional use of Docker.

I am finding that if I open a few projects in separate windows, have Zoom running and do a bit of Chrome debugging, the system grinds to a halt, to the degree that music/audio starts skipping.

Is this simply a limitation of 8GB of RAM and I need to buy a machine with more, or is there something else going on?
 

Andrea Filippini

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I have the M1 13" MacBook Pro.

On it I do development, primarily using Visual Studio Code on TypeScript, also the occasional use of Docker.

I am finding that if I open a few projects in separate windows, have Zoom running and do a bit of Chrome debugging, the system grinds to a halt, to the degree that music/audio starts skipping.

Is this simply a limitation of 8GB of RAM and I need to buy a machine with more, or is there something else going on?
8 GB is a bottleneck nowadays. Can you post the screenshot of your memory pressure from activity monitor during these tasks?
 

oz_rkie

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I have the M1 13" MacBook Pro.

On it I do development, primarily using Visual Studio Code on TypeScript, also the occasional use of Docker.

I am finding that if I open a few projects in separate windows, have Zoom running and do a bit of Chrome debugging, the system grinds to a halt, to the degree that music/audio starts skipping.

Is this simply a limitation of 8GB of RAM and I need to buy a machine with more, or is there something else going on?

I have 2 m1 macbook airs. One is an 8gb version and another 16gb version. My workflow is also mainly vscode, docker, slack, few terminal windows and a bunch of safari tabs. The 8gb version definitely struggles. Desktop can become less responsive, with the rainbow wheel cursor and stuff becomes generally unusable while the 16gb version does not suffer from any issues with the same workflows. For development, I would definitely suggest going 16gb as a minimum.
 
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alien3dx

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I have the M1 13" MacBook Pro.

On it I do development, primarily using Visual Studio Code on TypeScript, also the occasional use of Docker.

I am finding that if I open a few projects in separate windows, have Zoom running and do a bit of Chrome debugging, the system grinds to a halt, to the degree that music/audio starts skipping.

Is this simply a limitation of 8GB of RAM and I need to buy a machine with more, or is there something else going on?
find a dumb intel pc for server, pushing m1 like intel nono.. ** using intel instead m1
 

UBS28

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I have the M1 13" MacBook Pro.

On it I do development, primarily using Visual Studio Code on TypeScript, also the occasional use of Docker.

I am finding that if I open a few projects in separate windows, have Zoom running and do a bit of Chrome debugging, the system grinds to a halt, to the degree that music/audio starts skipping.

Is this simply a limitation of 8GB of RAM and I need to buy a machine with more, or is there something else going on?

According to MacRumors, 8GB of RAM is all you need. So there must be something else going on.
 

Technerd108

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For the MBP 13" 16gb ram should be standard. It really isn't a "Pro" machine with 8gb ram. Ram is Ram and Apple Silicon is not Magic. I would say since the iGPU shares RAM that 8gb would only suffice for an air machine and someone who only does nominal processing tasks like web browsing, email, online games, word processing, etc.

I would never buy am M1 Mac or any Mac for that matter with only 8gb Ram unless it is just for the simple tasks above and for a more portable long battery lasting device when traveling. If I need to work with my Mac 16gb is entry level RAM and the base I would get and 32gb would be the sweet spot. Just my 2 cents.
 

GigabitEthernet

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8 GB is a bottleneck nowadays. Can you post the screenshot of your memory pressure from activity monitor during these tasks?

Screenshot 2022-03-04 at 18.04.56.png

If I connect a secondary monitor - which I do sometimes - music will start skipping now but already the system is becoming unresponsive.
 
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Technerd108

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If I were you I would sell your MBP 13" and get a new air with M2 and 16gb ram. That would probably be enough for you or the new 13" MBP with M2 and 16gb ram. You should be able to get a good price now for your MBP 13" before the new model is released and it might not cost too much out of pocket and all of your memory pressure would be in the green.
 

BigMcGuire

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I've been doing VS development with Windows on Parallels on Mac for awhile now. 16GB has been a minimum (at least for me personally) for quite some time (years). Yeah, 16GB on the M1 felt free'er than the 16GB Intel MBP but there's no way I'd do virtual machine stuff and development on anything less than 16GB. My work got me a 32GB Intel MBP 13' and it has been amazing.
 

pi=e=3

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Jun 18, 2021
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With secondary monitor connected (this is all that has changed between the above screenshot and now):

View attachment 1967863

Well theres yer problem!

Orange is "uh oh" territory. Red is "We're gonna need a bigger boat" territory.

8GB machines exist for casual users/students, who despite thinking they need a CRAY super computer, could get by with a Ti-84, a 3 ring binder and a pencil.
 

alien3dx

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According to MacRumors, 8GB of RAM is all you need. So there must be something else going on.
i bought the m1 air for development. but some people don't "delegate" .One everything one man show , that's the main problem.
 

AlixSPQR

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I suppose that if you need to have four tabs of Amazon open, and three tabs of YouTube as well, with a lot of other tabs also running, a Virtual Machine Service, and other stuff, then you will surely run out of RAM eventually. Perhaps you need all of that if you are a pro on a pro machine. 8 GB is otherwise enough for most people.
 

GigabitEthernet

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I suppose that if you need to have four tabs of Amazon open, and three tabs of YouTube as well, with a lot of other tabs also running, a Virtual Machine Service, and other stuff, then you will surely run out of RAM eventually. Perhaps you need all of that if you are a pro on a pro machine. 8 GB is otherwise enough for most people.

I am a professional developer, so this is how I use the machine.
 

lcubed

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where's the virtual machine that was in the earlier activity snapshots?
that was sucking up a huge chunk of memory
 
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