MP 7,1 MPX GPUs Prices What does this mean?

[4wdwrx]

Not sure if already posted. Thought I'd share.

Came across OWC discounting open box MPX GPUs and other 7,1 components.

W6900X $3499

Apple MJ103AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6900X MPX Module... at MacSales.com

Apple MJ103AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6900X MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 22.2 teraflops of compute performance. 32GB GDDR6 memory, 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Supports AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

Vega II $869

Apple MW672AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II MPX Module... at MacSales.com

Apple MW672AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 14.1 teraflops of compute performance. 32GB HBM2 memory, 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Supports AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

Vega II Duo $1649

Apple MW732AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo MPX... at MacSales.com

Apple MW732AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 28.3 teraflops of combined compute performance. 64GB HBM2 memory (32GB per GPU), 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Features AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

W6800X $1799

Apple MJ073AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X MPX Module... at MacSales.com

Apple MJ073AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019 - rent). Up to 16 teraflops of compute performance. 32GB GDDR6 memory, 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Supports AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

W6800X Duo $2499

Apple MJ093AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X Duo 64GB MPX... at MacSales.com

Apple MJ093AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X Duo MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 30.2 teraflops of combined compute performance. 64GB GDDR6 memory (32GB per GPU), 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Features AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *Used, Tested Good*

eshop.macsales.com

Afterburner Card $799

Apple MW682AM/A Afterburner Video Accelerator Card... at MacSales.com

Apple MW682AM/A Afterburner Video Accelerator Card for Mac Pro (2019 - Current). Enhance your ProRes workflow! Accelerates ProRes and ProRes RAW video codecs in professional applications such as QuickTime Player X, Final Cut Pro X, and more. *Like New, Tested*

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[Kimmo]

Saw that, too. Very interesting.

Makes me want to jump on a 7,1, upgrade it and be done for awhile,

or not.

Jeez, I'm confused.

 

[deconstruct60]

Not sure if already posted. Thought I'd share.

Came across OWC discounting open box MPX GPUs and other 7,1 components.

Used GPUs. (open box likely isn't not a floor demo. Someone took it for test drive and shipped it back. OWC is a conduit to dump them.

Look at bigger picture:

1. Cryptocraze for GPUs to mini cryto is largely over. There is a glut of other GPUs being dumped into the used market now also. A more than decent number of those cards can fit in a 7,1 . So they are substitutable goods selling at much lower prices. It shouldn't be a shocker to see used MPX modules get dragged backwards in price also.

2. The 'New' market is changing also. Nvidia 4090 won't run in macOS, but also runs circles around these cards. So again where is the overall market value? [ Not that many 4090's would fit, but Nvidia has a Pro card that would/should. ] The AMD 7900 is about a month or so out from also launched. At which point a 6800/6900 is not only open box, but also not the tip of the spear either.

The Mac Pro 2019 native boots Windows 10/11 just fine. By December 2022 a user could be running one of these significantly more affordable cards easy if they fit within the PCI-e standard card size parameters.


3. These MPX modules and Afterburner cards can only work in one Mac product . Even if Apple coasts in Rip van Winkle mode into 2023 while still selling these ... Apple is likely going to declare the transition to Apple Silicon as 'done' by end of 2022. Even if have to point at some hand wavy process to real product replacement. Is it particularly sane to want to be holding onto a sizable amount of inventory of these stuff by the end of the year? Generally , No. [ Maybe some special , super niche value-added-reseller shop , but OWC ? No. ]

W6900X $3499

Apple MJ103AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6900X MPX Module... at MacSales.com

Apple MJ103AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6900X MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 22.2 teraflops of compute performance. 32GB GDDR6 memory, 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Supports AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

No idea why anyone thought this module would hold its value. It is a single Navi 21 die priced higher than a dual (but binned) Navi 21 dies. Other than an Infinity Fabric connector this module's price had the full GPU scaricity more than baked into its price. It was/is a money grab module by Apple.

The $6K price is largely nuts to begin with , so sliding back to $3,499 just means it is flying in the stratosphere.

Vega II $869

Apple MW672AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II MPX Module... at MacSales.com

Apple MW672AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 14.1 teraflops of compute performance. 32GB HBM2 memory, 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Supports AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

Two generation old in a market being flooded with stuff a generation in advance of it. That is suppose to hold a price?

Vega II Duo $1649

Apple MW732AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo MPX... at MacSales.com

Apple MW732AM/A AMD Radeon Pro Vega II Duo MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 28.3 teraflops of combined compute performance. 64GB HBM2 memory (32GB per GPU), 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Features AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

Double still doesn't have most of the utility of a W6800 'solo' .

W6800X $1799

Apple MJ073AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X MPX Module... at MacSales.com

Apple MJ073AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019 - rent). Up to 16 teraflops of compute performance. 32GB GDDR6 memory, 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Supports AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *New, Open Box*

eshop.macsales.com

Not sure what the count was when you posted but only 7 of these. But compared to used 6800 mainstream cards being dropped on market now... that is still a large mark up primarily for Infinity Fabric and Thunderbolt out (because huge sunk coast in some Apple TB 'monitor'. ) . The computation ability isn't holding value.

W6800X Duo $2499

Apple MJ093AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X Duo 64GB MPX... at MacSales.com

Apple MJ093AM/A AMD Radeon Pro W6800X Duo MPX Module for Mac Pro (2019). Up to 30.2 teraflops of combined compute performance. 64GB GDDR6 memory (32GB per GPU), 4 x Thunderbolt 3 ports, 1 x HDMI 2.0 port. Features AMD's Infinity Fabric Link. *Used, Tested Good*

eshop.macsales.com

"buy one old GPU die , get one free". [ Still lower than the discounted W6900X. ]

Afterburner Card $799

Apple MW682AM/A Afterburner Video Accelerator Card... at MacSales.com

Apple MW682AM/A Afterburner Video Accelerator Card for Mac Pro (2019 - Current). Enhance your ProRes workflow! Accelerates ProRes and ProRes RAW video codecs in professional applications such as QuickTime Player X, Final Cut Pro X, and more. *Like New, Tested*

eshop.macsales.com

A Mac Studio runs circles around this and is symmetric ( de/encode ProRes ). The Afterburner card was a 'public' prototype so that Apple could get widespread field testing before they weaved the feature set into their future SoCs. The Prototype phase is over.




Even if there wasn't a 'new' Mac Pro out there looming or end of Intel Macs spectre hovering over the end of 2022. The used MPX modules would have pricing problems. GPU pricing has been on a boom/bust cycle and about to hit the 'bust' phase over next several months.

 

[smckenzie]

I actually took advantage of the OWC sale on the 6800 MPX Duo as I already had one. My 7,1 currently has one 6800Duo in it along with x2 Sonnet 6900XT's, but they are pretty loud and generate some heat. So, figured I would see where two Duo's get me to. From what I can tell they should benchmark in Redshift comparably to the 6900's but without the noise.