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metapunk2077fail

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At 45 watts


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Kpjoslee

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SImilar single core as M1. So half the multicore at the same wattage, looks like?
I wouldn't expect it would score lower than 11800h on MT. It also probably won't do great on single channel of DDR4 3200 lol. It just looks like early test sample score and probably won't mean much other than telling us that the product exists.
 

bobcomer

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I wouldn't expect it would score lower than 11800h on MT. It also probably won't do great on single channel of DDR4 3200 lol. It just looks like early test sample score and probably won't mean much other than telling us that the product exists.
It's not even as fast as an i9-9980HK multicore. (And quite a bit slower than 10's and 11's)

But no matter, I wont be buying that processor, I want thin and light in a laptop. I wonder what the i5's and i7's will score...
 
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metapunk2077fail

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SImilar single core as M1. So half the multicore at the same wattage, looks like?

Looks like it was throttling or something. The lower clocked i7 12700H got a better score but Geekbench isn't reporting the max clock speed properly.

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jdb8167

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Na, that’s way too low. I expect final results to be around 10-12K.
Unless it is really power limited to 45 W then it might be accurate. Would be a very small and light ultra-book. Close to the M1 MBA and probably somewhat similar battery life. Just a guess though.

Edit: notebookcheck seems to be calling the Lenovo notebook a gaming notebook but with a 11480 OpenCL benchmark that doesn’t seem to make sense.
 
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senttoschool

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Makes more sense. Around M1 Max performance at around 10% higher wattage and much higher clock speed.
It's not 10% higher wattage. All AMD/Intel CPUs boost much higher than their stated TDP.

Their 45w Tiger Lake CPU boosted to 89w, basically double the stated TDP.

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If ADL boosts to 90w as well, it's ~1/3 as efficient as an M1 Pro/Max which is about where I expect it to be.
 
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It's not 10% higher wattage. All AMD/Intel CPUs boost much higher than their stated TDP.

Their 45w Tiger Lake CPU boosted to 89w, basically double the stated TDP.

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If ADL boosts to 90w as well, it's ~1/3 as efficient as an M1 Pro/Max which is about where I expect it to be.
Ok. When he said 45 I assumed that meant 45 measured.
 

Gerdi

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Ok. When he said 45 I assumed that meant 45 measured.

He most likely meant PL1 (aka TDP). Thing is - Intel CPUs are using PL2 when running short bursty workloads like Geekbench. PL2 is typically much higher than PL1.

In any case, the posted score is apparently without any power measurement.
 
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leman

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OK, but real wattage? It will not be 30W as M1 Pro/Max CPU

Probably around 70-80W on average. GB5 multidirectional is short enough to enable a decent boost.

Unless it is really power limited to 45 W then it might be accurate. Would be a very small and light ultra-book. Close to the M1 MBA and probably somewhat similar battery life. Just a guess though.

ADL seems to be fairly efficient at lower wattages, with a hard 45W limit I’d still expect at least 8K GB5 from the 6+8 config.
 

metapunk2077fail

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Wccftech has written an article about the benchmarks of the future Intel laptop CPUs.
Remove that site from your bookmarks. They repost nearly all their content from others and push the worst scams. Sometimes you click on one of their articles and just see PR fluff and can't figure out where the story is.
 
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metapunk2077fail

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Makes more sense. Around M1 Max performance at around 10% higher wattage and much higher clock speed.

The Intels above have 80% higher clock speed, probably up to twice the power consumption and more cores. It's a pretty poor showing if they are trying to impress. Good for desktop but not mobile.
 
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senttoschool

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Remember some of you are comparing full package power usage of the M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max (full SoC with RAM etc.) to just the power usage of the Intel processor.
Yes, this is worth mentioning.

In my last screenshot, the deep blue line is the total package power, which I assume includes GPU, all the engines, and the RAM. Meanwhile, Intel measures only the CPU.

Unfortunately, the CPU-only light blue line is really hard to see.
 

leman

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Looks good until you see 14 cores and 4.8Ghz. They are miles behind Apple Silicon.

Why that? I mean, Intel is behind on efficiency, sure. But it’s still a very compelling product for the mobile market. And it will be faster than Apple Silicon for certain niche throughput-oriented workloads (of course at the expense of enwrgy usage).

I assumed the 14 cores was a b.s. number that treats thread support as additions cores

No, that’s the actual cores. There are 20 threads.
 
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Why that? I mean, Intel is behind on efficiency, sure. But it’s still a very compelling product for the mobile market. And it will be faster than Apple Silicon for certain niche throughput-oriented workloads (of course at the expense of enwrgy usage).



No, that’s the actual cores. There are 20 threads.

That’s a lot of cores given the apparent multicore performance.
 
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