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codycartoon

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Sep 13, 2002
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I rarely post here when it comes to these sorts of things, I am more of a lurker, but I can not believe the negative response the MacBook Pro is getting. Frankly, I think it is pathetic.

Apple creates something for you that is up to 4 times as fast as the previous line, and you are whining? What the hell? When has there ever been such a jump in processing power without changing the price? In all of Apple history? This is incredible, and as far as I'm concerned a revolutionary day for Apple.

I am glad they did not change the case. I am sure they tried extensively until they realized that what they already had was timeless, elegant, and beautiful. Instead they change small things that are really issues like the powercord. Who cares about SD? honestly, I am a hardcore video editor and I find it unnecessary. FW 800, USB 2 is plenty fast, not to mention they have internal SAT hard drives now.

Some people have compared it to Acer's specs which I think makes sense considering apple is using the same chip now. But seriously, has anyone ever used an Acer laptop? Have you been to their website? ( http://us.acer.com/ ) Have you seen what their computers look like? Would you like to use that for the next four years? Seriously. If you are complaining about specs on the mac, why the hell should you start on the day they make a huge leap in power? That does not make any sense.

The MacBook Pro is incredible, elegant, and powerful.

As a student, I will start saving for one ASAP.

-cody
 

doucy2

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Jul 7, 2005
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lol all this crap about this damn book and no one even owns one yet
people should post once that have expierenced it and then post thier view

the 4x fast is only for a macbook pro BTW and it is just another selling point
at $2500 its frankly not worth it
 

kretzy

macrumors 604
Sep 11, 2004
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Canberra, Australia
I didn't rate it negatively, but I can understand why people would. If people find one or two things that they don't like, they'll rate it in that way rather than looking at the overall picture.
 

macOSX-tastic

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Jan 9, 2005
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At the Airport. UK
people at apple have worked really hard on this to achieve in 6 months what was previously projected for a year. they have done incredibly well. this macbook Pro is going to be faster than the current line.....that will justify the price point for some people. for others, it will be frontrow, or other numerous features...we are all different.

it's not healthy to complain about something that people have worked so hard on. focus on the good points.....they are after all still offering the PPC line.

i for one, will not be upgrading for a while.....software was the main thing dfor me this time round. cheer up people, it was a good update, and we were very lucky to get what we did. things can only get better:D

S
 

MacTruck

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macOSX-tastic said:
people at apple have worked really hard on this to achieve in 6 months what was previously projected for a year. they have done incredibly well. this macbook Pro is going to be faster than the current line.....that will justify the price point for some people. for others, it will be frontrow, or other numerous features...we are all different.

it's not healthy to complain about something that people have worked so hard on. focus on the good points.....they are after all still offering the PPC line.

i for one, will not be upgrading for a while.....software was the main thing dfor me this time round. cheer up people, it was a good update, and we were very lucky to get what we did. things can only get better:D

S


Lets not shed a tear because they worked hard on it, they are charging money for it. Now if they gave it to me for free, a tear I would shed. Besides every company that produces anything works hard on it. Thats business.
 

macOSX-tastic

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Jan 9, 2005
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MacTruck said:
Lets not shed a tear because they worked hard on it, they are charging money for it. Now if they gave it to me for free, a tear I would shed. Besides every company that produces anything works hard on it. Thats business.

im not asking people to "shed a tear", i know people will always be unhappy, no matter what apple or any other company brings out, but they are still offering the original PPC counterparts.....so why complain? apple is also offering a step forward....we were lucky to get 2 intel macs today. Businesses are out to make profit....that's number 1. whether or not the company pours money into its manufacturing processes is a completely different matter. we are lucky to have a company (apple) that sees things differently. and that is, apparently, their point.

S
 

Phat_Pat

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May 8, 2004
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the fact of the matter is that this thing is EXTREMELY fast


once you realize this you won't care about what it looks like cause you'll only be looking at the screen
 

Seasought

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I'm happy for those who will be out there picking up these new Macbooks. I am SLIGHTLY regretful for buying my current PPC Powerbook, I know it will pass...I hope. :D

Regardless, more power is always a good thing. Here's to the future. *cheers*
 

LGRW3919

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Mar 6, 2005
142
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cupertino (no joke)
MacTruck said:
Lets not shed a tear because they worked hard on it, they are charging money for it. Now if they gave it to me for free, a tear I would shed. Besides every company that produces anything works hard on it. Thats business.

paying money for anything you buy is purely inevitable. thats also business. giving away things for free, especially when they normally cost $2000+ is anti-business.
 

MacTruck

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LGRW3919 said:
paying money for anything you buy is purely inevitable. thats also business. giving away things for free, especially when they normally cost $2000+ is anti-business.


Anti-business?

I am going to make a new mac. It will have the following:


- dual 2ghz Yohahs
- Removable hard drive and superdrive
- dual dvi ports
- carbon fiber case in many colors.
- removable graphics card
- removable cpu for upgrading
- 4 ram slots
- 1 inch thick
- Dock connnector
- external power button that can't be accidently turned on.
- fingerprint reader
- dual button trackpad
- battery on back like thinkpad so I can use extended battery
- lighted keyboard in different colors
- external sata port
- 3 yr standard warranty


NOBODY will bad mouth it because thats what everyone wants. Why can't they make this notebook. Cost too much? I would pay way more for this system so no problem.
 

BENJMNS

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Dec 28, 2005
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MacTruck said:
Lets not shed a tear because they worked hard on it, they are charging money for it. Now if they gave it to me for free, a tear I would shed. Besides every company that produces anything works hard on it. Thats business.

true dat

it's amazing to me that they think apple is some sort of "for the greater good" company. like we need to cheer them on.

people, it's a corporation. it's FOR profit. they're not doing us any favors. they don't deserve anything more than our $$s and we get their product and solutions in return.

i'm underwhelmed with the "new" macbook. it's merely an evolution to the G4. 4x faster? doing what? 100M dash? Will it help me run faster? make me smarter? the basic technology is still the same. it's not a leap. it's kinda... ok cool. we expected it and apple delivered, but certainly not a jaw dropping surprise.

it's new and new is attractive in the technology industry. it's the latest and greatest, but that's all relative.

my guess is this is an interim book with a major refresh, total redesign due sometime this summer. it's a place holder the current macbook pro. the chassis design has been around for a long time.

it's a good indicator of the sign of things to come. PC world as well. it's a rat race. enjoy. i'm enjoying my G4. to the new macbook pro people. all the more power to ya!
 

MacTruck

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BENJMNS said:
true dat

it's amazing to me that they think apple is some sort of "for the greater good" company. like we need to cheer them on.

people, it's a corporation. it's FOR profit. they're not doing us any favors. they don't deserve anything more than our $$s and we get their product and solutions in return.

i'm underwhelmed with the "new" macbook. it's merely an evolution to the G4. 4x faster? doing what? 100M dash? Will it help me run faster? make me smarter? the basic technology is still the same. it's not a leap. it's kinda... ok cool. we expected it and apple delivered, but certainly not a jaw dropping surprise.

it's new and new is attractive in the technology industry. it's the latest and greatest, but that's all relative.

my guess is this is an interim book with a major refresh, total redesign due sometime this summer. it's a place holder the current macbook pro. the chassis design has been around for a long time.

it's a good indicator of the sign of things to come. PC world as well. it's a rat race. enjoy. i'm enjoying my G4. to the new macbook pro people. all the more power to ya!


Here is a poster with some sense.
 

FadeToBlack

macrumors 68000
Apr 27, 2005
1,843
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Accoville, WV
MacTruck said:
Anti-business?

I am going to make a new mac. It will have the following:


- dual 2ghz Yohahs
- Removable hard drive and superdrive
- dual dvi ports
- carbon fiber case in many colors.
- removable graphics card
- removable cpu for upgrading
- 4 ram slots
- 1 inch thick
- Dock connnector
- external power button that can't be accidently turned on.
- fingerprint reader
- dual button trackpad
- battery on back like thinkpad so I can use extended battery
- lighted keyboard in different colors
- external sata port
- 3 yr standard warranty


NOBODY will bad mouth it because thats what everyone wants. Why can't they make this notebook. Cost too much? I would pay way more for this system so no problem.

The thing is, not everyone wants that. Who wants to pay extra for features that you're not gonna use?

I, for one, am REALLY impressed with the MacBook Pro and I don't see why everyone has to bad mouth everything that Apple does. I can understand that everyone has their own opinion about things, but jeez. I'd hate to see what would have happened had they not have released the MacBook Pro today. I am very excited about this transition and I think it's off to an amazing start.
 

3dit3r

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Nov 18, 2005
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BENJMNS said:
true dat

it's amazing to me that they think apple is some sort of "for the greater good" company. like we need to cheer them on.

people, it's a corporation. it's FOR profit. they're not doing us any favors. they don't deserve anything more than our $$s and we get their product and solutions in return.

i'm underwhelmed with the "new" macbook. it's merely an evolution to the G4. 4x faster? doing what? 100M dash? Will it help me run faster? make me smarter? the basic technology is still the same. it's not a leap. it's kinda... ok cool. we expected it and apple delivered, but certainly not a jaw dropping surprise.

it's new and new is attractive in the technology industry. it's the latest and greatest, but that's all relative.

my guess is this is an interim book with a major refresh, total redesign due sometime this summer. it's a place holder the current macbook pro. the chassis design has been around for a long time.

it's a good indicator of the sign of things to come. PC world as well. it's a rat race. enjoy. i'm enjoying my G4. to the new macbook pro people. all the more power to ya!

It's all marketing. Jobs is a master of marketing.

The technology may be the same, but the machine is definitely a leap. Native apps fly on the machine, and from what I could tell, apps running under Rosetta were just as fast. The main criticism I have is the loss of a firewire port. It makes it impossible to edit unless I get a hub...
 

Morn

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Oct 26, 2005
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- dual dvi ports
- carbon fiber case in many colors.
- removable graphics card
- removable cpu for upgrading
- 4 ram slots
- 1 inch thick

All that in 1 inch? :p Ever think the lack of these features is why it's 1 inch?
Why are people complaining, clearly this is the fastest and best apple laptop ever so far. And I hope the x86, industrial standard that it is, will resolve some of apple's quality control problems, as the engineers should have an easier time, going to an architecture where there is so many examples, experts, help and documention around for their engineers to use. The scanline issue and g3 ibook logic board issue are not excusable.
 

dswoodley

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Jul 18, 2002
538
1
I can see why people are dissappointed because in some ways the MBP is a degrade, not an upgrade. Why was the superdrive downgraded? No modem (yes some people actually need it)? Firewire 400 (kind of cripples the FW 800 devices many of us use)? 5400 RPM drive (please)?

It was a victory for speed and displays and camera, but not much else.
 

MacTruck

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Jan 27, 2005
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Morn said:
All that in 1 inch? :p Ever think the lack of these features is why it's 1 inch?
Why are people complaining, clearly this is the fastest and best apple laptop ever so far. And I hope the x86, industrial standard that it is, will resolve some of apple's quality control problems, as the engineers should have an easier time, going to an architecture where there is so many examples, experts, help and documention around for their engineers to use. The scanline issue and g3 ibook logic board issue are not excusable.


Aren't all new apple products faster than their predecessors? Yep. Doesn't mean they are the fastest computers available.

And yes, I would make all those options into a 1" thick laptop. :D
 

codycartoon

macrumors regular
Original poster
Sep 13, 2002
164
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MacTruck said:
Aren't all new apple products faster than their predecessors? Yep. Doesn't mean they are the fastest computers available.

can you please find me an example of when apple released a computer that is quadruple the speed of its predecessor and available for the same price?

hell, even twice the speed?

-cody
 

codycartoon

macrumors regular
Original poster
Sep 13, 2002
164
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BENJMNS said:
true dat

it's amazing to me that they think apple is some sort of "for the greater good" company. like we need to cheer them on.

people, it's a corporation. it's FOR profit. they're not doing us any favors. they don't deserve anything more than our $$s and we get their product and solutions in return.

i'm underwhelmed with the "new" macbook. it's merely an evolution to the G4. 4x faster? doing what? 100M dash? Will it help me run faster? make me smarter? the basic technology is still the same. it's not a leap. it's kinda... ok cool. we expected it and apple delivered, but certainly not a jaw dropping surprise.

As an Apple Stock holder I am clearly aware that apple is a "for profit" company. With that in mind people still feel the need to cheer them on as Apple is still, in many ways, seen as the smarter but less dominating underdog. Can you explain to me how this website is not a testament to that? How many windows sites/communities can you find that have a similar sort of passion? Especially when taking in to account that apple's market share is still in the single digits.

your prediction is unlikely. There is no way that they would market a new line of any product only to have it's form factor change a few months from now.

-cody
 

wasimyaqoob

macrumors 6502a
Dec 23, 2005
577
1
London, England.
Look right the are comparing the top end model with the basic Powerbook, thats how it comes upto 4x faster - And if Intel are so good, why are they stilll selling PowerBook G4's and why havent they created a PowerMac with an Intel Chip, I know why because Intel is awful.

Ok... on the plus side the built in iSight Camera is awesome and the Apple IR Remote Sensor is a good feature as well, but I dont know why everyone is getting so hyped up about Intel.
 

PeterKG

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May 2, 2003
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I frankly give zero credit to Apple. I bought the latest revision PB, and received a crap display, that they refuse to agknowledge or repair. Then just three months later they intro this new version, leaving us screwed. Apple has turned into nothing more than an iPod store now. Go into any Apple store, and that is what you see. It's pathetic. They have no regard for their customers any longer.
 

wasimyaqoob

macrumors 6502a
Dec 23, 2005
577
1
London, England.
PeterKG i TOTALLY level with you 100%, i only just purchased my PowerBook 2 weeks ago but anyway if i were to still make a decision i would rather have the PowerBook over the MacBook - And yes, i also agree with you saying that all Apple care about now are profits. Its the board of directors, they are only considered about making profit, but who knows what Steve will do... maybe his past actions could be used again.
 

faintember

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Jun 6, 2005
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the ruins of the Cherokee nation
PeterKG said:
They have no regard for their customers any longer.
I have to disagree. If Apple didnt care about their customers, Steve's "One more thing" would have been a discussion concerning why Apple is going to wait another 2 years for a G5 Powerbook, oh, and it will still run hot and have no battery life.

I know people do not like change, but either a) get over it or b) continue to use your current PPC based Mac until it dies. I think the intel transition is a step in the right direction, but i am not buying until we get the dual core 64bit processor in the Macbook Pro rev b. Honestly the only thing that slightly irritates me about the Macbook is that the physical design is more or less the same as the current line and that Steve forgot to send me one for free.;)
 
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