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TacticalDesire

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Just curious how likely you guys think this is? Google typically only supports their phones for 18-24 months. The Galaxy Nexus was dropped with 4.3 after 20 months and the Nexus S was dropped with 4.1.2 after 21 months. The Nexus 4 is approaching 2 years old in November and with Motorola's recent track record for providing fast, guaranteed updates (My Moto X got 4.4.3 the day after it was released and got kikat before my nexus 4), how likely is it we will see the Moto X surpass the Nexus 4 with official support? Just something I thought was interesting.
 

kenypowa

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Just curious how likely you guys think this is? Google typically only supports their phones for 18-24 months. The Galaxy Nexus was dropped with 4.3 after 20 months and the Nexus S was dropped with 4.1.2 after 21 months. The Nexus 4 is approaching 2 years old in November and with Motorola's recent track record for providing fast, guaranteed updates (My Moto X got 4.4.3 the day after it was released and got kikat before my nexus 4), how likely is it we will see the Moto X surpass the Nexus 4 with official support? Just something I thought was interesting.

Unlikely. Nexus 4 shares the same (similar) internals as 2013 N7. Besides N4 uses one of the newer Qualcomm processors. Nexus 4 will probably be upgraded to 5.0 and beyond.
 

Lloydbm41

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Just curious how likely you guys think this is? Google typically only supports their phones for 18-24 months. The Galaxy Nexus was dropped with 4.3 after 20 months and the Nexus S was dropped with 4.1.2 after 21 months. The Nexus 4 is approaching 2 years old in November and with Motorola's recent track record for providing fast, guaranteed updates (My Moto X got 4.4.3 the day after it was released and got kikat before my nexus 4), how likely is it we will see the Moto X surpass the Nexus 4 with official support? Just something I thought was interesting.

Besides what was just mentioned, KitKat and beyond OS updates have been designed with lesser hardware requirements as well. That said, Google only promises roughly 18 months of updates. That said, most users probably couldn't tell you what OS update they were on, much less distinguish iOS from Android or a Note 3 from an iPhone 4S. As long as their phone works, they don't care.
 

TacticalDesire

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Besides what was just mentioned, KitKat and beyond OS updates have been designed with lesser hardware requirements as well. That said, Google only promises roughly 18 months of updates. That said, most users probably couldn't tell you what OS update they were on, much less distinguish iOS from Android or a Note 3 from an iPhone 4S. As long as their phone works, they don't care.

I agree. In the grand scheme updates don't really matter. Was just something I thought about.
 

Robstevo

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Google would be kind of shooting themselves in their own foot If they didn't support it....why create a huge amount of buzz at the fact now kit kat supports devices with lot end hard ware...only to drop the nexus 4 when its in that range of hardware ?
 

mattopotamus

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Well if the nexus program is truly coming to an end, maybe they will support it longer.
 

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Still no sign of 4.4.3 on my Nexus 7 2012 or 2013 but my Moto G has been updated.

I'm not sure Google really have that great a track record of support once you factor out the inbuilt benefits the have from being the platform owner.
 

SpoonCody

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It's kind of crazy that the Moto devices are getting the update even before Nexus devices.

I love that my Moto X got 4.4.3 the same exact week it was rolling out to Nexus and GPE devices.

<3 Motorola.

Along with what Technarchy said about carriers offering quicker upgrade plans, the whole "lack of updates" or "slow updates" argument against Android is essentially moot. Not to mention, all the individual updates that Google does to their main apps.

I hope Google doesn't abandon the Nexus 4, though. That would just be stupid.
 

TacticalDesire

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Google would be kind of shooting themselves in their own foot If they didn't support it....why create a huge amount of buzz at the fact now kit kat supports devices with lot end hard ware...only to drop the nexus 4 when its in that range of hardware ?

Well the did that with the Galaxy Nexus and there was a huge uproar. But if I recall the tiOMAP drivers were really to blame which I found strange. If a bunch of XDA devs working in their basement can get 4.4 on the Gnex two multi billion dollar companies should.
 

Lloydbm41

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Well the did that with the Galaxy Nexus and there was a huge uproar. But if I recall the tiOMAP drivers were really to blame which I found strange. If a bunch of XDA devs working in their basement can get 4.4 on the Gnex two multi billion dollar companies should.

As I recall Texas Instruments no longer made the hardware in question, nor would they support the software required. I doubt Google wanted to take on responsibility for TI on a product that already met EOL criteria.
 

gotluck

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It seems like moto and gpe are basically equivalent to nexus as far as updates go now.

Gpe got 4.4.3 the day after nexus 5, moto the same week? Not too shabby

Previously gpe was 2-3 weeks behind nexus.

I think nexus 4 will get support equal to moto x, but you never know!

If I had to give edge to one it'd be the moto x
 
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