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p3ntyne

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As you may remember, holding shift while pressing the maximise key would maximise it to the entire screen except for the dock and menu bar (Windows style).

In Yosemite, pressing the maximise button makes it completely full screen, holding option makes it get bigger but holding option and shift has the same effect of pressing nothing at all (completely full screen.) Does anybody know of a workaround as I used this feature all the time?
 
Which version of Mac OS X does that? I tried in Mavericks with Safari and Finder, but no matter which modifier keys I held down, the maximise button always triggered the same traditional behaviour.
 
As you may remember, holding shift while pressing the maximise key would maximise it to the entire screen except for the dock and menu bar (Windows style).

As far as I know, it has never done that, which is why Windows switchers have been complaining for years. The new Yosemite functionality (with full screen as the default operation) was probably done to appease the switchers.
 
Really? I always used to shift click the maximise button to get similar functionality to dragging the app window to the entire screen... Look it up - it says it everywhere, like here: http://tinyurl.com/buhr3ao

Anyway, it's not a huge deal - I might just start using full screen.
 
Of course app developers can do anything they want, but Apple's "OS X Human Interface Guidelines" states:

Your app determines the initial size and position of a window, which is called the standard state. If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 points, the new size and location is the called the user state. The user can toggle between the standard state and the user state by clicking the zoom button in the title bar. Follow the guidelines in this section so that users can have the zoom experience they expect.

I have noticed that more and more apps seem to be treating the zoom button as a maximize button anyway, probably due to the Windows influence. But the guidelines continue:

Choose a standard state that is best suited for the tasks your app enables. A document window, for example, should show as much as possible of the document’s content. Don’t assume that the standard state should be as large as the current display permits; instead, determine a size that makes it convenient for users to use your app. If appropriate, you can allow users to take some app windows full screen if they want more space.

Adjust the standard state when appropriate. The user can’t change the standard state that defines a window’s initial position and size, but your app can do so, based on other settings. For example, a word processor might define a standard that accommodates the display of a document whose width is specified in the Page Setup dialog.

Respond appropriately when the user zooms. When the user zooms a window that is in the user state, your app should make sure that size defined by the standard state is appropriate in the current context. Specifically, move the window as little as possible to make it the standard size, while at the same time keeping the entire window on the screen. The zoom button should not cause the window to fill the entire screen unless that was the last state the user set.
 
As you may remember, holding shift while pressing the maximise key would maximise it to the entire screen except for the dock and menu bar (Windows style).

Should have told me 8 years ago... I never liked the zoom functionality.

I have noticed that more and more apps seem to be treating the zoom button as a maximize button anyway, probably due to the Windows influence.

Also because a lot of apps now display a single application frame, as opposed to various windows floating around. But yeah, this was a long awaited change in the world of OS X.
 
Of course app developers can do anything they want, but Apple's "OS X Human Interface Guidelines" states:



I have noticed that more and more apps seem to be treating the zoom button as a maximize button anyway, probably due to the Windows influence. But the guidelines continue:

OK. I guess that makes sense. I'll just have to get used to it.

Should have told me 8 years ago... I never liked the zoom functionality.

Sorry about that...
 
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I know this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but I just use bettersnaptool and key commands. To maximize a window completely I just have it set as fn+cmd+up arrow.
 
I know this isn't exactly what you're looking for, but I just use bettersnaptool and key commands. To maximize a window completely I just have it set as fn+cmd+up arrow.

Thx! I'll give it a try! Although, I must admit that I am starting to get used to the new way of working, using full screen when necessary.
 
Never used the zoom function since it was extremely buggy in Safari, now that you mention it I just realized the bug is fixed in Mavericks! Oh well too late I guess, it's not like I'm going to start using it now...
 
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