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ian87w

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Well, here it is.

When I watched this, I was no longer surprised with the M1 results. But it's more of how embarrassing the intel Macbook Pro was. I mean its performance doesn't justify its Pro moniker imo. Seems like Apple overestimated intel's roadmap that the chassis design was too constricting for the intel chip.
 
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sfwalter

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I can't image what power the iMac will. Maybe all iMacs will be called iMac Pro since they will be quite a leap over the existing iMacs.
 

ian87w

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I can't image what power the iMac will. Maybe all iMacs will be called iMac Pro since they will be quite a leap over the existing iMacs.
Actually imo the intel desktops might be a bit more competitive as they have less thermal restrictions. Plus they have the number of cores and GPU as well. Well, whatever M chip Apple has will surely surpass them, but the gap probably won't be as huge since there's less thermal restrictions. But intel is losing the power draw, definitely. With M chips, we might see an Apple desktop having laptop-size-like power supply for the lower end since they sip so much less power.
 
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ian87w

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Wasn't that one of the reason for Apple to push this change?
Of course. It's just embarrassing seeing how the intel Macbook Pro performs.

It is curious to see how the same intel chip on less thermally restricted chassis of some windows laptops.
 

ght56

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TBH, I was thinking that AS would be a success simply if it matched or slightly edged out the Intel CPUs because it would be so much more power efficient and generate so much less heat. I never imagined we would see such vast performance advances.

I have to wonder how the hell Intel fell so far behind...and if heads are rolling at Intel HQ.
 
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Fomalhaut

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It's embarrassing how much endless hand wringing there is here about the word "pro."
I agree! “Pro” is just a marketing term which means slightly better than the base model. It has nothing to do with whether the machine is used for professional purposes or not. The whole argument about what kind of computer has “professional capabilities” is fallacious; if you are using your computer for work, then you are using it professionally and the kind of work you do will determine the kind of computer that you need.

There are many highly regarded professions do not require high performance computers, e.g. doctors, lawyers, writers, accountants, and any other any number of jobs that just require a machine for communication and information access. Even technical jobs don’t always require high spec machines. For example, I was able to manage the cloud infrastructure of several large enterprises with nothing more than an 8 GB MacBook Pro, but I could’ve done it with a Chrome Book or a relatively low spec Windows machine. This is professional work which earns me a good salary. Similarly, when I want to edit my travel videos, for which I am not paid, I need a much more powerful machine. This is not professional work, yet I need the so called “pro machine” to do it, or at least I used to before the Apple Silicon Macs.

In short, you need a machine that is suitable for the task in hand, whether it earns money or not. Perhaps Apple should have just called these machines ”Plus” instead of ”Pro”
 

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I agree! “Pro” is just a marketing term which means slightly better than the base model. It has nothing to do with whether the machine is used for professional purposes or not. The whole argument about what kind of computer has “professional capabilities” is fallacious; if you are using your computer for work, then you are using it professionally and the kind of work you do will determine the kind of computer that you need.

There are many highly regarded professions do not require high performance computers, e.g. doctors, lawyers, writers, accountants, and any other any number of jobs that just require a machine for communication and information access. Even technical jobs don’t always require high spec machines. For example, I was able to manage the cloud infrastructure of several large enterprises with nothing more than an 8 GB MacBook Pro, but I could’ve done it with a Chrome Book or a relatively low spec Windows machine. This is professional work which earns me a good salary. Similarly, when I want to edit my travel videos, for which I am not paid, I need a much more powerful machine. This is not professional work, yet I need the so called “pro machine” to do it, or at least I used to before the Apple Silicon Macs.

In short, you need a machine that is suitable for the task in hand, whether it earns money or not. Perhaps Apple should have just called these machines ”Plus” instead of ”Pro”
Agreed. And I would add that Apple needs to start being more judicious about using the ‘pro’ label on their products, else it just devalues the use of it.

For example - the ‘Mac Pro’ is undoubtedly ‘pro’ but are the ‘AirPods Pro’ worthy of the name?

I don’t work in this field, but to the best of my knowledge, I don’t think that anyone who is working in sound mixing (in the studio, or at a live event) would use the AirPods Pro for their job.

For such a classy company, Apple’s product names have often been a little cringeworthy so here’s hoping that they can use the M1 era to rein back on that.
 
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