Just as I'm sure you know that it's somewhat unlikely that a moderator at MacRumors would actually say what I said with a straight face.ih8pc said:You do know those smart citizens you're talking about are windows IT workers.
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Macs for ignorant *bitchin* people only?
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No.dr_lha said:
And actually the word you should have been concerned with was all not bought.
Besides, I've seen more fighting over professors between UC schools than UC schools trying to bring in outside names. For example, Bill Thurston was acquired by US Davis... at the expense of Berkley.
And when the US was deciding who was going to manage the Los Alamos Research faculty in New Mexico, they gave the job to the Regents of the University of California. And the Unix foundations of Mac OS X (BSD) is from UC Berkley.
I wasn't commenting of the status of any one UC school over another. Though UCSB was one of the founding places of Chaos theory, so I wouldn't look down on it.Or was that just at UCSB?
The University of California pretty much has an indisputable history. It is a pretty bitchin' school.
I worked there for 5 years, mate. You didn't have to take my post so seriously!RacerX said:No.
And actually the word you should have been concerned with was all not bought.
Besides, I've seen more fighting over professors between UC schools than UC schools trying to bring in outside names. For example, Bill Thurston was acquired by US Davis... at the expense of Berkley.
And when the US was deciding who was going to manage the Los Alamos Research faculty in New Mexico, they gave the job to the Regents of the University of California. And the Unix foundations of Mac OS X (BSD) is from UC Berkley.
I wasn't commenting of the status of any one UC school over another. Though UCSB was one of the founding places of Chaos theory, so I wouldn't look down on it.
The University of California pretty much has an indisputable history. It is a pretty bitchin' school.
BTW UC royalled f***ed up the running of LANL, so please don't use that as a reason why UC is so great!
Bad choice of words let alone a word to be used in a public campaign. almost stupid.FF_productions said:
Classic!
In a typical Eurotrash post claiming Americans are all stupid (um where was Apple, Microsoft, IBM founded and the Internet, transistors, microchips invented? NOT EUROPE) you come off as a complete dummy.
And what is with this "tiger won't run properly" on a PC comment? WTF? Since when is Mac OS X made for PeeCees?
I'm Lovin it!
If Americans are so brash, go buy a 100% Euro-made PeeCee and operating system (Linux doesn't count, Linus only made the kernel and married it to the GNU libraries which were not Euro-spawn) - if there are any.
In a typical Eurotrash post claiming Americans are all stupid (um where was Apple, Microsoft, IBM founded and the Internet, transistors, microchips invented? NOT EUROPE) you come off as a complete dummy.
And what is with this "tiger won't run properly" on a PC comment? WTF? Since when is Mac OS X made for PeeCees?
I'm Lovin it!
If Americans are so brash, go buy a 100% Euro-made PeeCee and operating system (Linux doesn't count, Linus only made the kernel and married it to the GNU libraries which were not Euro-spawn) - if there are any.
dr_lha said:Right after you go and buy a 100% American-made PeeCee.
American Designed, built to our standards.
Subiklim said:
you seem a bit ignorant
Especially since barely any of the components of a computer are made in america.
and one company (Levono or whatever) isn't even an american company.
jsw said:
You just need to use the sarcastic tag.
Like this, Willy S's [sarcasm]astute cultural analysis is so impressive I am sure that Apple will read this and immediately jettison a CEO who has been instrumental in recreating the company he once founded [/sarcasm].
See easy as pie.
I wonder what Willy S thinks of Balmer's "I'm going to ******* kill Google" comment and subsequent chair-throwing.
Another UCSB graduate
I'm just piping in with my love for UCSB, and its ECE and Materials Departments. Yes, it's true, when the departments were founded in the 80's that researchers were well paid to leave places like IBM and Bell Labs to come to Santa Barbara. And, in the case of Herb Kroemer, his Nobel work was done at Bell Labs back in the 60's. Walter Kohn's was also done before UCSB, as was David Gross's and Alan Heeger's. That has no bearing on the quality of research they did/do at UCSB, just shows we have kick ass faculty. I'm very proud to have a Materials PhD from there.
I'm just piping in with my love for UCSB, and its ECE and Materials Departments. Yes, it's true, when the departments were founded in the 80's that researchers were well paid to leave places like IBM and Bell Labs to come to Santa Barbara. And, in the case of Herb Kroemer, his Nobel work was done at Bell Labs back in the 60's. Walter Kohn's was also done before UCSB, as was David Gross's and Alan Heeger's. That has no bearing on the quality of research they did/do at UCSB, just shows we have kick ass faculty. I'm very proud to have a Materials PhD from there.
Dont Hurt Me said:
Jobs used bitchin not as part of a public ad campaign, but rather during a presentation. And, while not the most staid choice of phrases, bitchin works culturally (baby-boomer -> Gen-X/Y know what bitchin means [mostly]) and figuratively as an expression of Jobs' enthusiasm of the MacBook Pro.
I think Willy just misunderstood the expression or is shocked by even the mere hint of a curse word.
As for the whole European vs. American thing, let it freakin' go. Neither is superior to the other and each has its advantages.
Willy S said:I just watched the TV commercial "I´m a Mac and I´m a PC" and combined with Jobs´s "bitchin" comment, I´m really thinking that Mac is mostly aimed at people who posess relatively little intellectual capabilities.
Maybe this is just a part of an American culture, which doesn´t appeal to Europeans like me?
I´m now in the market for a nice portable computer for my wife, who is a very intellectual person and will be awarded with a PhD degree in 2 months. I wanted to get a Mac for her, since PCs don´t support Tiger properly and legally, but I just cannot tolerate that the CEO of Apple is pratically saying that Apple customers, who pay their hard earned cash for high priced, underclocked Macs, are *bitchin.*
I hope Apple´s board will fire this man and hire a CEO that pays some respect to the company´s customers!
I think The Bithcne comment was a joke by Jobs and his way of using new slang. As for the Mac vs PC guys well the Young Guy is meant to show change and something new.
don't dis bitchin California...
According to The World Factbook published by the CIA, if California were an independent nation, it would have had the ninth largest economy in the world.
More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California#California_as_an_independent_nation
BTW...I'm a 3rd generation born in Santa Monica, CA
WildCowboy said:
According to The World Factbook published by the CIA, if California were an independent nation, it would have had the ninth largest economy in the world.
More here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California#California_as_an_independent_nation
BTW...I'm a 3rd generation born in Santa Monica, CA
Subiklim said:
And Apple's Head of Industrial Design, Jonathan Ive, is from where??
For those who don't know the anwser is the UK.
eva01 said:
I'm sorry? I never specified where they were made; I'm trying to say they were designed in America. I suppose I should have been more articulate.
Leveno is still making IBM designed laptops, but yes, they are not an American company.
Jobs said it in a Q&A session as part of a shareholders meeting.milo said:
Jobs has never been one business etiquette.
This thread is giving me a case of the Willies!
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willies |?wil?z| plural noun ( the willies) informal a strong feeling of nervous apprehension and discomfort : that room gave him the willies. ORIGIN late 19th cent.(originally U.S.): of unknown origin.willy |?wil?| (also willie) noun ( pl. -lies) informal a penis. ORIGIN early 20th cent.: nickname for the given name William.
That is so funny...maybe my local Apple store is far from the norm but the kids that hang out there sure as hell aren't preppy snobs. Quite the opposite. And the last time I went there wearing my Metallica t-shirt and cut-off jeans I got hit on by 3 dudes, all wearing bussiness suits lookin' like 'dem upper-class type peoples, (oh crap, I lapsed into "white-trashese"-my filter must be off) one drove a Jag, another a Porche, and the 3rd was the store manager. My point? The "type" that you think belongs on the Mac scene would just as easily cheat on their wives (the Jag guy had a wedding ring...even worse made he made no attempt to hide it), they are no different in the regard that, white trash or high-society, guys are mainly led around by their d*cks.BurtonCCC said:
So there.
To the OP-I'm sure you are a troll and are probably getting your kicks but this is entertaining so I'll bite. The above rant was just a small example of how silly any "sticking to a stereotype" could be. Jobs says "bitchin" and Mac users are stupid? One word is enough to kill it for you? I hope you don't apply this to every area of your life. Take 2 people. The guy in the bussiness suit and the Jag who happens to be married. The girl in the Metallica t-shirt and cut-off jeans. First glance you'd think the Jag guy would be more "palatable". Yet he would cheat on his wife, risk everything he has just for sex. Yet the girl, who you think looks like "white trash", wouldn't ever dream of cheating, or being the "other girl", or being picked up for that matter. Morally speaking I kick his ass. While it is easy to be influenced by something so minor as a shirt or a word you really can't judge a book by its cover. So many times you will be drastically wrong.
Yes. Please note my comment about UCSB was a gentle jab, not a criticism. Walter Kohn and Alan Heeger are great guys (I didn't ever get the chance to meet Herb Kroemer), and UCSB has a fantastic research faculty.gauchogolfer said:
STUDY HALL RULES!!!