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chadbillington

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I'm looking to upgrade my 2012 MacBook Pro to one of the M1 MacBooks. The only problem is that my current MacBook is a customized laptop. I have a 250 GB SSD, and I took out the CD drive for a 1 TB hard drive.

On the 1 TB I have my photos library, over 50,000 images and 400 GB of data. Too big for the new SSD's. I don't want to pay for a large iCloud account. Any tips or thoughts on using an external HD for my Photos library. does anyone have experince with this or suggestions?
 

deep diver

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I'm looking to upgrade my 2012 MacBook Pro to one of the M1 MacBooks. The only problem is that my current MacBook is a customized laptop. I have a 250 GB SSD, and I took out the CD drive for a 1 TB hard drive.

On the 1 TB I have my photos library, over 50,000 images and 400 GB of data. Too big for the new SSD's. I don't want to pay for a large iCloud account. Any tips or thoughts on using an external HD for my Photos library. does anyone have experince with this or suggestions?
I keep my photos on an external ssd and it is also backed up on my Time Machine drive. It serves my purposes well, but everyone's needs are different.
You will get as many suggestions as there are people that respond to your question. Do whatever makes most sense for you.
 

Ray2

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Both my Photos managed library and larger referenced library reside on an external. That approach goes back to iPhoto and Aperture.

Tips: I’d strongly suggest an ssd. Too many spinners are PMR drives these days.
 
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planteater

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Both the new AS Macbook Air and Macbook Pro come with options for 512GB, 1TB and 2TB storage. Have you considered them?
 

Fishrrman

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OP wrote:
"I'm looking to upgrade my 2012 MacBook Pro to one of the M1 MacBooks. The only problem is that my current MacBook is a customized laptop. I have a 250 GB SSD, and I took out the CD drive for a 1 TB hard drive."

What's the problem here?
I just looked at the Apple Store online, and one can order the m1 MacBook Pro with up to 2tb of SSD storage.
I would also suggest you get the model with 16gb of RAM.
 
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Clix Pix

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I have a 1 TB SSD in my current 2018 MacBook Pro but I keep all of my photo files (processed/edited, RAW files, etc.) on separate external SSDs because I do a fair amount of photography, usually shooting several times a week and often every day. Those files add up fast!! After I have shot something, I download the files into my computer, review and edit any images that I am going to edit, and then transfer the files to one of the external drives. I also have archival drives for older photo files as well. I don't use the Photos app; I have other editing programs that I use and I have my own system of organizing the files afterwards.
 

chadbillington

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Both the new AS Macbook Air and Macbook Pro come with options for 512GB, 1TB and 2TB storage. Have you considered them?
Not sure I have it in my budget for the price that is charged for some of those SSD upgrades by Apple. Also thinking I may want to use a desktop at home in the future (the laptop doubles as my work machine), that's why I'm asking about the external drives and Photos app.
 
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planteater

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Not sure I have it in my budget for the price that is charged for some of those SSC upgrades by Apple. Also thinking I may want to use a desktop at home in the future (the laptop doubles as my work machine), that's why I'm asking about the external drives and Photos app.
I have a couple SanDisk 1TB Extreme Portable SSD's that are very fast, light, and reliable. They also come in both larger and smaller sizes than 1TB. I love mine and they also get very good reviews. They might be worth a look for you.

 

cupcakes2000

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It’s a very simple procedure and works well. I have had my library set up on an external spinner, and external ssd and most recently my nas via 10gb Ethernet. The most simple are the two stand alone drive options amd the better one out of the two was the ssd obvs. Cheap(-cheaper than Apple internal ssd prices), simple and transferable.
 

Alexmo123

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Has anyone tried the approach outlined in the below article? It seems like it is the best of both worlds and would allow you to still have local files available. I have always been in a similar situation with a 750+GB library, but never loved always having to plug in my external drive to view anything.

 

chabig

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Has anyone tried the approach outlined in the below article?
I do it that way using a Mac Mini at home. But you don't need to create a new user account. You can do it in your regular user account. The photos are stored full resolution on an external drive and the Photos app know that. It's pretty seamless. Photos I take anywhere get sent to iCloud, and the Mini downloads them at full resolution when it syncs with iCloud. I back up this external drive weekly and rotate backups offsite monthly.
 

hifimacianer

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I think the Workaround mentioned above is more relevant for MacBook users, who don't want to attach an external drive all the time, even when using it on your lap.

This way you can work within your Photos Library when you use it on your couch, but also have the option to store all the Images on an external drive, when you are back on your desk.

I was actually thinkin about the same.
I am using an 2015 27" 5k iMac right now, but ordered an M1 MBA.
From the specs, the MBA will outperform the iMac with ease, when using it with a good external monitor and TB3 Docking station. But the fact that I have more than 1TB of Photos on an external drive was driving me crazy, because then I always have to take the external drive with me to edit Images. I don't want to use iCloud excluive, and want to have a copy of my images on an SSD too.

With this workaround, this is possible. Desktop mode and mobile mode.
 

HillReflects

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EuroChilli

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Both the new AS Macbook Air and Macbook Pro come with options for 512GB, 1TB and 2TB storage. Have you considered them?

I considered the 2TB option, for about 2 mins, then the price tag put me off. Going from 256GB to 2TB added €900, and between my wife and I, we have a collective total of over 2.5TB (and growing) of video and photo spanning 50 years, so we need externals anyway. We now each have an 8/256 M1 Air and can swap drives depending who wants to do what. Our 200GB iTunes library is also on an external. Only really apps and the OS on the local drives, you get used to externals. We then spend the money saved on things like vacations.

I'm busy merging multiple iPhoto libraries all into one mega Photos and one mega iMovie library, each on their own regular 4TB HD's, which cost just €90 a piece on Amazon. It'll be easy enough to upgrade/replace those if necessary. Those drives are then backed up with Time Machine, twice, on separate drives which are then kept in 2 separate locations. Fires, floods etc, they happen. I live an hours drive from some of the Belgian villages that have just been washed away.

So far, the movie library is at 900GB, and iMovie isn't complaining. When the photos are done, that library will be about 1.4TB and contain over 150k images only as we are also extracting over 1000 video files from the Photos libraries. The idea going forward is to use Photos for photos and iMovie for movies. It seems logical, and you can scrub through videos with iMovie, among other things.

What I think is giving a few beach balls right now is spotlight, people, memories etc running in the background, but those activities seem to pause when you're actively using the apps. Otherwise, things seem to be working just fine, opening either the photo or movie libraries barely gives me time to take a sip of coffee. Browsing through them is fast.

We then leave everything on and connected when we go out, or to bed, so the background tasks can run. Those things will eventually finish, but we have a lot of stuff, so I expect it to take a while. But we do disconnect the drives sometimes, the background tasks then pick up where they left off when connected again.

You also don't need a dongle when using an external drive, just get one of these, from Amazon:

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Also, keep in mind that Apple is now warning to not backup with TimeMachine a photo library on an external hard drive. See more at this link https://support.apple.com/guide/photos/back-up-the-photos-library-pht6d60d10f/6.0/mac/11.0

If you read that carefully, they warn you not to keep a Photo library and a TM backup of that library on the same external drive, because of possible permissions conflicts. I must admit, they could have worded that a bit better. It also defeats the object of backups if you keep them on the same medium as the original data.

Using Time Machine, it is perfectly fine to backup a Photos, or iMovie library, that is on an external. Just be sure to back those up on yet another separate drive. I'm doing that, I even did a test restore on a library, works perfectly. Just bare in mind you can only restore an entire library, not individual images within a library. The bigger the library, the longer it will take. By default, TM will ignore externals, so you have to set it to include them, if required. You don't want your TM to automatically back up someone else's drive.

You may be best served running huge libraries on external SSD's, if you're a pro and speed is a problem for you, and put Time Machine on traditional spinners which for the same price are much bigger than SSD's, TM drives don't need to be fast. TM can then just run in the background while you work.

Moral of the story, from where I'm sitting, there seems to be no official limit on the size of a Photos, or iMovie library, except for the size and performance specs of the drives you put them on. And, an M1 Air with 8 RAM will serve the average user just fine, and then some, no matter the size of library.
 
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