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Masimo CEO: Apple Watch Blood Oxygen Sensor is Not Reliable, Customers Are 'Better Off Without It'
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If that's true, then Apple takes the Douchiest Company Ever Award for suing Samsung over rounded corners. Every company protects its IP.
We will see his reaction after the Appellate Courts. Anyone who thinks this is over does not understand the US Appellate System and Apple’s ability to navigate it.
The hardware is still in the devices. It’s the App that is disabled.
His shareholders should be pressuring him to negotiate in good faith. His request for $100 per devise in Royalties is ludicrous and immature. Apple would be willing to settle on a reality based figure.
His wish to “Collaborate” is also fiction. Apple is not going to let Masimo use the AW as a Hardware Testbed. Masimo deep down isn’t interested in licensing, they want to be the Sensor Hardware supplier.
Never going to happen.
The hardware is still in the devices. It’s the App that is disabled.
His shareholders should be pressuring him to negotiate in good faith. His request for $100 per devise in Royalties is ludicrous and immature. Apple would be willing to settle on a reality based figure.
His wish to “Collaborate” is also fiction. Apple is not going to let Masimo use the AW as a Hardware Testbed. Masimo deep down isn’t interested in licensing, they want to be the Sensor Hardware supplier.
Never going to happen.
So is he implying that Masimo's technology sucks? 🤔
My Apple Watch fluctuates between 93% and 98%. Pretty useless if you ask me.
"...there has been no chat with Apple..."
Is that a quote from the CEO MacRumors?
Wouldn't the appropriate words be discussion or negotiation?
How odd.
Is that a quote from the CEO MacRumors?
Wouldn't the appropriate words be discussion or negotiation?
How odd.
Just anectdotal, but when I got covid the first time around and it was hitting me hard, i was monitoring my blood oxygen on the watch just out of curiosity. When I finally went to hopsital the readings were bang on.
I think he is trying to imply that Apple is applying or manipulating the “stolen” Masimo tech incorrectly i.e., Masimo's technology is good, Apple's application of it sucks.
and Apple has been advertising the SpO2 feature as a wellness feature and not to be used for medical purposes ... so there is that, this guy is wrong.
I believe they are one of the biggest makers of medical pulse oximeters for hospitals. Will not go out of business.
I can't wait for other newsworthy quotes like "Apple's screens are terrible," from Samsung or "Pepsi just tastes awful" from Coke.
(And yes, I know. The first one may be a little too on the nose here.)
Fair point. I work in healthcare, so definitely familiar with Masimo's tech. I've seen Apple Watch readings compared to O2 sensors. Sometimes their readings are spot on. Sometimes close. Other times...not so much. I would absolutely trust the O2 sensor's reading over the watch's reading, simply for the sake of consistency. But I don't recall Apple ever saying this is the "be all end all" reading. Given that it's not the main purpose of the Apple Watch, I could imagine "perfection" isn't the primary goal.
(Not disputing your point, by the way. Just in case that wasn't clear)! Honestly, this whole thing is a cluster 😂
So what does that mean exactly? A "wellness feature"? Is that another way of saying "gimmick"? Apple might have ripped off Massimo's tech but still implemented it in a sub-standard way. Bottom line remains, Apple's products aren't FDA approved and, as you pointed out, are marketed as "wellness" devices, which is really quite meaningless. Massimo's products are FDA approved and have been used by the medical industry for decades. So, no, this guy is not wrong.
Erm... did the people who sold the the sleep apnea treatment also conduct the sleep study? If so, they have an interest in finding the minimum SpO2 values possible.
In any case, one or the other sensor was wrong, or your Apple Watch doesn't measure this during sleep. Could be a lot of things.
Or Apple did their own thing, but Masimo's CEO is butt hurt about them hiring away some of their employees.
This is such a pointless fight and the consumer pays the price.
Yeah they definitely aren't going anywhere anytime soon, that's for sure.
Your SpO2 will improve with aerobic exercise for instance if you are very out of shape..
It mean if you think something is wrong go to a doctor.
I've only seen 97-98-99 from mine, which I suppose is good... assuming it's accurate which this CEO says it's not 🤷🏻♂️
A lot of people posting in this thread are revealing that they cannot hold two related but ultimately exclusive ideas in their heads. Apple could build a sensor that both violates Masimo’s patent and collects health metrics in an inferior way to the product they ripped off.
And do you need a gimmicky "wellness" feature to tell you that?