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rickeames

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Struggling with my MBP 14 battery life. It's making me a little crazy that I don't get anywhere near 5 hours with this thing. Over night, it dropped sitting on the table closed, then in the time I've been doing nothing but the web, I'm now down to 38%. I have the Max, so I know that's a factor, but yeeesh.

 
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Honza1

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I have MBP 16 M1Pro, brand new, and my battery life estimates are 15-20 hours in normal use - and they look real! I did discharge cycle to "condition battery" using AlDente and it took 2 days to discharge the battery to 15% with my use. From what I read MBP 14 should be similar in battery life. Looks to me something is running and system is not sleeping. I loose nothing over night. Check the processes in Activity monitor and see which require a lot of energy. See if any of those is suspicious or hanging. Restart and see if it comes back. This is not normal.
 
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Novius89

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I am noticing the same in “sleep mode” when I close my MacBook and it’s not plugged in.

I just wanted to make a thread here.

After googling I found this :


Window server is the culprit. I didn’t find a solution.
Somebody made a clean install, but I don’t want to do that, maybe if 13.2 releases next week it will get fixed.

I have a MacBook Pro m1 2020 that worked fine until Ventura.
When I have my MacBook in my backpack at school or work it is draining my battery.
 

maerz001

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Nov 2, 2010
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How many days u have it? The first few days my MB was busy with spotlight indexing and picture processing resulting in half the battery life. (About 900GB of data)
 

Novius89

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Nov 1, 2020
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I am noticing the same in “sleep mode” when I close my MacBook and it’s not plugged in.

I just wanted to make a thread here.

After googling I found this :


Window server is the culprit. I didn’t find a solution.
Somebody made a clean install, but I don’t want to do that, maybe if 13.2 releases next week it will get fixed.

I have a MacBook Pro m1 2020 that worked fine until Ventura.
When I have my MacBook in my backpack at school or work it is draining my battery.
I’ve read this is could be an issue on macOS before.

I hope the next update will solve it,if not I will need to do a fresh install :(
 

rickeames

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How many days u have it? The first few days my MB was busy with spotlight indexing and picture processing resulting in half the battery life. (About 900GB of data)
I've had this a year, so it shouldn't be that.
 

rickeames

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So these are the processes listed as preventing sleep -- So I guess when I close my lid, I'm actually not sleeping then. That would at least explain the 25% drop overnight. Question is: how do I fix these?
 

TSE

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Jun 25, 2007
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I had a 14" MacBook Pro with the 64 GBs of RAM and 32-Core M1 Max that my previous company sent me.

While the battery wasn't *terrible*, it also wasn't great. I really wasn't convinced with Apple Silicon battery life until I got the M1 MacBook Air (gave to my wife) and now M2 MacBook Air. So much better.

It's still amazing what they did with the 14" MacBook Pro and M1 Max. But Apple cannot beat the laws of physics. More energy consumption from a professional level CPU & GPU + smaller battery = less battery life.
 
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Yebubbleman

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The MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021) with the M1 Max is already an insult to injury when it comes to both thermals and battery life. Like, the M1 Pro version already commanded the weakest battery life out of the entire Apple Silicon laptop lineup. The M1 Max version only makes that worse (as an M1 Max on anything is always going to generate more heat and expend more battery life in the process). Review sites and channels have often recommended against this combination for this reason and I pretty much concur. Not to make you feel bad about your purchasing choices, per se. More that, I believe this sort of thing is par for the course.

The M1 Max was definitely designed and engineered with the Mac Studio (2022) and MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) in mind, first and foremost.
 

Novius89

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Nov 1, 2020
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Updated macOS immediately yesterday.

used the MacBook and opened all the programs and safari tabs i have open on a regular basis.
unplugged the thing and closed the lid when I go to bed.

it only lost 1% in the night, so at least for now it goes into sleep mode again without any battery drain, I will check the next days what happens during the day and upcoming nights!
 

rickeames

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Mine, also updated, still dropped from 100% to 80% without being opened from 9pm to 6am this morning.
 

rickeames

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Mar 12, 2008
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The MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021) with the M1 Max is already an insult to injury when it comes to both thermals and battery life. Like, the M1 Pro version already commanded the weakest battery life out of the entire Apple Silicon laptop lineup. The M1 Max version only makes that worse (as an M1 Max on anything is always going to generate more heat and expend more battery life in the process). Review sites and channels have often recommended against this combination for this reason and I pretty much concur. Not to make you feel bad about your purchasing choices, per se. More that, I believe this sort of thing is par for the course.

The M1 Max was definitely designed and engineered with the Mac Studio (2022) and MacBook Pro (16-inch, 2021) in mind, first and foremost.
Total battery is fine -- I knew when I got the 14 I was choosing portability over battery life. I'm complaining about when the stupid thing is doing nothing and it still loses charge over night. My ugly ass Surface laptop can sit closed for a week and drop a small percent or two. If I left my Mac over a weekend, I'm sure I'd be < 50% when I returned.

There are things preventing sleep, and I can't figure out, nor find, why they are preventing sleep and how to stop them.
 

shardey

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Jan 28, 2010
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I am noticing the same in “sleep mode” when I close my MacBook and it’s not plugged in.

I just wanted to make a thread here.

After googling I found this :


Window server is the culprit. I didn’t find a solution.
Somebody made a clean install, but I don’t want to do that, maybe if 13.2 releases next week it will get fixed.

I have a MacBook Pro m1 2020 that worked fine until Ventura.
When I have my MacBook in my backpack at school or work it is draining my battery.
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So these are the processes listed as preventing sleep -- So I guess when I close my lid, I'm actually not sleeping then. That would at least explain the 25% drop overnight. Question is: how do I fix these?
Looks like the issue that Novius89 posted is what you are experiencing.

Found a person on reddit that stated "The process still prevents sleep as shown in Activity Monitor, but apparently the process will prevent sleep as long as there are open "windows" on your mac, so if you happen to close all windows before putting your mac to sleep, it will go to sleep".
 

kp98077

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Oct 26, 2010
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I have both the 14 PM and 14 Pro, not sure what's happened with the PM, but the battery does seem down a bit. Where the Pro the battery seems better? It last me all day easily... anyone else seeing this?
 

ChedNasad

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You can go into recovery mode and reinstall Mac OS without erasing your files or config. It just reinstalls the components of the OS itself. I would still make a time machine backup before doing so though. If that doesnt resolve it you may have to go full nuclear on it and actually erase the drive, reinstall, and then restore from backup.
 

shardey

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Jan 28, 2010
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I have both the 14 PM and 14 Pro, not sure what's happened with the PM, but the battery does seem down a bit. Where the Pro the battery seems better? It last me all day easily... anyone else seeing this?
You know this thread was started for a Macbook Pro and not an iPhone?
 
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Novius89

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Nov 1, 2020
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Looks like the issue that Novius89 posted is what you are experiencing.

Found a person on reddit that stated "The process still prevents sleep as shown in Activity Monitor, but apparently the process will prevent sleep as long as there are open "windows" on your mac, so if you happen to close all windows before putting your mac to sleep, it will go to sleep".
Yeah, beats the whole purpose of sleep mode :p.
I love Apple but sometimes it just doesn't work!

I had the same with Ipad sidecar, worked for a while, then i just didn't, then i get a notification out of nowwhere that ipad disabled the wifi for stable sidecar connection and it works perfect now!

So let's hope apple fixes this out of nowhere, because closing all open windows is stupid!
 

nickguy

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Jul 5, 2012
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Just got round to installing Ventura on my 2018 Air. 8.2, Same issue. Sleep sometimes works but usually by the morning the battery is discharged. Changes seem irrelevant, turning off bluetooth, closing windows, turning off sharing, blah blah. Activity monitor points at WindowServer, a little ironic as it is kind of useless info, in that it is not something you can do without. Reminds me of a Windows. So WindowServer is the process that is preventing but after a reboot it will sleep even with the WindowServer flag indicating yes. Just seems like redoing the code for sleep and energy savings has somehow borked sleep. This is the very first time I have considered rolling back with an Apple OS upgrade. Will hope it gets fixed and in the meantime I guess I will turn off the laptop when not in use. Going to let it percolate for a couple of days as I notice interesting indexing lapses like messages not reading my contacts so perhaps the new OS needs to settle in.
 
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