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Attonine

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 15, 2006
744
58
Kent. UK
Suddenly, 2 days ago I have started to experience random freezes in mountain lion. The only solution is to reeboot. I maintain control of the curser, can move between desktops, but cannot control any apps and the curser beach balls. As far as I know the only identifiable change to my system around the time of the start of the freezes was an automatic upgrade to Skype. Because of the freezes I am unable to use time machine to attempt a general system rollback, but I have managed to downgrade the skype installation.

I have done a hardware check from the OS disc, all good. I have run Onyx and done all the maintenance I can. I have looked at console but cannot see any reasons for the freeze. I am posing below the console details from the last freeze. If anybody can see anything that is causing the freeze, I would appreciate any help. (I cannot post the console log from the whole session as it is too long to be accepted on the forum!)
 
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justperry

macrumors G5
Aug 10, 2007
12,627
9,933
I'm a rolling stone.
Suddenly, 2 days ago I have started to experience random freezes in mountain lion. The only solution is to reeboot. I maintain control of the curser, can move between desktops, but cannot control any apps and the curser beach balls. As far as I know the only identifiable change to my system around the time of the start of the freezes was an automatic upgrade to Skype. Because of the freezes I am unable to use time machine to attempt a general system rollback, but I have managed to downgrade the skype installation.

I have done a hardware check from the OS disc, all good. I have run Onyx and done all the maintenance I can. I have looked at console but cannot see any reasons for the freeze. I am posing below the console details from the last freeze. If anybody can see anything that is causing the freeze, I would appreciate any help. (I cannot post the console log from the whole session as it is too long to be accepted on the forum!)

Post a panic report, this one does not say much.

Have you tried to login into another account and see what happens there, if you don't have one create a new User Account in User and Groups in System Preferences, then log out and into new User Account, is the problem gone?
 

Attonine

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 15, 2006
744
58
Kent. UK
I have tried using a different user, as the freezes are random it's difficult to say whether the new user is OK. I will persist with this new account for a while longer to see of anything will happen.

Here are the diagnostic and usage messages. Again, I cannot fit the whole session on the forum, so this is the end of the messages (assuming something at the end caused the freeze?!)
 
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justperry

macrumors G5
Aug 10, 2007
12,627
9,933
I'm a rolling stone.
Where do I find the panic report?

I have tied using a different user, as the freezes are random it's difficult to say whether the new user is OK. I will persist with this new account for a while longer to see of anything will happen.

There are two(3) places.

/Library/Logs
~/Home/Library/logs this is the same as /Users/your name/Library/logs.

Just stay in the other for awhile, if there are no crashes there you know 100% it is your normal account where the problems are.
 

throAU

macrumors G3
Feb 13, 2012
9,198
7,353
Perth, Western Australia
A panic should only be caused by a dodgy driver, a kernel bug, or a hardware problem - although it is possible that some normal software may uncover a bug in one of those components (e.g., the recent chrome with the HD4000 driver bug, pixelmator with the recent Nvidia driver bug, etc.)

Even if there is something specific to one account that is triggering the panic, the machine should only panic under the above conditions.

It shouldn't (note: that doesn't necessarily mean it ISN'T possible) be possible for an end user program to panic the kernel - the fact that you're getting panics means that some software component running in kernel mode is causing it, or your hardware is on the way out.






edit:
just re-read the OP - the machine isn't actually panicking by the sound of it - cursor still moves etc. hence there will be no related panic report to find.... the UI failing to respond is different from a panic.
 

Attonine

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 15, 2006
744
58
Kent. UK
Nothing new connected to the system.

The various diagnostic reports folders are empty (?) there is just nothing in them, unless it's hidden somehow.


I should reiterate, yes, I maintain control of the curser, though it is beach balling. I work in Fullscreen mode most of the time, and for example, Safari will freeze, I am able to move through the screens to my regular desktop, but then everything will freeze if I try to click on anything.

I am currently working in a new user account. I am also preparing to have to do a clean install of ML, so am trying to copy various files and folders from the original Home folder just in case..........
 

justperry

macrumors G5
Aug 10, 2007
12,627
9,933
I'm a rolling stone.
I have tried using a different user, as the freezes are random it's difficult to say whether the new user is OK. I will persist with this new account for a while longer to see of anything will happen.

Here are the diagnostic and usage messages. Again, I cannot fit the whole session on the forum, so this is the end of the messages (assuming something at the end caused the freeze?!)

A panic log is similar to this:

Wed Nov 28 18:59:58 2012
panic(cpu 0 caller 0x00111444): "jnl: end_tr: !!!DANGER!!! bp 0x1f23a410 flags (0x101) not LOCKED & DELWRI\n"@/SourceCache/xnu/xnu-1228.15.4/bsd/vfs/vfs_journal.c:2964
Latest stack backtrace for cpu 0:
Backtrace:
0x0009CC88 0x0009D63C 0x00029DA0 0x00111444 0x001117D0 0x0024E23C 0x0024FDAC 0x0025E56C
0x001089A4 0x000F742C 0x000F27B4 0x000F7478 0x003100AC 0x000B4448 0x3C2F696E
Proceeding back via exception chain:
Exception state (sv=0x243ba500)
PC=0x929C58B8; MSR=0x0200F030; DAR=0x0235CFD6; DSISR=0x40000000; LR=0x000027A8; R1=0xBFFFFD90; XCP=0x00000030 (0xC00 - System call)

BSD process name corresponding to current thread: reboot

Mac OS version:
9L31a

Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 9.8.0: Wed Jul 15 16:57:01 PDT 2009; root:xnu-1228.15.4~1/RELEASE_PPC
System model name: PowerBook5,6

System uptime in nanoseconds: 3320560855457
unloaded kexts:
(none)
loaded kexts:
at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch 2.5.0
com.rim.driver.BlackBerryUSBDriverInt 0.0.67
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTrackpad 1.7.4f1 - last loaded 419973065
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyEventDriver 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard 1.7.4f1
com.apple.driver.CSRHIDTransitionDriver 2.1.9f10
com.apple.driver.AppleFileSystemDriver 1.1.0
com.apple.driver.iTunesPhoneDriver 1.0
com.apple.driver.LSI_FW_500 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.Oxford_Semi 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.StorageLynx 2.0.9
com.apple.driver.initioFWBridge 2.0.9
And so on.

You can edit your other posts and delete those reports, only make this thread very long.
 

Attonine

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 15, 2006
744
58
Kent. UK
I don't have anything that looks like a panic report.

Just to be clear, the reports that I have posted are not any help and do not show anything. It is OK to delete them?
 

Attonine

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 15, 2006
744
58
Kent. UK
The new account has just frozen forcing a reboot

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10/12/2012 13:33:15.731 coreaudiod[174]: com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.airplay.device_available
com.apple.message.signature: audio

10/12/2012 13:33:15.731 coreaudiod[174]: com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.airplay.device_available
com.apple.message.signature: screen

10/12/2012 13:33:18.156 Safari[167]: History size and age limit
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.History.HistorySizeAndAgeLimit
com.apple.message.value: 20
com.apple.message.value2: 365

10/12/2012 13:33:19.332 Safari[167]: Web Page visited
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.PageVisited
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:20.044 Safari[167]: Web Page visited
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.PageVisited
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:20.098 Safari[167]: Web Page visited
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.PageVisited
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:22.607 Safari[167]: noop
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.pluginLoaded
com.apple.message.signature: application/x-shockwave-flash
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:22.607 Safari[167]: noop
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.pageContainsAtLeastOnePlugin
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:22.608 Safari[167]: noop
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.pageContainsPlugin
com.apple.message.signature: application/x-shockwave-flash
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:22.710 Safari[167]: noop
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.pluginLoaded
com.apple.message.signature: application/x-shockwave-flash
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:23.815 Safari[167]: noop
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.pluginLoaded
com.apple.message.signature: application/x-shockwave-flash
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:30.112 Safari[167]: Web Page visited
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.PageVisited
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:47.966 Safari[167]: Web Page visited
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.PageVisited
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:33:50.581 Safari[167]: Web Page visited
com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.Safari.PageVisited
com.apple.message.summarize: YES

10/12/2012 13:34:36.189 SystemUIServer[172]: com.apple.message.domain: com.apple.spotlight.menu.search.usage4
com.apple.message.result: pass
com.apple.message.signature: top:APPLICATIONS
com.apple.message.signature4: flashy
 

justperry

macrumors G5
Aug 10, 2007
12,627
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I'm a rolling stone.

Attonine

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 15, 2006
744
58
Kent. UK
The current version of flash is installed.

I can't find any panic reports.
 

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Attonine

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
Feb 15, 2006
744
58
Kent. UK
I hope I'm not speaking too soon. But it looks like the freezes may have been because the Crucial M4 SSD I have is starting to go bad. I managed to clone the SSD onto the original HDD, reinstalled the original, and so far no freezes.

Fingers crossed!

Thanks to everyone for their time and help.
 
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WouterDS

macrumors member
Oct 26, 2011
30
0
Belgium
I have exactly the same issue but I'm still using the original 750GB hdd.
Upgraded yesterday to 10.8.3 but without luck, the issue still exists and it's been only 3 weeks since my last clean install :(. (I have a 15" Macbook Pro early 2011 with OS X ML 10.8.3)
 

kirkbross

macrumors 6502a
Mar 6, 2007
666
22
Los Angeles
I'm having the same issue. From what I understand, it's not hardware related. It is pure Mountain Lion suckery. It's related to the video card but I have found no solution. It's remarkable Apple could get through 5 updates without fixing the issue.

Mavericks is around the corner... hopefully it solves the problem.
 
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