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Nobody19

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Did the mail app get an uplift? wondering if you can use @ to mentioned people like in Outlook.
 
I haven't seen anyone talk about using @ in email. As to the stock app itself, it doesn't look like it got a new GUI. Most of the improvements (security and privacy) have been under the hood (so to speak) from what I read about.
 
I dumped Mail in iOS 13 after the read/unread syncing and badge notification issues. Our company uses Google for email and that's where my personal account is (since I couldn't get my desired @icloud.com address), so I was basically forced to move to the Gmail app after 13.1 didn't fix the Apple Mail issues. I haven't looked back. I suggest you start looking elsewhere too. Unless you need very basic email functionality, the stability and functionality of Apple Mail is pretty stunted (in my opinion).
 
I dumped Mail in iOS 13 after the read/unread syncing and badge notification issues. Our company uses Google for email and that's where my personal account is (since I couldn't get my desired @icloud.com address), so I was basically forced to move to the Gmail app after 13.1 didn't fix the Apple Mail issues. I haven't looked back. I suggest you start looking elsewhere too. Unless you need very basic email functionality, the stability and functionality of Apple Mail is pretty stunted (in my opinion).
I've been loving Spark lately! That might be a shout for a good alternative for the OP
 
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I dumped Mail in iOS 13 after the read/unread syncing and badge notification issues. Our company uses Google for email and that's where my personal account is (since I couldn't get my desired @icloud.com address), so I was basically forced to move to the Gmail app after 13.1 didn't fix the Apple Mail issues. I haven't looked back. I suggest you start looking elsewhere too. Unless you need very basic email functionality, the stability and functionality of Apple Mail is pretty stunted (in my opinion).
Agree. I wanted to use the apple mail app but had the same issues (the notification/badge one was super irritating) and have been using spark for my personal gmail and gmail for work and haven't looked back.
 
I would just caution having yet another company with access to your emails.

The Apple mail client pulls directly from your mail provider. No server in between (that is how 3rd parties push your mail to you).

And obviously, your mail provider app already has your email. Ie. if you use the gmail app for gmail no issue since they are already your provider.

There have been some pretty bad privacy breaches with 3rd party apps. Not with Spark, but not impossible.



Not anything specific or a scare tactic, but an FYI. People tend to have short memories too. It can and does happen.

And emails with your bank account, password reset links, or other sensitive emails...that's a no for me personally.
 
I would just caution having yet another company with access to your emails.

The Apple mail client pulls directly from your mail provider. No server in between (that is how 3rd parties push your mail to you).

And obviously, your mail provider app already has your email. Ie. if you use the gmail app for gmail no issue since they are already your provider.

There have been some pretty bad privacy breaches with 3rd party apps. Not with Spark, but not impossible.

Not anything specific or a scare tactic, but an FYI. People tend to have short memories too. It can and does happen.

And emails with your bank account, password reset links, or other sensitive emails...that's a no for me personally.

Agreed. I thought long and hard about this before using Spark and tried to find as much about it as I could before I signed up. I still get second thoughts about it and almost deleted it the other day. I may switch back to Mail if I'm honest. I dislike Outlook as it's just hella messy and the gmail app feels clunky to me.. And the Mail app is devoid of any additional features. Which is why I switched to Spark in the first place :(
 
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Mail has been on of my pet peeves for the last few OS upgrades.
12ProMax and IPP 11
Not seeing any improvement.

New bugs for beat 2:
- seeing an issue with iCloud mail push after you have been in Airplane mode.
- seeing Mail on my IPP forgetting what inbox it was in. Start in Unread, close it, open it and you are in All Inboxes. haven't seen this since early 14.x betas.
 
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Agreed. I thought long and hard about this before using Spark and tried to find as much about it as I could before I signed up. I still get second thoughts about it and almost deleted it the other day. I may switch back to Mail if I'm honest. I dislike Outlook as it's just hella messy and the gmail app feels clunky to me.. And the Mail app is devoid of any additional features. Which is why I switched to Spark in the first place :(

I dont like Outlook either. It is too detached from iOS- contacts especially. It seems to do everything just passable; nothing well. And I have a weird issue using gmail accounts that when I archive a conversation that the messages I sent out are not threaded (like all other apps). Only gmail accounts so its clearly a bug. And MS support wont even try to understand the issue; even when sending them photos etc. Been like that for months. AND I beta on Testflight for them, you think they would listen to feedback and issues :rolleyes:

Gmail is very clunky but it kind of does everything. Snooze, send later, etc. Pushes mail. It's not trying ot be contacts, calendar, etc all mushed in one. It's very clunk switching accounts- Im used to all my sent, archive, etc combined, not just the inbox only.

Mail is mail. It hasn't changed in years really. It sends and receives email. The problem is there are bugs like it hangs on "Checking for mail" sometimes. Basic usability stuff. It's a bit baffling they updated Facetime and Messages for remote work but don't consider email a remote work use. I don't think there is even 1 new feature this year for Mail the privacy/tracking blocking thing is really a service not the app).
 
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The “Checking for mail” hang is really the only problem I have, but it’s been there since iOS 13. Doesn’t anyone at Apple use their own stuff? Taking two minutes to check for email is really annoying.

If they fix that I’ll be fine.
 
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Definitely in the minority here. I like Apple Mail and it seems to work well with me. Yes, it is not as feature rich as other apps, but definitely capable and gets the job done. Also, like others have mentioned, I’m not feeling good about other companies having access to my emails. Only complaint I have with the beta is that using backspace to delete on a keyboard is hit or miss.
 
The “Checking for mail” hang is really the only problem I have, but it’s been there since iOS 13. Doesn’t anyone at Apple use their own stuff? Taking two minutes to check for email is really annoying.

If they fix that I’ll be fine.
They likely all use @icloud which is push. So there is never a hanging issue, or very minor ones.

The hanging seems to occur with IMAP.
 
They likely all use @icloud which is push. So there is never a hanging issue, or very minor ones.

The hanging seems to occur with IMAP.
Did it with iCloud push for me. The first time I consistently had NO hanging since iOS 13 was with iOS 15 b1, but with b2 I get an occasional hang. 90% of the time it is fine. One Exchange360 and one iCloud account.
 
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