Mobile me is a waste...why did they do this?

[Edrubin]

So I have downloaded the free trial version of mobileme. The push calendar and contacts is nice, but the email is a joke. The only way to get push email for my 4 email addresses is to have them forwarded to me me.com email. The problem with that is I can then not reply using my other emails and can only reply using me.com. Why would apple limit it that way? This sucks...I was so excited, but glad I got the trial version first.

Eddie

 

[ee99ee]

Give them the weekend, try next week. They'll work bugs out.

I'm such a mac fan boy. If this were Microsoft, I would have thrown my PCs (of which I have none) out the window and be running Linux. Aren't we all pathetic hypocrites? Isn't it great? haha...

 

[kolax]

Push Email is from Apple servers - the other 4 email accounts, whoever hosts them is responsible for providing Push Email support.

I'm sure any other bugs will be ironed out by Monday.

 

[Edrubin]

talked to a Apple Guy...this sucks

SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push. They can only be forwarded to @me.com to get the push feature. This sucks because if you forward them to @me.com you can't reply from the specific email.

 

[tivoboy]

certainly

certainly, in the future they will upgrade MM to allow a "reply from" address field change and authentication.

 

[fat phil]

Been a while since I've used mail forwarding, but is the original email address not stored in the mail header?

If so, then it should be fairly trivial for Apple to support reply-to's inherited from the forwarded mail.

So easy to say it when you don't have to do it heh.

 

[EricNau]

SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push. They can only be forwarded to @me.com to get the push feature. This sucks because if you forward them to @me.com you can't reply from the specific email.

Naturally. Apple only has control over their servers; they can't control the servers of your other email providers, and never promised to.

 

[cwosigns]

So I have downloaded the free trial version of mobileme. The push calendar and contacts is nice, but the email is a joke. The only way to get push email for my 4 email addresses is to have them forwarded to me me.com email. The problem with that is I can then not reply using my other emails and can only reply using me.com. Why would apple limit it that way? This sucks...I was so excited, but glad I got the trial version first.

Eddie

I don't understand why people who have non-Mac email addresses get so upset and blame APPLE because their email isn't pushed to their iPhone. Apple didn't limit anything; they designed a solution for THEIR email service. It's not Apple's fault that your other four email accounts don't push to your iPhone. Yahoo made it happen.

And Apple never stated anywhere that MobileMe would enable your other email accounts to get pushed to the iPhone.

 

[rtmadden]

Is it not possible to use a different outgoing server?

 

[tivoboy]

not a problem

Been a while since I've used mail forwarding, but is the original email address not stored in the mail header?

If so, then it should be fairly trivial for Apple to support reply-to's inherited from the forwarded mail.

So easy to say it when you don't have to do it heh.

It isn't a problem of know what the email address is, it is a question of being able to authenticate for the SMTP server for that other mail account.

 

[cwosigns]

This was posted in another thread:

Another one - the ability to select which Mail account you want to send from in each email, regardless of the account/mailbox you're in at the time - very useful!

Which got me thinking...if you get MobileMe and have it push .me email to your account, you can set your other email accounts to forward to MobileMe and NOT leave a copy on the server (if your provider allows this). Then when you reply, you could choose whatever email account the email was sent to and it would use that account to send your reply.

Would that work for you?

I've just always used .Mac and don't need a workaround.

 

[Sky Blue]

SO I talked to a guy at apple. The only way to get push email is through the @me.com email. You can not set up any other emails to receive push.

Of course, you can't. How would Apple be responsible for other email server? That makes no sense.

 

[GuillaumeB]

An alternative for you is to purchase Yahoo Mail Plus which give you push but also let you set up an external email address within the webmail AS WELL AS a from-line customization

Also with mobileme you still are able to customize the SMTP settings on a desktop mail client or on the iPhone. I currently forward Google Apps to me.com and use my personal email address o compose messages.

Therefore this limitation is only for the web interface

 

[tallyho]

Therefore this limitation is only for the web interface

I haven't worked through the method you're using, but what happens to sent messages? Ideally what I'd like is for emails sent from my iPhone (once I get one) to appear in the sent messages folder on the web interface and Mail.app on my three macs, and vice-versa. Does your method achieve this, or is my only option to just resign myself to a complete switch to my new @me.com email address?

EDIT: and to answer the OPs question, I can only assume that Apple wants the @me.com addresses to be a sort of viral-marketing tool to promote their MobileMe service. I guess if they let people use other email addresses, nobody would know they are using MobileMe and Apple just can't do without the publicity. Annoying, but I guess that must be the reason.

 

[NewGenAdam]

I thought it automatically got the accounts loaded into Mail (OS X) and updated that to your iPhone. But it's not working for me. Which really sucks.
I'll give them a few days, but if it's still dodgy I'll be back to Google's fantastic suite of online apps.

 

[EricNau]

Is it not possible to use a different outgoing server?

You can, but not through Mobile Me. That would be like using a different outgoing server with Gmail ...it just doesn't make sense.

 

[chancee]

I don't understand why people who have non-Mac email addresses get so upset and blame APPLE because their email isn't pushed to their iPhone. Apple didn't limit anything; they designed a solution for THEIR email service. It's not Apple's fault that your other four email accounts don't push to your iPhone. Yahoo made it happen.

And Apple never stated anywhere that MobileMe would enable your other email accounts to get pushed to the iPhone.

Are you kidding?! Here, I'll explain why people were expecting this: because Apple made a big deal about Mobile Me being compatible with a PC and Outlook. Are we supposed to assume Apple thought there was just this huge subset of PC users who were dying to have a .mac/.me email address? Because if you're a PC user it's very doubtful you have or want a .me email address. Apple is delusional if they think PC users are going to be so wowed by Mobile Me that they pay 100 bucks a year to ditch the email addresses they've had for years and only use .Me

 

[wolfpackfan]

I am surprised how slow the web Mobile Me is. It is much slower than Gmail and Google Calendar. I hope this is just a temporary problem. If not, come 60 days and I'm canceling. The main reason I signed up was to use the web version and have it sync with my iPhone.

 

[sananda]

Are you kidding?! Here, I'll explain why people were expecting this: because Apple made a big deal about Mobile Me being compatible with a PC and Outlook. Are we supposed to assume Apple thought there was just this huge subset of PC users who were dying to have a .mac/.me email address? Because if you're a PC user it's very doubtful you have or want a .me email address. Apple is delusional if they think PC users are going to be so wowed by Mobile Me that they pay 100 bucks a year to ditch the email addresses they've had for years and only use .Me

that's a completely circular argument.

 

[cwosigns]

Are you kidding?! Here, I'll explain why people were expecting this: because Apple made a big deal about Mobile Me being compatible with a PC and Outlook. Are we supposed to assume Apple thought there was just this huge subset of PC users who were dying to have a .mac/.me email address? Because if you're a PC user it's very doubtful you have or want a .me email address. Apple is delusional if they think PC users are going to be so wowed by Mobile Me that they pay 100 bucks a year to ditch the email addresses they've had for years and only use .Me

And MobileMe is compatible with PCs and Outlook 2003/2007. For people to expect more than what it was advertised to be is stupidity on their part, not Apple's.

 

[tomccabe]

It isn't a problem of know what the email address is, it is a question of being able to authenticate for the SMTP server for that other mail account.

doesn't seem like much of a problem from the MM settings on the iphone. so it seems like the only reason you can't choose a send-from email is apple's ego as suggested above. i would gladly spend $99/yr on this if it was looking out for ME and not APPLE. all i've asked for as far as iphone updates have been to do the simple things that i thought i'd be able to do when i got rid of my BB.

thejokeson@me.com

 

[obxbound]

I am with you. Sorry, but its a JOKE!

I used Microsoft Exchange and this is NOT exchange for the rest of us. Its an overpriced piece of software.

 

[tomccabe]

I am with you. Sorry, but its a JOKE!

I used Microsoft Exchange and this is NOT exchange for the rest of us. Its an overpriced piece of software.

$100/yr to have your contacts, bookmarks and calendars synched LOL!! Sad, i was totally ready to pay that and money for more storage. no use to me now. they're going to have to get a lot more 3g's in stock to pay for this bomb.

 

[slevit1]

Some of you need to get over yourselves. If you don't like MobileMe, then don't sign up for it. You're buying an APPLE product in both the iPhone and MobileMe. If you don't like them, then look elsewhere. For now, there are very few (if any) ways for someone without an exchange server to get push e-mail, contacts, and calendar. Apple has provided that solution, for a fairly reasonable price.

Don't forget that MobileMe does an awful lot more than push services and e-mail. If, for some reason that is beyond me, you have decided to stick with using a PC, then you're just gonna have to deal with what Apple has given you...things they supply that no other company thus far has been able to figure out. But, for those with a mac (because again, this is an APPLE product that we're talking about), there are far more benefits to the service.

 

[thechidz]

I really have absolutely no need for mobile me with my iphone and mbp... but thats just me. it looks cool but I have more than enough functionality now... Im a happy camper