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Do you have wifi problems

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CptPusheen

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Nov 25, 2020
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Did you look at wifi logs of your Apple Silicon Macs? Mine is full of errors and I'm curious if it's isolated case that could go away with os reinstall or maybe it's hardware related. This is how it looks like in my case: LOG. Looks like it happens every time MacBook is woken from sleep. Anyone with similar problems? Oh, and sidecar can make my MacBook drop connection ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

stevenaaus

macrumors member
Oct 23, 2013
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> systemWokenByWiFi: System Wake Reason not found

Once upon a time, laptop power modes were the bane of windows and linux, while Mac - with their total hardware control - had it working perfectly. So i'ts kindof indicitive of their failing software standards, that they have so many related issues at the moment.

I don't really know what could be happening. But it's obviously broken when people with brand new machines have kernel fails and black screens (or in this case, wifi system calls) after power resume.
 

elgringos

macrumors newbie
Nov 17, 2020
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Did you look at wifi logs of your Apple Silicon Macs? Mine is full of errors and I'm curious if it's isolated case that could go away with os reinstall or maybe it's hardware related. This is how it looks like in my case: LOG. Looks like it happens every time MacBook is woken from sleep. Anyone with similar problems? Oh, and sidecar can make my MacBook drop connection ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I have exactly the same problem as you, I was also wondering what to do.
 

theSeb

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Aug 10, 2010
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This is completely normal. You will see the exact same errors on Intel Macs too. Nothing for you to fret or worry about and nothing that you can, or need to, do about it.
 
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leman

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Oct 14, 2008
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This is completely normal. You will see the exact same errors on Intel Macs too. Nothing for you to fret or worry about and nothing that you can, or need to, do about it.

It's harmless, but I wouldn't consider it normal. If a log is constantly throws out irrelevant errors, then it's a good indication that something is in need of fixing.
 

theSeb

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It's harmless, but I wouldn't consider it normal. If a log is constantly throws out irrelevant errors, then it's a good indication that something is in need of fixing.
Not necessarily, unless you mean that the logging system itself needs fixing. If you look at your various system logs you will see they are full of "concerning" errors and one can come to the conclusion that everything must be broken. This applies to both Windows and MacOs.

There is nothing in the wifi log in the first post that merits further investigation, or worry. It is completely normal and they are relevant errors. But they are not relevant to a user, nor indicative of a problem.

Whether it is good software engineering practice to log these types of messages when they are visible to users is a completely different discussion, but it is normal these days.
 

chrisia777

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Jan 21, 2021
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It's harmless, but I wouldn't consider it normal. If a log is constantly throws out irrelevant errors, then it's a good indication that something is in need of fixing.
I have a external display connnected, when i put mbp into sleep, this bug cause my display wake up every 15 minutes...
 

theSeb

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I have a external display connnected, when i put mbp into sleep, this bug cause my display wake up every 15 minutes...
That’s actually a different problem. I have the same “errors” in my WiFi log and my monitors go to sleep ok and do not wake up.
 

chrisia777

macrumors newbie
Jan 21, 2021
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That’s actually a different problem. I have the same “errors” in my WiFi log and my monitors go to sleep ok and do not wake up.
I checked the log, these wifi error logs "systemWokenByWiFi: System Wake Reason not found" happened at the same as my wake up issue...That's why I found here.Maybe it's just a coincidence, thanks bro.
 

Jimgpayne

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Feb 19, 2012
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> systemWokenByWiFi: System Wake Reason not found

So i'ts kindof indicitive of their failing software standards, that they have so many related issues at the moment.
Let's be honest here guys.......

The M1 Macs are brand new technology. We should expect right up front that there will be problems. To say that issues are illustrative of failing software standards does a dis-service to what has been done here.

Like you said yourself.... These kind of power mode issues have been rampant in every other brand pretty much since the dawn of time.

The M1 is a completely new architecture. And Big Sur on M1 is a completely new code base. Does anyone remember what a pain it was to run Windows 3.11 on the first generation P60? Let alone Windows 95 and it's new "Plug and Pray" driver configurations?

Today; even Microsoft can't give us a good experience running X64 on ARM. And they have been trying to now since 2012.

And we've heard now from various sources that it was Intel's own continuous issues every time they introduced a new X64 chip that convinced Apple that they could a much better job at it than Intel has done.

Linus Torvalds recently said Linux could not even run on the M1. Yet these boards contain messages form people have gotten it running. Along with Windows 10 and X86 apps..... Although all of these "extracurricular" activities have been done by hobbyists and not the actual companies that own the IP.

The very fact that the M1 runs software written for a completely foreign chipset as a wonder. But like everything else in the technology sector - the first generation of anything always has unexpected issues when used in the field by consumers. There's a reason why we laughingly refer to it as "Bleeding Edge".
 

theSeb

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I checked the log, these wifi error logs "systemWokenByWiFi: System Wake Reason not found" happened at the same as my wake up issue...That's why I found here.Maybe it's just a coincidence, thanks bro.
No worries. If you want to troubleshoot what is actually causing your system to wake up, then open Terminal (Applications --> Utilities) or cmd + space and start typing Terminal

Now type in the below and hit enter

Bash:
log show --style syslog | fgrep "[powerd:sleepWake] Wake"

This will take a while, depending on your machine, but eventually you will have an output that looks something like this

As you can see this computer basically wakes up when I touch the mouse or keyboard (user activity). The private is likely to be calling home (find my Mac etc). Now you need to check the timings when your computer awoke against the log.

Screenshot 2021-01-22 at 18.03.55.png


You can also check what is preventing your Mac from going to sleep, if you have that problem, with

Code:
pmset -g assertions

in the Terminal window. But instead of me explaining this one, here is a handy article

 
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chrisia777

macrumors newbie
Jan 21, 2021
10
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No worries. If you want to troubleshoot what is actually causing your system to wake up, then open Terminal (Applications --> Utilities) or cmd + space and start typing Terminal

Now type in the below and hit enter

Bash:
log show --style syslog | fgrep "[powerd:sleepWake] Wake"

This will take a while, depending on your machine, but eventually you will have an output that looks something like this

As you can see this computer basically wakes up when I touch the mouse or keyboard (user activity). The private is likely to be calling home (find my Mac etc). Now you need to check the timings when your computer awoke against the log.

View attachment 1717679

You can also check what is preventing your Mac from going to sleep, if you have that problem, with

Code:
pmset -g assertions

in the Terminal window. But instead of me explaining this one, here is a handy article

Mine is not a normal wake-up problem. It's probably a kernel error. On the apple community, a lot of people reported.I tried all kinds of ways even did clean installed the system, but they didn't work.It only happens on the m1 mac.But thank you very much anyway.
 
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