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grahamperrin

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2014

… a significant step forward at last week's Worldwide Developers Conference with the company making a number changes such as loosening non-disclosure restrictions

2015


– and for posterity, my first capture in the Internet Archive Wayback Machine:
Non-authenticated, but not unlimited

https://developer.apple.com/devforums/ states:

Apple Developer Program membership is required to access certain features of the developer forums

– so, for example, searches of forum content are not performed without authentication.

Those limitations aside, I guess that Apple quietly decided to make content generally available to the public whilst focus was on WWDC.

Perceived confidentiality

At https://developer.apple.com/support/forums/ under Be Topical:

Only discuss seeds in the confidential forums.

Some of the published content may be inconsistent with that suggestion, and with contributors' perceptions of part 6 of the Apple Developer Forums 
Participation Agreement (EA1279, 2015-06-02). For that apparent inconsistency, there's an Apple Developer Program access issue (case 822736071).

Openness

Before posting this, I refrained for a few hours. A personal e-mail to someone at Apple, coupled with the report of the access issue (the inconsistency).

Then I found https://twitter.com/olebegemann/status/608186517295665152 – more than thirty-six hours ago and retweeted by more than a hundred people – and later yesterday, WWDC 2015: Interesting Tidbits and Links – MacStories, so it's reasonable to assume that most of the openness is both:
  • intended by Apple; and
  • known to the authors whose posts are published
– there is encouragement to use a pseudonym, or words to that effect.
 

grahamperrin

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I wonder whether contributors are aware of the degrees of publicity.

https://forums.developer.apple.com/thread/3330#5657 wondered about publicly indexable content; someone responded:

Apple forbids any use of any content on any of its web sites.

That response, verbatim, is publicly indexed :)

In a topic elsewhere, one of the threads resulted in a question about the beta/pre-release forum, that thread appears to ends with a link to the page where Apple advises:

Only discuss seeds in the confidential forums.

– unless I'm missing something, no group realisation that for the five seed spaces below, forum content is visible to the public, indexed by Google and so on:
  • iOS 8.4 beta
  • iOS 9 beta
  • OS X 10.10.4 beta
  • OS X 10.11 beta
  • watchOS 2 beta.
https://forums.developer.apple.com/message/9879#9879 there's a realisation:

… relaxing their attitude towards public discussion of beta APIs.
 
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grahamperrin

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How dare you presume that I am the same person as myself. Why, I've never heard of such a thing. I'm outraged by the very implication. In all my days I've never been the same person. Not even once. I utterly reject the possibility.

Land sakes, what is this world coming to? I tell you what.

:)

Land sakes? Oh my giddy aunt.

And the giddier aunt of the two selves of RedBear.

Last but not least, Giddiest Auntie Google and Her use of forbidden content:
2015-06-24 04-17-35 screenshot.png


(The long period of moderation may be associated with posting a link to a non-Apple site.)

Postscript

Saturday 2015-06-27, I see that moderators allowed the post.
 
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