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Release Date ― February 8, 2024
Build Number ― Pending
Apple Silicon System Firmware Version ― Pending
T2 BridgeOS System Firmware Version ― Pending (BridgeOS: Pending)

New Features & Changes
Resolved Issues
New Issues
Remaining Issues
Untested Issues

  • Timers do not have the EncoreInfinitum (new) ringtones.
    • Issue present since macOS 14.1
  • Alarms may not play when your display is asleep for a long period of time (FB10086690)
    • Workaround: Make your display not fall asleep in Settings > Lock Screen > Turn display off on ____ when inactive. You can turn your brightness off.
    • Issue present since macOS 13.0
Additional Notes
  • Please know, Memory Management has always been an issue on any OS (not just Apple's). If you believe there is a Memory Leak, please go to the Apple Menu > Restart > Restart to fix it.
  • When a new macOS release comes out, all issues automatically go to "Untested Issues" until they are moved by someone. Issues that stay in Untested for 3 releases (beta or smooth) will be removed from all future threads. When there is a new macOS release, please be sure to let us know about the issue's status by moving it to either "Remaining Issues" or "Resolved Issues"
  • macOS 14 Sonoma will be installed via a Delta Update in System Settings. Please be aware about this and the update won’t install with an installer.
  • macOS 14 is officially supported on the following devices. If your device is not listed below, it has unfortunately been dropped by Apple. Any efforts of trying to get your Mac running macOS 14, including bugs should be discussed in this thread.
    • MacBook Air: 2018, 2019, Intel 2020, M1, M2
    • MacBook Pro: 2018, 2019, Intel 2020, M1, M1 Pro/Max, M2, M2 Pro/Max
    • Mac mini: 2018, M1, M2, M2 Pro
    • iMac: Pro 2017, 4K 2019, 5K 2019, 5K 2020, M1
    • Mac Pro: 2019, M2 Ultra
    • Mac Studio: M1 Max/Ultra, M2 Max/Ultra
  • macOS Somona Preview
  • macOS 14 Release Notes
  • Apple Security Updates
  • Become an Apple Beta Tester

Feel free to add in any issues or new features that you have spotted in this release by clicking the "Edit" button below.
 
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My 2018 Intel Mac mini updated fast, but my M1 MBP went into a recovery boot loop and then finally promoted me to authenticate (in recovery) and then restarted AGAIN and then I was alright. Haven’t had an issue like that in a while.
 
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Can someone check the clock app, go to Timers, then tell me if the iOS 17 Ringtones are in there?

I am on macOS 14.4, and while its fixed there, I can't update the post to see if its a remaining issue.

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I do not understand why only macOS Sonoma Version 14.3.1 got an update and NOT macOS Ventura Version 13.6.5

I can see the download link for Ventura 13.6.5 but I do not know if is still Beta...

Thanks
Camelia
 
Just finished downloading the update. 2.71 GB that took an hour. I saw a post that said that 14.3.1 broke Think or Swim so I updated my test system to see if it works or not. If it doesn't work, then I'll keep my production systems on 14.3.
 
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I do not understand why only macOS Sonoma Version 14.3.1 got an update and NOT macOS Ventura Version 13.6.5

I can see the download link for Ventura 13.6.5 but I do not know if is still Beta...

Thanks
Camelia

Sometimes it takes a while for older versions to get similar updates.
 
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I just updated to 14.3.1 and immediately noticed an issue where any audio coming through my audio interface no longer worked. This affects my headphones, microphones, and the studio monitor speakers that are hooked up to it. At first I thought they weren't working at all, but then I noticed that I could faintly hear noise coming out of a speaker or headphone. I cranked the system audio all the way up and at the max setting, with all of my interface dials cranked up to the max as well, I could now hear the audio but it was at a very low volume. This only affected audio coming through my USB audio interface. Audio piped through my monitor's built-in speaker and the Mac Studio's built in speaker worked like they normally do. After trying to figure out the source of the problem I finally opened up the built-in "Audio MIDI Setup" application in MacOS. Turns out, for whatever reason, the update to the OS had the affect of setting my external interface's audio levels almost all the way down. Setting them back to the standard level of 1.0 fixed the issue. Just sharing in case anybody else has the same issue.

I understand that few people are using external interfaces so this is maybe a niche problem, but Apple markets these machines to creative professionals, so I don't think that criticism is unwarranted when system updates break things that those of us who work with audio depend on to work on our projects. This isn't a 3rd party software thing either, this is 100% just Apple messing up the way their own built in audio settings handle piping audio through external hardware. There's no software layer here to mess things up other than the software Apple controls. This kind of oversight is becoming more and more common and coming from long-time mac user it's getting pretty infuriating because this legitimately wasn't the sort of thing you used to have to worry about with Apple. Things really did just work for the most part for a very long time and this is increasingly not the case. Now it feels like there's some new issue that needs solving for every issue Apple fixes. The user experience of having to troubleshoot, check drivers, etc every time you install a simple update now reminds me of the same frustrations and headaches that led me to switching from Windows TO a Mac almost 20 years ago. I really wish Apple would get back to form, they are getting really sloppy.

On that note (and it is audio related) is there a reason I'm not allowed a setting to NEVER be prompted to have my Airpods connect or be "automagically" detected by my Mac? I never use them on my desktop because when I'm working with audio I'm not using Airpods to do it. Why do I only have the choice between deleting them entirely from my account or using my desktop without being signed in to my account? I know I can set them to not connect automatically, but why am I forced to have them pop up and ask to connect on a computer I don't intend to EVER use them on just because I bought them for my phone? Thats a really dumb way to turn an accessory into something I'm now just going to ditch for 3rd party bluetooth earbuds when it comes time to replace these because you've made the official product part of your ecosystem in a way that doesn't respect how your users want to tailor their experience and use your products. Apple needs to stop with this idea that they just "know best" how we should be using these things, especially when people in many industries know things about their needs that Apple doesn't. They are chasing the convenience of being able to use a device in a completely thoughtless manner, which is fine for the average person who only checks social media and watches YouTube, but for those of us who still want/need to retain control how we use these products in our workflows they are being reduced to toys with fewer and fewer options. Sorry, rant over, just a longtime user frustrated at both the decisions and the sloppiness coming out of Apple in the last several years.
 
Sometimes it takes a while for older versions to get similar updates.
There is no mention of security fixes for either macOS 14.3.1 or iOS 17.3.1. In both cases, the only mentioned bug is "Text may unexpectedly duplicate or overlap while typing". So likely there will be no corresponding update for older macOS that don't have the bug.
 
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My 2018 Intel Mac mini updated fast, but my M1 MBP went into a recovery boot loop and then finally promoted me to authenticate (in recovery) and then restarted AGAIN and then I was alright. Haven’t had an issue like that in a while.
I faced the same problem as your M1 MBP for my 2019 16' MBP many times. has to choose reboot to get normal login screen
 
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On that note (and it is audio related) is there a reason I'm not allowed a setting to NEVER be prompted to have my Airpods connect or be "automagically" detected by my Mac? I never use them on my desktop because when I'm working with audio I'm not using Airpods to do it. Why do I only have the choice between deleting them entirely from my account or using my desktop without being signed in to my account? I know I can set them to not connect automatically, but why am I forced to have them pop up and ask to connect on a computer I don't intend to EVER use them on just because I bought them for my phone? Thats a really dumb way to turn an accessory into something I'm now just going to ditch for 3rd party bluetooth earbuds when it comes time to replace these because you've made the official product part of your ecosystem in a way that doesn't respect how your users want to tailor their experience and use your products. Apple needs to stop with this idea that they just "know best" how we should be using these things, especially when people in many industries know things about their needs that Apple doesn't. They are chasing the convenience of being able to use a device in a completely thoughtless manner, which is fine for the average person who only checks social media and watches YouTube, but for those of us who still want/need to retain control how we use these products in our workflows they are being reduced to toys with fewer and fewer options. Sorry, rant over, just a longtime user frustrated at both the decisions and the sloppiness coming out of Apple in the last several years.

You can try Settings > Bluetooth > click the "i" icon beside the paired Airpods > make sure "Connect to this Mac" is set to "When last connected to this Mac" rather than "Automatically".

EDIT: I'm not sure if you meant you've already unchecked this option and just don't like the AirPods showing up on your Mac under the My Devices section of the Bluetooth Settings. If so, sorry for the redundant comment.
 
You can try Settings > Bluetooth > click the "i" icon beside the paired Airpods > make sure "Connect to this Mac" is set to "When last connected to this Mac" rather than "Automatically".

EDIT: I'm not sure if you meant you've already unchecked this option and just don't like the AirPods showing up on your Mac under the My Devices section of the Bluetooth Settings. If so, sorry for the redundant comment.

I already have them set to "when last connected to this mac" but there's no need to apologize, I appreciate the attempt to help and that part wasn't very clear with how I wrote it.

I would actually be fine with them showing up under my Bluetooth settings because that wouldn't be intrusive. My issue is that despite me setting them to only connect when last connected, I still get a notification pop up any time they are detected nearby (which is often) prompting me to connect to them. There's also nothing in the settings for the airpod's or in the notification settings (that I can see) which would allow me to change this behavior. I can customize notification behavior for any 3rd party app but not for system notifications coming directly from MacOS itself or another Apple device? It just seems ridiculous.

I can technically choose to not have them "connect" automatically but they somehow made that choice the more annoying of the two by using the notification prompts to pester you. It's like Apple's goal here is to force you to have things connect automatically because they've decided for us that's how things should be, so they annoy you and don't let you turn off the notifications or change the behavior. It's the kind of thing I meant when saying they need to stop with this idea that they know best. They're just taking more and more control over how we use our devices out of our hands and acting like it's an improvement to our user experience. Maybe for some it is, but not for me. Apple should be making devices that conform our needs, however specific they may be, not insisting we change the way we want to (or need to) use these machines by making assumptions about what we want. I don't get their goal anymore. Why is a company that puts so much emphasis in their marketing on showing how different types of people in completely different industries all use computers to achieve different goals seemingly so hellbent on creating a one-size-fits-all solution to computing with as little customization as possible? I'm just venting at this point lol. Sorry.
 
I have an issue where on opening a dropbox link to download, I have no access to anything on the page. (All is displayed) This is not an issue on all safari pages as shown here by my rant. However it is also issue on dropbox help page. Frustrating! Not all dropbox windows have the issue. Anyone else have this issue?
 
Apple Music on my M2 MBP has crackling distortion in the onboard speakers and with my AirPods Pro Gen2. Same song at roughly same volume played through any other auto program as well as YouTube is fine. Issue seems to be related solely to Apple Music on macOS. This started with 14.3.1

EDIT/UPDATE: I am not sure how it happened, but the Preamp setting in Apple Music Equalizer was increased a lot. This was the cause of the distortion issue I was having.
 
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Apple Music on my M2 MBP has crackling distortion in the onboard speakers and with my AirPods Pro Gen2. Same song at roughly same volume played through any other auto program as well as YouTube is fine. Issue seems to be related solely to Apple Music on macOS. This started with 14.3.1

EDIT/UPDATE: I am not sure how it happened, but the Preamp setting in Apple Music Equalizer was increased a lot. This was the cause of the distortion issue I was having.
That's infuriating. I had a sound related issue too, and it was also caused by the OS update fiddling around with user settings that there's zero reason an OS update needed to touch. It's getting to the point where Apple is now more likely to break their own apps or system settings with each update than they are to break 3rd party applications.

It really sucks because setting aside a few hours to deal with this kind of troubleshooting every time something was updated is the exact reason I moved away from Windows and over to a Mac to begin with. Now it feels like every update breaks something and it's often in totally random and needless ways. To make matters worse, Apple decided not to provide us with detailed release notes anymore. They used to provide a very detailed list of changes in their release notes, so if you did have the rare issue you could use those notes to identify a change in an area that would directly relate to the issue you are having. Now, we get to play a guessing game when something isn't working. I guess Apple has reached the stage where we should turn off auto updates and hold off on updating anything as long as we can if everything is currently working properly. Feels familiar, and disappointing.
 
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usb-c monitor still cannot be seen sometimes after restart (macbook pro 16 m2 max with 2 external 4k monitors, one at hdmi port and the other on usb-c port) and I have to unplug and plug again the cable.
Never had such problems with the previous operating system (Ventura)
 
usb-c monitor still cannot be seen sometimes after restart (macbook pro 16 m2 max with 2 external 4k monitors, one at hdmi port and the other on usb-c port) and I have to unplug and plug again the cable.
Never had such problems with the previous operating system (Ventura)

I had a bad Thunderbolt 3 cable that I wasn't aware was bad. It was connecting my MBP to a Thunderbolt dock that in turn had a USB-C display attached. Around the time I upgraded to Sonoma, when I would connect my MBP to the dock with the cable, all dock peripherals would be identified except the display. I too blamed the software until I decided to swap it out for a higher quality Apple Thunderbolt 4 cable. Everything just started to work and it's been reliable since. It's worth at least swapping USB-C cables to rule out a bad cable or one that is on its way out. In my case, I had been using the bad cable since 2018 but it had been rock solid until this point. It wasn't as high quality as the Apple cable but wasn't a cheap knockoff cable either.

Here's a link to the post about my bad cable. I forgot that in addition to fixing the display issue, it also remedied write speeds to an external SSD that were slower than I was expecting.
 
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