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SkinnyMoose

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Mcafee Total Protection
MacOS Sonoma fully updated to latest version
Intel i-7 2020

Problem 1) Firewall refuses to be turned on. In Mcafee firewall settings, unlock, enable firewall, relock, does turn on.
Uninstall Mcafee, restart, reinstall, firewall still does not turn on.

Problem 2) Mcafee website Mcafee Total Protection includes VPN. But Mcafee Total Protection application does not have any VPN mentioned in any menu or settings.
 

bogdanw

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Problem 1) Firewall refuses to be turned on. In Mcafee firewall settings, unlock, enable firewall, relock, does turn on.
Uninstall Mcafee, restart, reinstall, firewall still does not turn on.
You need to authorize the Network extension to run. Open System Settings - Privacy & Security and Allow
To check if Mcafee’s extension is installed and running, from Terminal run:
Code:
systemextensionsctl list
 

chevyboy60013

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First of all, WHY would you ever run any of their products on anything? Especially on a mac?

Mac's do NOT need av software, as there are no true viruses on the macOS platform. I have never used any av software on any of my macs, including my mom's mac mini that the latest version of macOS it supports is high sierra, and she does not want me to do the OCLP patch to run something later. Never had a problem.

Most av software for a mac does nothing but cripple how the system works, and causes problems.
 

ipaqrat

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as there are no true viruses on the macOS platform.
Flat WRONG. There are quite a few viral exploits coded up for Unix/Linux generally, and Mac's specifically, trojans and worms, too. Every MacOS has CVEs logged against it. Maybe not like Windows, but still, plenty. Furthermore, owing to Microsoft's inclusion of VB in the Office suite, there's a vector for script kiddies.
Never had a problem.
Most users won't have a malware problem. If problems were a 1:1 certainty, conversations about tech in general would be very different. On the other hand, most users wouldn't realize they've been pwned. Really shrewd malware operators do not inflict acute harm on their victims in obvious ways, such as stealing money, ransoming data, identity theft, etc. The really clever ones silently enroll victims' computers in command and control networks, and use them as storage and distribution nodes. Occasionally, a node might be harvested or killed if the return is worth it, like if there's decent coin to exfil, or industrial intel finds a buyer.

In almost every case, though, the system user is involved to at least make contact or receive the first malicious payload. THAT'S the point where the Mac's inbuilt defenses can be compromised. Once a user engages, the malware is off to the races. And of the user operates with admin permissions, it's even easier. And some users are so frustrated by warnings that they DISABLE MacOS safeguards altogether. Ludicrous, right?

The debatable value of running on-access virus scanners at intake points - such as messaging and removable media - is that it might screen for the Windows payloads and clean them up a bit. MS Office and Acrobat PDF files are notorious for trojan exploits, even though statistically, most wouldn't execute on a Mac, prolly even fewer now on M-Silicon.

Regardless of safeguards in the OS, we each have to keep our end of the deal (a deal most folks don't realize they signed with all the devils). That means upgrading to keep patching current and keeping up-to-date safeguards fully engaged. Anyone too defiant, or too complacent, to keep their side of the street clean, is part of the problem.
 
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chevyboy60013

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The majority of viruses will not affect a mac, but can be a carrier. It is not my concern to protect my workplace from malware, and I will not cripple my laptop just to comply with the office policy, as they have no authority just as no government has any authority
 

HDFan

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Mac's do NOT need av software, as there are no true viruses on the macOS platform.


 

ipaqrat

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The majority of viruses will not affect a mac, but can be a carrier. It is not my concern to protect my workplace from malware, and I will not cripple my laptop just to comply with the office policy, as they have no authority just as no government has any authority
No commentary so far has argued that one should be compelled to run supplementary persistent on-access anti-malware scanners, or that personal PCs must be handled to enterprise standards. MacOS (and browser security controls, to varying extents) contains adequate security tools.

However, statements that "there are no true viruses on the macOS platform," are emphatically wrong, and should not be left uncorrected. It's nice that you haven't sensed malware pathologies on your gear, and, of course, we all hope you and yours remain lucky that way. The plain truths for other objective readers is simple:
  1. There ARE loads of viruses, trojans and worms coded for Macs.
  2. Even when typical malware symptoms aren't obvious, any computer might still be pwned.
  3. Don't disable the inbuilt safeguards in MacOS, despite the frustration they can cause.
  4. The effectiveness of MacOS' safeguards depends on patching and updates.
  5. Be skeptical when clicking and downloading, regardless of the OS security tools.
  6. You're still not safe.
  7. Just use card catalogs.
  8. And typewriters.
  9. And corded telephones.
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bogdanw

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The majority of viruses will not affect a mac, but can be a carrier.
Most av software for a mac does nothing but cripple how the system works, and causes problems.

By your claims, Apple should remove XProtect, it's crippling macOS.

"macOS includes built-in antivirus technology called XProtect" https://support.apple.com/guide/security/sec469d47bd8/web

"XProtect stealing RAM randomly every day? (xprotectremediatorsheepswap)"
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...very-day-xprotectremediatorsheepswap.2419907/
 

ipaqrat

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Ribbons are keystroke loggers.

No protection from phishing (and political advertising).

;)
😵‍💫 Err mah gerd yur rite...
10. On your typewriter, type only ciphertext Navajo.
11. Do key exchanges, personally, at the beach, writing in sand at low tide, when there are no satellites or drones overhead.
12. Do like government would, and simply reclassify typewriter ribbons as a backup mechanism.
13. Have calls screened by an answering service using corded phones, no logging, and staffed with free climbers, kite surfers, base jumpers and wingsuit pilots, for whom there's an elevated chance of dying soon with any knowledge of call history.

There's gotta be a way to get this done 🤓
 
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