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Peter Franks

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Long winded post for a simple question, Sorry, but I don’t see any point in ‘move to junk’ IF that same email address will still always come to my Inbox.

When you receive a Junk email in ‘Inbox’, I’ve always just slid across to delete, which is what I’ve done for years.

There are a few constants and they are a pain seeing them in the inbox all the time, so I read 'online' if you get junk/spam then slide option, then click the ‘more’ tab, and then ‘move to junk’, I wrongly assumed that in the future, all emails from that particular address would automatically go into the junk? They don’t and still come to the inbox.

Question being….. What is the point of sliding across, clicking ‘more', and then clicking 'move to junk', when it’s quicker just to slide and delete it every time.
 
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now i see it

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As you’ve found, “Move To Junk” moves the email to the junk folder. That’s all. It’s not linked to some sort of machine learning or automatic filtering.
Apparently the big A thinks that some people might want a junk mail collection.

On a “normal” webmail server you can set up filters to automatically catch junk mail that has attributes you’ve defined, but iOS Mail doesn’t let you do that natively.
 
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jav6454

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As you’ve found, “Move To Junk” moves the email to the junk folder. That’s all. It’s not linked to some sort of machine learning or automatic filtering.
Apparently the big A thinks that some people might want a junk mail collection.

On a “normal” webmail server you can set up filters to automatically catch junk mail that has attributes you’ve defined, but iOS Mail doesn’t let you do that natively.
While I agree, there is a slight machine learning as several emails that I always marked as or sent to the junk mail stopped coming in.

Where were they? Straight to the junk folder without any feedback. So perhaps it does happen...
 

Peter Franks

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Thanks for your replies, I just thought there was something/anything making it worth my while of the extra many moves as opposed to just slide and delete, but they just keep on a coming! So slide and delete it will stay then.
 

eyoungren

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Thanks for your replies, I just thought there was something/anything making it worth my while of the extra many moves as opposed to just slide and delete, but they just keep on a coming! So slide and delete it will stay then.
Most of the junk mail I receive comes in to my Yahoo address. That's an email account I hand out when I either expect junk or don't wish a company/entity knowing my ISP email.

Say whatever anyone will about Yahoo (I've had this email account since 1999) it has a very strong junk filter. Yahoo catches it and files it in Junk. When iOS Mail goes out collects mail, it never sees it.

I suppose I could check the junk folder if I wanted to but I rarely go in there. I usually need a shower afterwards.
 
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Peter Franks

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Most of the junk mail I receive comes in to my Yahoo address. That's an email account I hand out when I either expect junk or don't wish a company/entity knowing my ISP email.

Say whatever anyone will about Yahoo (I've had this email account since 1999) it has a very strong junk filter. Yahoo catches it and files it in Junk. When iOS Mail goes out collects mail, it never sees it.

I suppose I could check the junk folder if I wanted to but I rarely go in there. I usually need a shower afterwards.

I agree, Gmail lets a fair few in, Hotmail sends literally every email to 'Junk' regardless of what it is, which I don't use now, and Yahoo does have a hell of a lot of junk IN the junk folder.

Sadly the one I have to use for work is the iOS one, which can't filter junk at all.
 
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Muttx7

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I wondered about this because a lot of the mail I have moved to junk goes there but every now and then one of them slips by and ends up in my in box. I use Yahoo and have two other accounts that I only use for important stuff.
 
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now i see it

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One of the reasons Yahoo has ok junk mail filtering is because they scan the content of every email going through their system for marketing purposes. It’s bad.
 
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eyoungren

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One of the reasons Yahoo has ok junk mail filtering is because they scan the content of every email going through their system for marketing purposes. It’s bad.
Well…they've been scanning all my email since 1999 then. :)

Good thing I don't use my Yahoo account for anything serious.
 
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gtnator

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Long winded post for a simple question, Sorry, but I don’t see any point in ‘move to junk’ IF that same email address will still always come to my Inbox.

When you receive a Junk email in ‘Inbox’, I’ve always just slid across to delete, which is what I’ve done for years.

There are a few constants and they are a pain seeing them in the inbox all the time, so I read 'online' if you get junk/spam then slide option, then click the ‘more’ tab, and then ‘move to junk’, I wrongly assumed that in the future, all emails from that particular address would automatically go into the junk? They don’t and still come to the inbox.

Question being….. What is the point of sliding across, clicking ‘more', and then clicking 'move to junk', when it’s quicker just to slide and delete it every time.
I wish Apple would develop some AI or logic to learn this. If i manually move an email to junk, then the bar for ”machine learning” is pretty damn low cause it did not have to figure it out on its own, it just has to copy what a human did manually. Why doesn’t it?
 
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gtnator

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One of the reasons Yahoo has ok junk mail filtering is because they scan the content of every email going through their system for marketing purposes. It’s bad.
Google/Gmail built their entire suite on this premise, they are an advertising company. They scan every click you make in any of their apps, including gmail.
 
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