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MurphyM

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On a podcast with Tom Merritt the Microsoft expert said, "Actually they do split the stock fairly regularly. In fact, I want to say they’ve done it at least once in the last twelve months."

Actual last split? February 2003.

More of his genius here.
 

maflynn

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Who cares. Apple doesn't split it very often, MS does it when they feel justified to do so.
 

belvdr

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Maybe the title should be "All stocks may split from time to time".
 

MurphyM

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And, what is your point?

The point isn't about when it split or when Apple splits. The point is that Paul Thurrott is supposed to be one of the top Microsoft pundits and he's THIS far off about the stock. If you read the whole quote he rambles on like he thinks he knows what he's talking about.

And yet he has also made himself an expert in all things Apple and what's wrong with every product. He clearly would have preferred that the Magic Touchpad wasn't released at all, even though many people might find it useful. And he's decided that ANYONE who buys Apple products belongs to this Apple cult that blindly buys anything with the logo.

The point was that he's supposed to write for a reputable publication - or at least one that once was. And yet he spends an inordinate amount of time slamming everything Apple without any kind of explanation. His attacks are juvenile and empty.

My point is that it's sad that these once-strong publications have fallen to resembling a comment thread at Engadget instead of interesting commentary.

Yes, this is a rant, but this guy has gotten on my nerves in a big way.
 

belvdr

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The point isn't about when it split or when Apple splits. The point is that Paul Thurrott is supposed to be one of the top Microsoft pundits and he's THIS far off about the stock. If you read the whole quote he rambles on like he thinks he knows what he's talking about.

He does know a lot from what I've read. Just because you know a lot about a company's product does not mean you know a lot about the company's stock.

And yet he has also made himself an expert in all things Apple and what's wrong with every product. He clearly would have preferred that the Magic Touchpad wasn't released at all, even though many people might find it useful. And he's decided that ANYONE who buys Apple products belongs to this Apple cult that blindly buys anything with the logo.

I've never gotten that impression. I believe you have labeled him an expert, not anybody else.

The point was that he's supposed to write for a reputable publication - or at least one that once was. And yet he spends an inordinate amount of time slamming everything Apple without any kind of explanation. His attacks are juvenile and empty.

Just as you are entitled to your opinion, others are entitled to theirs.

My point is that it's sad that these once-strong publications have fallen to resembling a comment thread at Engadget instead of interesting commentary.

What are the other publications?

Yes, this is a rant, but this guy has gotten on my nerves in a big way.

That's easily solved: stop reading his writings.
 

jammybastard

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who has the time to get their undies in a bundle over
what a tech pundit says on a webcast?
it's just his opinion, not presented as gospel.

Yes, this is a rant, but this guy has gotten on my nerves in a big way.

you need to see a shrink if this sort of thing freaks you out.
seriously. your priorities are skewed.
 

AppleMatt

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I think the OP has a point. Paul Thurrot holds himself out as a Microsoft expert; speaks at conferences, writes copious articles, has a large number of Microsoft books out, has 'early access' to products, etc etc.

It's not out of the realms of reasonableness to expect people who hold themselves out as such to actually have a level of truth in what they say. He could easily have qualified it with 'I'm not sure actually', but he didn't.

AppleMatt
 

belvdr

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So the guy makes a mistake and needs to be burned at the cross for it? I just realized the OP is likely the owner of the site and just promoting page views.

Besides, the statement was:

In fact, I want to say they’ve done it at least once in the last twelve months

You can even read the guy wasn't quite sure if this was a fact.

The funny part is the article title is "Don't Get Your Investment Advice from Paul Thurrott." A stock split neither increases nor decreases the value of your stock, so I guess we shouldn't get investment advice from MurphyMac either. ;)
 

MurphyM

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I think the OP has a point. Paul Thurrot holds himself out as a Microsoft expert; speaks at conferences, writes copious articles, has a large number of Microsoft books out, has 'early access' to products, etc etc.

It's not out of the realms of reasonableness to expect people who hold themselves out as such to actually have a level of truth in what they say. He could easily have qualified it with 'I'm not sure actually', but he didn't.

AppleMatt

Exactly. He's not reporting anymore. Instead of explaining his view of what's wrong with Apple's products he's constantly attacking the customer base.

PC World, PC Mag, WinITPro - these used to be decent magazines with editorial staff you could take seriously. Now they're name-callers.

Belvdr - A split doesn't change the market cap, but it's not without effect. When a company like Apple splits lots of new money pours in.
 

belvdr

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Again, if you don't like it, don't read it. Complaining here isn't going to help.
 

belvdr

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http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs/paul/archive/2010/01/27/apple-drops-an-idud.aspx

That says just about everything about Thurott's "expertise." LOL

The potential of the device was way obvious the second Steve pulled it out.

I don't think anyone, including Thurrott himself, is claiming he's an Apple expert. Besides, everyone is entitled to their opinion about things, so I fail to see what the fuss is about.

He does have a point about over-the-air syncing. I really wish my iPod would do what others can do.
 

maflynn

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Again, if you don't like it, don't read it. Complaining here isn't going to help.

Sage advice. Thurrott certainly has a lot of expertise on windows, but if you have issues with his posts/site and/or don't care for him. Don't read it, and why complain here about it. I can easily say as a mac user, I've only rarely visited his site. I have little desire too
 

gnasher729

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I don't think anyone, including Thurrott himself, is claiming he's an Apple expert. Besides, everyone is entitled to their opinion about things, so I fail to see what the fuss is about.

He does have a point about over-the-air syncing. I really wish my iPod would do what others can do.

Executive summary: Thurrott doesn't know anything about Macs, he doesn't know anything about Microsoft, he writes a lot, many people believe he is an expert, and he has a cult-like following that will defend him no matter what nonsense he writes. :D
 

steve2112

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I think the OP has a point. Paul Thurrot holds himself out as a Microsoft expert; speaks at conferences, writes copious articles, has a large number of Microsoft books out, has 'early access' to products, etc etc.

It's not out of the realms of reasonableness to expect people who hold themselves out as such to actually have a level of truth in what they say. He could easily have qualified it with 'I'm not sure actually', but he didn't.

AppleMatt

Being an expert with a company's products doesn't make someone a business expert. I work on Cisco and Microsoft stuff all the time, but I really have no idea if their stock split or not because I don't really care. I know generally how both companies have done in the past few years, but I'm not a stock analyst. My stock broker may know stock market trends, but I would bet he doesn't know how to setup an Exchange server.
 

belvdr

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Executive summary: Thurrott doesn't know anything about Macs, he doesn't know anything about Microsoft, he writes a lot, many people believe he is an expert, and he has a cult-like following that will defend him no matter what nonsense he writes. :D

Yeah, and don't forget that he also has a cult-like following that will complain about him no matter what nonsense he writes. ;)
 

AppleMatt

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Being an expert with a company's products doesn't make someone a business expert. I work on Cisco and Microsoft stuff all the time, but I really have no idea if their stock split or not because I don't really care. I know generally how both companies have done in the past few years, but I'm not a stock analyst. My stock broker may know stock market trends, but I would bet he doesn't know how to setup an Exchange server.

Agreed, but I'm sure you're prudent enough not to comment on the areas you know nothing about - as you have done here, you say 'goto a stock broker'. You wouldn't say "Actually they do split the stock fairly regularly."

AppleMatt
 

ValSalva

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I guess Paul Thurrott is an acquired taste. Generally I find him to be pretty even handed. He takes Microsoft to task for many things too.

He's clearly not always right. I think he will be as inaccurate with his prediction of how well Windows Phone 7 will be as he was about how successful Apple's stock would do post iPad in his iDud review.
 
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