Mojave to Big Sur?

[jk73]

I've been an Apple user since the 1980s and an iPhone user since the first week in 2007, and for the first time ever, I've skipped an entire version of both the OS and the iOS. (I was on the road for about nine months straight, and then, when I was about to take the plunge, I saw people still complaining about bugs in the new Music app and some email issues in Catalina, so I kept holding off.)

I understand there were some fairly big changes from Mojave to Catalina when it comes to the Music app, and I really don't want, e.g., album art for ~12,000 songs to go AWOL. Doing that job once was plenty.

What do the experts here suggest? Should I go straight from Mojave to Big Sur (when released) or should I upgrade to Catalina first as an interim update? Is the Music app better in Big Sur than it seems to be in Catalina? Is there anything I should beware of when upgrading to Big Sur from Mojave?

Thanks very much.

 

[duanepatrick]

The question is, is your device compatible in the first place? There are macs that can run Catalina but not compatible with Big Sur.

• 2012 and Early 2013 MacBook Pro
• 2012 MacBook Air
• 2012 and 2013 iMac
• 2012 Mac mini

A complete reference about Big Sur was posted here in MacRumors last time. Check this link: https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/macos-big-sur/

 

[colodane]

I also plan to skip Catalina and go from Mojave to Big Sur. But will wait until the first major update after the release version, assuming it is getting good feedback from other users. I did the same thing previously, jumping from Sierra to Mojave, and that went well.

 

[timidpimpin]

I've been an Apple user since the 1980s and an iPhone user since the first week in 2007, and for the first time ever, I've skipped an entire version of both the OS and the iOS. (I was on the road for about nine months straight, and then, when I was about to take the plunge, I saw people still complaining about bugs in the new Music app and some email issues in Catalina, so I kept holding off.)

I understand there were some fairly big changes from Mojave to Catalina when it comes to the Music app, and I really don't want, e.g., album art for ~12,000 songs to go AWOL. Doing that job once was plenty.

What do the experts here suggest? Should I go straight from Mojave to Big Sur (when released) or should I upgrade to Catalina first as an interim update? Is the Music app better in Big Sur than it seems to be in Catalina? Is there anything I should beware of when upgrading to Big Sur from Mojave?

Thanks very much.

You don't have a Time Machine backup? If you did then your butt is covered if things go awry. Trying the unknown is the best way to learn.

Also, I'm a little shocked that someone who has used Apple since 1980 needs to be spoon fed things. You should be the one teaching all of us with all that experience.

 

[jk73]

The question is, is your device compatible in the first place? ...

Yes, it's an MBP from 2017. I should have mentioned that.

Thanks for the link.

I also plan to skip Catalina and go from Mojave to Big Sur. But will wait until the first major update after the release version, assuming it is getting good feedback from other users. I did the same thing previously, jumping from Sierra to Mojave, and that went well.

Right, I'll probably wait for the first update as well. I just hope the reviews aren't as bad as with Catalina. There have always been complaints with each new OS, but I don't recall the volume of complaints ever being this high, almost a year later, as I've seen with Catalina. (I know plenty of people here are happy with Catalina and didn't have problems.)

You don't have a Time Machine backup? If you did then your butt is covered if things go awry. Trying the unknown is the best way to learn.

Yes, but I've barely had time for updates this year. I'm trying to avoid the dreaded update and then downgrade.

Also, I'm a little shocked that someone who has used Apple since 1980 needs to be spoon fed things. You should be the one teaching all of us with all that experience.

I answered this in my original message. I have zero experience with skipping an entire version of the OS. Until this year, I don't believe I had ever missed even a dot-dot.

 

[timidpimpin]

I've skipped 5 versions, and it went flawlessly. In 2016 I upgraded from 10.6 to 10.11. But if you need any type of 32 bit capability, then you're already where that support stopped.

Mojave will still get security updates for another year at least, if not two years. I'd just stay on Mojave.

 

[duanepatrick]

Just wait until Big Sure becomes stable. The first release is always a mess both on macOS and iOS. And there are no problems if you skipped versions.

I am planning to stay in Catalina for awhile.

 

[CLS7]

Just wait until Big Sure becomes stable. The first release is always a mess both on macOS and iOS. And there are no problems if you skipped versions.

I am planning to stay in Catalina for awhile.

I will also stay on Catalina for long time. I hope it is possible to block the upgrade of Big Sur when it has been released, so the annoying red badge not will show up.

 

[Mr Todhunter]

I will stay with Mojave because Big Sur offers nothing that I need, but I’m testing the Big Sur betas just because I think it’s fun. I can assure you that you can safely install and use iTunes instead of the Music app (which is an abomination)

 

[MiamiBeach]

I will stay with Mojave because Big Sur offers nothing that I need, but I’m testing the Big Sur betas just because I think it’s fun. I can assure you that you can safely install and use iTunes instead of the Music app (which is an abomination)

I would like to have iTunes once I install the public release of Big Sur. Do you recommend any particular site with good instructions to look at on how to do this? Thank you!

 

[Mr Todhunter]

I would like to have iTunes once I install the public release of Big Sur. Do you recommend any particular site with good instructions to look at on how to do this? Thank you!

Releases · cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive

Retroactive has been discontinued. You should transition from Retroactive to supported apps such as Music, iTunes for Windows, iMazing, Photos, Darktable, Lightroom Classic, and DaVinci Resolve. - ...

github.com

Retroactive does if for you.

 

[MiamiBeach]

Releases · cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive

Retroactive has been discontinued. You should transition from Retroactive to supported apps such as Music, iTunes for Windows, iMazing, Photos, Darktable, Lightroom Classic, and DaVinci Resolve. - ...

github.com

Retroactive does if for you.

Thank you, am bookmarking this site for when I update my system to Big Sur. Looks very easy and straightforward.

 

[Mr Todhunter]

Thank you, am bookmarking this site for when I update my system to Big Sur. Looks very easy and straightforward.

It is indeed very easy and straightforward

 

[Nazwisko]

Also, I'm a little shocked that someone who has used Apple since 1980 needs to be spoon fed things. You should be the one teaching all of us with all that experience.

And I'm a little shocked you cannot stick to the topic. As far as I can tell OP did not ask for your approval or disproval of his level of expertise.

 

[duanepatrick]

Releases · cormiertyshawn895/Retroactive

Retroactive has been discontinued. You should transition from Retroactive to supported apps such as Music, iTunes for Windows, iMazing, Photos, Darktable, Lightroom Classic, and DaVinci Resolve. - ...

github.com

Retroactive does if for you.

Is this legit? Can anyone confirm? Am too afraid to download things outside of App Store.

 

[Kakirman]

[QUOTE = "duanepatrick, gönderi: 28998395, üye: 1201715"]
Bu yasal mı? Onaylayan var mı? App Store dışında bir şeyler indirmekten çok korkuyorum.
[/ALINTI]
Why not after security measures have been taken? We cannot know without trying.

 

[iAssimilated]

Is this legit? Can anyone confirm? Am too afraid to download things outside of App Store.

I have read about Retroactive on multiple threads in this forum, so I assume people have used it. I have a Mac with Catalina installed coming next week and one of the first things I am going to try is Retroactive to bring back iTunes.. I'll report back with my findings.

 

[ScreenSavers]

I have read about Retroactive on multiple threads in this forum, so I assume people have used it. I have a Mac with Catalina installed coming next week and one of the first things I am going to try is Retroactive to bring back iTunes.. I'll report back with my findings.

Retroactive works great with iTunes. I used to use it. Enjoy your new Mac

 

[duanepatrick]

I have read about Retroactive on multiple threads in this forum, so I assume people have used it. I have a Mac with Catalina installed coming next week and one of the first things I am going to try is Retroactive to bring back iTunes.. I'll report back with my findings.

This is good to know. Please quote me once you find something. I'm too busy to scour this whole forum.

 

[iAssimilated]

This is good to know. Please quote me once you find something. I'm too busy to scour this whole forum.

Retroactive worked great for me. Mind you, since this is not verified by Apple it will give you multiple prompts about not knowing if this program is malware and untrusted dialog boxes, but once the Retroactive is opened it does install iTunes on Catalina without issue (it actually gives you a choice of multiple versions of iTunes). After the install is done Retroactive gives you an option to see the code that is being ran during installation. Luckily I captured the link for you so you can check it out before hand if you wish.

iTunes 12.6.5.3 on MacOS Catalina 10.15

I'm only interested in the AppStore. If you are not, iTunes 12.9.5 might work better for music. Here is an updated script to get iTunes 12.9.5.5 from Mojave: set theAPP to choose file with prompt "Please select iTunes app:" of type {"app"} do shell script "mkdir ~/tmp" do shell script "ditto "...

forums.macrumors.com

Retroactive can enabled other software as well, so I will circle back and check that out when I have more time.

 

[ThugFreak]

I will also stay on Catalina for long time. I hope it is possible to block the upgrade of Big Sur when it has been released, so the annoying red badge not will show up.

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