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MacOS 12/13/14 - Carbon Copy Cloner 6 - Users Thread
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CCC 6.02 has not been thoroughly qualified against Monterey. More to the point, Monterey hasn't been thoroughly qualified.
Yes this is not the thread to argue about Big Safari support. see https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/big-sur-carbon-copy-cloner-users-thread.2282707/
The APFS replication can only occur if the drive volume you are copying to is erased to a APFS single volume. Then you need to allow CCC assistant to be able to erase that HDD or SDD. It doesn't work for M1 based Macs in Monterey yet (bootable).
OK - I figured out what I was doing wrong, and corrected my mistake
And, I got both my Monterey and Big Sur clones done. The hours I wasted were a learning experience.Thanks Again!!!!!!!
Lou
Was that just creating a new task, since the old task would be unusable if starting over? Also the question that Killerbob poised, did a CCC w/Monterey work ok with your intel Mac?
Did a fresh CCC APFS replication backup of MacOS 12 beta 3 using M1 24" iMac, but it ended up not recognized as bootable.
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Was that just creating a new task, since the old task would be unusable if starting over? Also the question that Killerbob poised, did a CCC w/Monterey work ok with your intel Mac?
No - Not to appear too stupid
but, I neglected to click on (select) "Allow CCC to erase ...." when I selected "Legacy Bootable Backup Assistant". Like I said - DUMB 👎Yes, I made both bootable clones (Big Sur & Monterey) in Monterey.
Lou
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The beta 3 did make the APFS clone of M1 volume show up under Options so that I could try to boot a USB3 connected HDD. The system asked for my password towards the end of booting. As CCC posted awhile back its almost boots but then encounters a system panic and then attempts the same again. The Panic details are being sent to Apple with reference to CCC 6.0.2. CCC awhile back discussed this. Beta 2 was more messed up, it didn't even boot fully, compared to beta 3.
This has nothing to do with intel Macs running Monterey which are bootable with CCC and APFS replication.
The clone that doesn't yet boot on my 24" iMac still is perfect usable for migration assistance.
I have not tested a TB3 connected SSD versus USB3 connected HDD. So if someone has the time they can investigate that.
This has nothing to do with intel Macs running Monterey which are bootable with CCC and APFS replication.
The clone that doesn't yet boot on my 24" iMac still is perfect usable for migration assistance.
I have not tested a TB3 connected SSD versus USB3 connected HDD. So if someone has the time they can investigate that.
Carbon Copy Cloner 6.0.3-b1 available if you have beta downloads enabled.
- Changed
Resolved a case where CCC was stripping the destination volume's custom icon in a folder-to-volume task configuration. - Changed
The search field in the Task History window Audit tab now yields results that match folder names as well as file names. in the sidebar for a task or group. When the "group completed" icon is dismissed, that state is now recalled across launches of CCC. - Fixed
Resolved a condition in which the "Maintain a record of transactions" checkbox became practically uncheck-able in CCC 6.0.2. - New
Added a new "Last Successful Run" token for the email notification template. - Fixed
Improved the handling of cases where a source NAS presents a symlink as an ordinary file. Fixed an accounting issue that led to unusually high "data copied" values in those cases. - New
Added a Start button to the "Upcoming Group and Task Events" view for task groups. - Changed
Updated how APFS volume disk usage is calculated on macOS Monterey. - Fixed
Fixed an issue in which CCC was unable to replace a folder on the destination with a symbolic link (i.e. because a folder on the source had been replaced by a symbolic link). This issue only affected macOS Catalina users. - Changed
Eliminated some spurious "updated attributes" transactions that were getting created when backing up to a NAS volume. - Changed
Resolved a conflict between the "Remove excluded items" setting and custom protection rules. Custom protection rules now have precedence over the "Remove excluded items" setting.
beta 4 Monterey introduced some new authorization permission changes, such trying to boot from a CCC clone startup disc in preferences is buggy. Do that from recovery mode more options is safer. Also some people observed beta 4 requesting authorization for Rosetta before it’s used with a Intel application.
^^^^Not all startup disks showing in "Startup Disk" is not new to Beta 4, it's been happening for some time, including Big Sur. I just checked my system, and all five were shown. The remedy is to restart and hold the "option key" - all disks will appear in "Startup Manager".
Lou
Lou
I had no issues selecting startup disk in Monterey beta 4, after you selected the disc it now challenged you to authorize the account to use for boot up in start up preferences.
Then what's different is it went through the boot cycle and got to the half way progress point of the security accepting the external drive it halted or crashed and rebooted with that occurring indefinitely.
If you instead boot from recovery mode elect which disk to boot from it didn't fail in the same manner. From earlier beta 3 post: "The system asked for my password towards the end of booting."
I thought things might be different with the beta 4 change below, never easy it seems. Bugs!
Yes when this bugged boot was going on, I could not interrupt its loop, could not get into recovery mode until I forced off with power and for good measure unplugged the power to the iMac for 30 secs.
macOS Recovery
Resolved in macOS Monterey 12 beta 4
- You can now start up from macOS Recovery. (78334511)
^^^^Hmm, I had no such issue. I just made a clone of my startup disk to my backup disk - Monterey B4. Booted from my backup disk and booted fine? I have never had a request for my password.
BTW, all five bootable disks did appear in "Startup Disk".
BTW, all five bootable disks did appear in "Startup Disk".
Seemed like CCC 6.0.3 b1 was working a bit better with MacOS 12 beta 5. (more optimized ) No newer CCC updates yet.
Carbon Copy Cloner 6.0.3-b2 available if you have beta downloads enabled.
Changed
b2: Improved the handling of manual sort order changes of the Tasks list.
[*]Fixed
b2: Fixed a permissions issue that can cause applications to not work correctly when restored from a volume whose ownership is disabled.
[*]Changed
b2: Fixed a rendering issue for the Task Plan text on macOS Monterey.
[*]Changed
b2: The CCC Dashboard window position is now retained when it's closed and later reopened.
[*]Fixed
b2: Fixed an issue in which CCC would not remove additional snapshots from the destination when free space was exhausted in the middle of a backup task (specific to cases where SafetyNet was disabled).
[*]Changed
b2: Fixed an issue that could cause slow performance during postflight re-verification of files copied by the current task in cases where the task was also configured to use the "Find and replace corrupted files" setting.
[*]Changed
b2: CCC will no longer create a snapshot on the source when the source and destination are folders on the same APFS volume. Instead CCC will use the APFS clonefile() function to make clones of files in these cases
b2: Improved the handling of manual sort order changes of the Tasks list.
[*]Fixed
b2: Fixed a permissions issue that can cause applications to not work correctly when restored from a volume whose ownership is disabled.
[*]Changed
b2: Fixed a rendering issue for the Task Plan text on macOS Monterey.
[*]Changed
b2: The CCC Dashboard window position is now retained when it's closed and later reopened.
[*]Fixed
b2: Fixed an issue in which CCC would not remove additional snapshots from the destination when free space was exhausted in the middle of a backup task (specific to cases where SafetyNet was disabled).
[*]Changed
b2: Fixed an issue that could cause slow performance during postflight re-verification of files copied by the current task in cases where the task was also configured to use the "Find and replace corrupted files" setting.
[*]Changed
b2: CCC will no longer create a snapshot on the source when the source and destination are folders on the same APFS volume. Instead CCC will use the APFS clonefile() function to make clones of files in these cases
Carbon Copy Cloner 6.0.3-b2 was a bit more efficient backing up Mac OS 12 beta 5 related to the following fix I observed:
MacOS 12 Beta 6 shows Apple finally remediated some issues, because the wipe and make a new CCC backup using APFS replication was finally bootable without crashing, although it went thorough more then one reboot for it boot to the main Monterey logon screen.
The earlier betas before beta 6 had some issue with it almost booting then crashing on my M1 24" iMac. What I was doing was testing out the CCC APFS Replicator using 6.0.3 b2 to see if it made a bootable copy to a USB-A connected HDD.
There were some odd issues we first saw in b4 and b5 with asking for your admin password after the OS install had downloaded, and prepared just before it reboots appeared to work a lot better with b6.
So need to have others try CCC 6.0.3 b2 with a M1 Mac using the Legacy Bootable Backup Assistant to see if its oK for them also.
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Seems that no-one has noticed a third beta build, namely 6.0.3. I'm grateful to CCC for continuing to update it's product to work with the yet to be released finished Monterey macOS 12.
I just saw that today, I did look a couple of times yesterday and saw no update, so thank you.
- Changed
Relative date references (e.g. "Today", "Yesterday") in the Task Plan and Task History window are now correctly updated when a date change event occurs (i.e. at midnight). - Changed
SafetyNet pruning settings are now consistently visible when the destination is HFS+ formatted. - Changed
Errors that occur due to the OneDrive service's interference with CCC archinving activity on the destination are now suppressed. These typically go away on their own without intervention. - Fixed
Fixed a logic issue that caused the "Never show this dialog" setting to be ignored for the "Remove task audit" dialog. - Fixed
Fixed the "Bring all to front" menu item in the Window menu.
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CCC 6.03 is now released
- Fixed
Fixed an issue in which CCC was unable to replace a folder on the destination with a symbolic link (i.e. because a folder on the source had been replaced by a symbolic link). This issue primarily affected macOS Catalina users, but could also affect Big Sur users for tasks that used the "Don't delete anything" SafetyNet setting. - Fixed
Improved the handling of cases where a source NAS presents a symlink as an ordinary file. Fixed an accounting issue that led to unusually high "data copied" values in those cases. - Fixed
Resolved a condition in which the "Maintain a record of transactions" checkbox became practically uncheck-able in CCC 6.0.2. - Fixed
Fixed a permissions issue that can cause applications to not work correctly when restored from a volume whose ownership is disabled. - Changed
Relative date references (e.g. "Today", "Yesterday") in the Task Plan and Task History window are now correctly updated when a date change event occurs (i.e. at midnight). - Changed
SafetyNet pruning settings are now consistently visible when the destination is HFS+ formatted. - Changed
Errors that occur due to the OneDrive service's interference with CCC archiving activity on the destination are now suppressed. These typically go away on their own without intervention. - Fixed
Fixed a logic issue that caused the "Never show this dialog" setting to be ignored for the "Remove task audit" dialog. - Fixed
Fixed the "Bring all to front" menu item in the Window menu. - Changed
Improved the handling of manual sort order changes of the Tasks list. - Changed
The CCC Dashboard window position is now retained when it's closed and later reopened. - Fixed
Fixed an issue in which CCC would not remove additional snapshots from the destination when free space was exhausted in the middle of a backup task (specific to cases where SafetyNet was disabled). - Changed
Fixed an issue that could cause slow performance during postflight re-verification of files copied by the current task in cases where the task was also configured to use the "Find and replace corrupted files" setting. - Changed
CCC will no longer create a snapshot on the source when the source and destination are folders on the same APFS volume. Instead CCC will use the APFS clonefile() function to make clones of files in these cases. - Changed
Resolved a case where CCC was stripping the destination volume's custom icon in a folder-to-volume task configuration. - Changed
The search field in the Task History window Audit tab now yields results that match folder names as well as file names. in the sidebar for a task or group. When the "group completed" icon is dismissed, that state is now recalled across launches of CCC. - New
Added a new "Last Successful Run" token for the email notification template. - New
Added a Start button to the "Upcoming Group and Task Events" view for task groups. - Changed
Updated how APFS volume disk usage is calculated on macOS Monterey. - Changed
Fixed a rendering issue for the Task Plan text on macOS Monterey. - Changed
Eliminated some spurious "updated attributes" transactions that were getting created when backing up to a NAS volume. - Changed
Resolved a conflict between the "Remove excluded items" setting and custom protection rules. Custom protection rules now have precedence over the "Remove excluded items" setting.
CCC 6.04-b1 is now available if beta downloads is enabled
- New
We added a new "CCC Downgrade Assistant" feature, accessible via CCC's Utilities menu. The Downgrade Assistant can assess a backup volume's compatibility with Migration Assistant, and will create macOS Installer media using a specified volume and installer application. If you kick the tires on this new feature, please let us know how it goes for you. - New
We added another small new feature in the source and destination selectors. If the selected source or destination is a network volume, or a folder on a network volume, you can hold down the Option key to reveal a "Switch to AFP" or "Switch to SMB" menu item. We frequently see slow performance and errors from SMB-mounted volumes, and we often recommend that people try "the other" protocol when the current protocol isn't working out. Now we've made it really simple to switch between the two to see if using a different protocol will yield better results.
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CCC 6.04 is available to update to now. This version of CCC adds official support for macOS 12 Monterey
We found very few issues with Monterey over the last several months so we're anticipating this to be a fairly smooth upgrade cycle. We offer some advice for people contemplating the upgrade, or eventual downgrade to/from this new OS here: Best practices for updating your Mac's OS.
This update includes a handful of changes that are applicable to Catalina and Big Sur users too:
This version of CCC adds official support for macOS 12 Monterey
We found very few issues with Monterey over the last several months so we're anticipating this to be a fairly smooth upgrade cycle. We offer some advice for people contemplating the upgrade, or eventual downgrade to/from this new OS here: Best practices for updating your Mac's OS.
This update includes a handful of changes that are applicable to Catalina and Big Sur users too:
- Changed
The expansion state of the last task group in the sidebar is now properly retained across launches. - Changed
The order of tasks within a task group as shown in the sidebar now tracks the run order defined in the "Upcoming Group and Task Events" table when the sidebar is configured for manual sort ordering. Likewise, tasks within a group cannot be sorted manually in the sidebar when the sidebar is configured for manual sorting. Order the tasks within the "Upcoming Group and Task Events" table to set that custom order. - Changed
Improved the handling of some failure cases when copying the Catalina System volume, e.g. when the destination volume drops offline, or when the destination Data volume can't be unmounted. - Fixed
Fixed an issue in which CCC would fail to mount the destination Data volume in cases where the destination System volume had been removed. - Changed
CCC will no longer remove the System volume from an encrypted destination volume after an OS upgrade. We can't update that System volume, so it becomes essentially useless, but removing it exposes a bug in Disk Utility in which it's unable to unlock the volume. Also fixed an issue in which CCC was failing to unlock those orphaned Data volumes. - Fixed
Fixed a couple issues that were causing exceptions.