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mrzackzadek

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Jun 24, 2020
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Does anybody with the current beta installed have any insight into whether any of these work/are currently broken:

-Logic Pro X
-Pro Tools 2020
-Ableton Live 10 Suite
-Reason 11
-Finale 26

-Universal Audio Apollo Software Console
-Antares Auto Tune
-XLN Addictive Drums
-XLN Addictive Keys
-Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate 12
-Spectrasonics Omnisphere/Keyscape



If anyone knows how to make this post a wiki, would love for it to keep evolving!
 

glindon

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Jun 9, 2014
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Phoenix
Haven't done much testing but logic works and so do all my waves and east west plugins. Roli works fine. Apogee Ensemble works fine.
 

LuisN

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Mar 30, 2013
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Torres Vedras, Portugal
Does anybody with the current beta installed have any insight into whether any of these work/are currently broken:

-Logic Pro X
-Pro Tools 2020
-Ableton Live 10 Suite
-Reason 11
-Finale 26

-Universal Audio Apollo Software Console
-Antares Auto Tune
-XLN Addictive Drums
-XLN Addictive Keys
-Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate 12
-Spectrasonics Omnisphere/Keyscape



If anyone knows how to make this post a wiki, would love for it to keep evolving!
Why don't you just try it in an external drive and test? It's easier. It won't break your current system
 

fisherking

macrumors G4
Jul 16, 2010
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one friend is running logic X and it's working for him (& his 3rd-party plugins all validated). and i've seen a few forum posts online with ppl reporting logic works (that's all i use; don't know about PT etc).

am waiting for the public beta, and will dive in... and report back when. but, as with any new mac OS, some plugins may need to be updated; you can always check with the developers of the plugins you use
 

DenisDeNice

macrumors newbie
Jun 29, 2020
1
1
My tests on Big Sur - Beta 1

Works Flawlessly:
- Logic Pro X

Seems to work:
- Arturia's Pigment
- Roli

Unusable:
- Ableton Live 10 Suite (bugs, color wheel of death, etc.). Confirmed by many other people on Reddit.
 
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Naalsi

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Sep 21, 2017
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Logic Pro works flawlessly for me as well as plugins from Klanghelm, Auburn Sounds, u-He, Valhalla, Kontakt 6.

MuseScore3 also works flawlessly.
 

ErikGrim

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Jun 20, 2003
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There’s quite a few third party plugins that will crash Logic X when opened, even if they have been validated. Fortunately no critical ones for me, but it’s something to keep in mind.
 
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Monotremata

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Apr 11, 2019
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Dont suppose anyone here is running a MOTU interface yet?? Just read about the whole move from extensions to frameworks and whatnot, think that means both my MOTU 828x and my MPC Live won't work until they get driver updates.. No testing for me until then. :(
 

fisherking

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There’s quite a few third party plugins that will crash Logic X when opened, even if they have been validated. Fortunately no critical ones for me, but it’s something to keep in mind.

you're experiencing this? or you read this somewhere (just curious)....
 

Matthias Stockert

macrumors newbie
Jul 12, 2020
1
1
MOTU 8A Thunderbolt interface is working fine.
Most of my audio plugins in Logic Pro X work fine:
Acustica Audio (several Acqua plugins and N4)
Waves (several V10 and V11 plugins and even my V9 plugins are still working)
IK Multimedia T-Racks 5 (but the standalone applications do not work)
East West Play (Symphonic Orchestra)
Toontrack Superior Drummer 2

What does NOT work properly:
XLN Addictive Keys: GUI is completely missing, it just stays black. Sound is working.
iZotope (several plugins): Registration on my new MacBook Pro fails, but demo mode is working.
 
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Monotremata

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Apr 11, 2019
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Fontana, CA
MOTU 8A Thunderbolt interface is working fine.

Sweeeeeeeet. Thats my main concern at the moment hehe. The 8A uses their newer 'Pro Audio' driver or whatever its called, but that's a good indicator that the older TB/USB/FW driver is still good to go for my 828x!! That probably means my old 828mk2 is still going to work too, but its doing duty as an 8 channel AD converter nowadays hehe. Im all hardware based for the most part until I record a song and need to mix in Logic, and it sounds like a lot of my plugins are ready too!

This happened last time I got a "new" Mac Pro back in 2016 hah. I got it in February at tax time and was so excited I finally got to move from Lion to El Capitan and see the newer OS's I missed out on, and I got to run it for a whole six months before Sierra came out. My new Mac mini is gonna end up the same, Ill get to spend a few months in Catalina, then on to the new one already..
 

xgman

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Many older random plugins are problematic or don't work. yeah, Live 10 crashes. Unsurprisingly, it's just way too early to expect a good audio production experience on BS. It is going to take a good deal of app updating to get this fully usable especially for those of us that like to tinker. I'll wait till a bit after release and then see how the dev updates go.
 

Monotremata

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Apr 11, 2019
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Fontana, CA
I can confirm that my both my MOTU 16A and 828mk3 are working via USB, as is the CueMix software.

I should be good to go then! Mine uses the same driver the mk3 does! I actually tried to install it last week, but after downloading and running the installer it told me it couldn't be installed for some reason. Then again, I grabbed it from the link someone posted here to the direct installer. Maybe I should try it the official way hehe.


EDIT: Yep, working fine so far, downloaded it properly through the Beta app and ran it. Still going through the App folder opening stuff to make sure, but Logic Pro was as good as ever, all my plugins validated and seem to be working. Waves, Plugin Alliance, Soundtoys, Eventide, PSP, Absynth 5, etc. Shockingly even my MPC's driver and plugin work, I was still able to put it in controller mode, mount the disk on the desktop and back it up with CCC just now. MOTU 828x showed up quick as usual, blasted out some Adam and the Ants first thing, then ran through a recent Logic project. All is well so far, we'll see how this goes. So far the only things Ive ran into that dont work are Audiofinder, and Little Snitch. I knew Little Snitch wouldn't work yet so I signed up for the preview just now.

Ive read about the T2 firmware update, was there any notification when this step ran or was it one of the many boot screen/progress bars I saw while installing?
 
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fisherking

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i had to go back to catalina on my work mac; on the public beta, nine of my essential plugins don't even show in logic (and the developers say they will need to fix them); this includes zebra2, hive2, spire, icarus2, dune3, nuance). all my other plugins (fabfliter, izotope, waves, etc) were fine.

i tried all sorts of tricks (with the installs, with permissions, etc), and nothing. so it goes. will wait for those developers to give a green light.
 

Monotremata

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Apr 11, 2019
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Fontana, CA
So far I found all my D16 plugins, and Exponential/Izotope Excalibur and R4 dont show up in Logic at all. Somehow Exponential's PhoenixVerb, R4s 'lite' brother, does though. I think I have a Valhalla freebie that doesn't either the SuperModulator thing. Not a biggie right now, nothing I use remotely regularly at all.
 
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fisherking

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Jul 16, 2010
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So far I found all my D16 plugins, and Exponential/Izotope Excalibur and R4 dont show up in Logic at all. Somehow Exponential's PhoenixVerb, R4s 'lite' brother, does though. I think I have a Valhalla freebie that doesn't either the SuperModulator thing. Not a biggie right now, nothing I use remotely regularly at all.

interesting; all 5 of my valhalla plugins did show up. but def a thing the developers will have to fix, to adapt to big sur (&, in my case, logic)...
 

Monotremata

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Apr 11, 2019
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Fontana, CA
Yeah I thought it was odd that PhoenixVerb shows up but neither Excalibur or R4 does. R4 is basically a bigger version of PhoenixVerb too. The D16 stuff it looks like hasn't been updated in years now. Hopefully they get it working, I dig Antresol and Godfazer and I haven't even gotten to use Lush 101 on anything since I bought it yet.
 

iamprabhuantony

macrumors newbie
Jun 17, 2018
9
6
My tests on Big Sur - Beta 1

Works Flawlessly:
- Logic Pro X

Seems to work:
- Arturia's Pigment
- Roli

Unusable:
- Ableton Live 10 Suite (bugs, color wheel of death, etc.). Confirmed by many other people on Reddit.
signup for ableton beta and It works in BigSur beta 5

Here is the link for Signing up

 

Miscellaneous

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Aug 30, 2014
167
19
London, UK
Hey Peeps!

A couple of weeks ago I did a clean installation of macOS Big Sur PB1 on an external USB 3.0 Samsung T1 SSD connected to my Mac Pro (Late 2013).

I found macOS Big Sur to be a nice redesign to macOS overall but it would definitely take a little bit of adjustment and getting used to.

I just wanted to add to this thread as I managed to test out Reason 11 Intro and a good handful of Rack Extensions and all was working well and as expected. I also installed Logic Pro X and that was working well too even alongside the Reason Rack Plugin.

Since then, I've actually left the Apple macOS Public Beta Programme but I'm totally looking forward for macOS Big Sur to be officially released. For now, I'm still on macOS Mojave on my Mac Pro.

Peace!
 

Monotremata

macrumors 6502
Apr 11, 2019
369
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Fontana, CA
Any of you folks running Logic notice the colors on it have changed or is just me?? I swear Logic all of a sudden looks like it went into Light mode or something. Last night when I fired it up even the misses noticed it and asked if I had changed the colors. Last week after installing some new plugins, a couple of them wouldn't validate and the window that popped up telling me I had incompatible AUs was white as well. Think it was after beta 6 when it changed. Who knows maybe its my monitor too.

Had a scare after beta 8, my MOTU 828X stopped working all of a sudden too. I could see it in System Profiler, the kext was loading and everything, but it would never show up as an audio interface. Was thinking the beta broke their driver, but last night I figured out, for some reason now, the MOTU will not show up if its hooked up to the USB hub its been plugged into the entire time Ive owned it. No clue why it doesn't work there now, it did last week, but I have to have it plugged directly into the USB A ports on my Mac mini now and it works great again.
 
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