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scouser75

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Hi guys, I need some help with the following please.

I have 4 family member accounts on my Mac - me, wife and 2 kids. My wife and my eldest have the same taste in music and so right now we all have separate Music Libraries and each library has the same music (which are either AAC or MPEG files from old CDs). This means a lot of storage is taken up with the same music.

Is there any way that me, wifey and eldest kiddie can share one Music Library with the same music?
 
Hi rhett7660 thank you.

I'm using the Apple Music App and simply syncing my phone to a playlist. And this is what my wife and daughter do too. The annoying thing is that we all have almost exactly the same music on each of our playlists in our own user accounts, which takes up a fair bit of storage.
 
Yes, merge & dedupe the libraries for you, your wife and eldest and then use the home sharing option to make access to that library available to all 3 of you. Depending on your circumstances, you might also want to familiarize yourself with what is called family sharing too.

I can't recall if there is a way to preserve each person't playlists (I think NOT) but if each of you mostly enjoy the same playlists, merge the other two to that library, dedupe and then each person can sync to playlists already set up. Things may have changed since I last explored this topic, so invest the time to learn about BOTH of those. I think the best solution is THERE but maybe there is now a way to preserve unique playlists, etc. Else, each person not on the main Mac can set up their unique playlists again.
 
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Yes, merge & dedupe the libraries for you, your wife and eldest and then use the home sharing option to make access to that library available to all 3 of you. Depending on your circumstances, you might also want to familiarize yourself with what is called family sharing too.

I can't recall if there is a way to preserve each person't playlists (I think NOT) but if each of you mostly enjoy the same playlist, merge the other two to that library, dedupe and then each person can sync to playlists already set up. Things may have changed since I last explored this topic, so invest the time to learn about BOTH of those. I think the best solution is THERE but maybe there is now a way to preserve playlists, etc.
Thank you.

Was "dedupe" a typo?

Also, how would I merge and "dedupe" the libraries please?

Also, a thought whilst I was sitting bored, would I be able to have 1 Library (my one), and place that in some kind of Shared Folder that all users can access? I'm sure MacOS used to have this but can't seem to find it any more?
 
No, de-dupe perhaps is a poor term but you reference that the 3 of you have many of the same songs. If you merge by simply exporting and importing "all" music, you'll have upwards of 3 copies of the same song in the main library. So, "de-dupe" means locating all the duplicates and purging them so you end up with 1 copy in the main library. Apple Music has a File (menu), Library, Show Duplicate Items option to help identify duplicates if you want to de-duplicate manually.

There's lots of ways to merge libraries. However, if all 3 libraries are mostly the same, maybe you have a way to get each person to identify the unique songs in THEIR libraries. Then 2 can export their unique songs to drag and drop into the main library. This could be easy if the libraries really don't have many differences and each of the 2 have a pretty good sense of the unique songs they've added to their own.

If everyone's libraries started from copying a core library to 3 computers, you can sort by date to see what has been added since that core library was copied to each. The list of newer songs since added is where ALL of the potential for new, unique songs to have been added to each. This MIGHT be an easy way to quickly find ALL of the unique songs on each of the 2 computers that will not be the main Mac used for home sharing. Export the unique ones then drop them into the main one and there should be no duplicates and all music would be in one place.

If the three of you can't do either very well, there are tools out there that may be able to help. For example, this one is about merging 2 libraries (while not also bringing in the duplicate files). I haven't used it and there's probably others like it. But it looks like it will bring the unique songs in one library into the chosen "master" library. So you use it for 2 libraries and then use it again to pull library #3 unique songs into the "master" library. Then turn on home sharing in the master library so everyone has access to all of the songs in the main library... which should then be ALL unique songs the 3 of you have.

Again, I don't know if there is a way to preserve individual playlists on library #2 and library #3. Maybe there is a tool for that somewhere? I haven't dealt with this kind of thing for a few years. But if you three have mostly the same taste and mostly the same playlists, this may be no big deal. Truly unique playlists may need to be recreated from scratch but each can look back at the list on their original Macs to help them recreate it on the main Mac.

Once everyone is confident they have their music and playlists as they want them on the main Mac, they could delete the duplicates on the other computers, freeing up substantial space for all that duplicate music. Then, everyone is fully using home sharing for access to the combined music library.

It is likely that the shared library and unique playlists on each device work just fine. If so, once each person can connect to the home share (master), they create playlists on their own devices to basically re-create how it was when they were all working with their own copy of the library on their own device. This MIGHT be the grudge work in this merger, especially if either of the other two actually have a good number of unique playlists to re-create.

One more thing: think this through. For example, if the main library is on a laptop that sometimes goes out with someone, the other two will NOT have access to the music library when the main one is not available. So generally, this is best done with a dedicated desktop that will always be home and thus available to everyone.

Lastly, the "shared folder" concept is not really the way for this. It's not really about folders with how Apple apps store media. You let Apple Music do the folder managing and let the main Mac's Apple Music app manage all of the media. Home sharing is working with Apple Music, not with some isolated folder. While you could probably put all of the music on some kind of home network drive, it's easy for network issues to create disconnects and then "Apple Music can't find file" errors can pop up. The easy way is the way Apple conceived with home sharing from one master Apple Music library. I wouldn't stray from that.

READ UP on all of this to get your head around these concepts as fully as possible. Back up your individual libraries so you can "go back" if you try it this way and don't like it. In my home, we all are perfectly happy with home sharing from one central desktop Mac always on and thus always available to everyone (including AppleTVs, iDevices, Sonos speakers, etc).
 
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I almost wonder if they should try another program for doing this? Something along the lines of Plex? This way they can all create their own playlists from the one library.

Name could be something like:

John Doe's Playlist - Metal
John Doe's Playlist - Hip/Hop
Jane Doe's Playlist - Love Songs
and so on...

I don't know how deep the OP want's to go down the rabbit hole. But this is what I ended up doing and it has been a god send if you will for managing the music for me and the misses.
 
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Thanks guys for this :)

Sorry, I wasn't too clear in my first post.

* Me, wifey and eldest are using the same MacBook Pro (I can only wish we had separate computers).
* On this computer, I have my own account, wifey has her own account, and eldest has their own account.
* On each of our accounts, we have almost the same music, which takes up unnecessary storage.

So, HobeSoundDarry, am I correct in thinking what you're suggesting is:

* Wifey and eldest need to go into their account and delete any songs they have in their library that I also have in mine.

* They also need to move songs that I do not have in my library, into my library(which will be the main library). If so, how would this be done? Move songs onto an external drive and then drag and drop into my library?

* Once this is done, the 3 of us will create separate playlists for ourselves and sync to our individual phones?

If this is correct, would wifey and eldest need to access my user account every time they want to make amendments to their playlist?
 
Thanks guys for this :)

Sorry, I wasn't too clear in my first post.

* Me, wifey and eldest are using the same MacBook Pro (I can only wish we had separate computers).
* On this computer, I have my own account, wifey has her own account, and eldest has their own account.
* On each of our accounts, we have almost the same music, which takes up unnecessary storage.

So, HobeSoundDarry, am I correct in thinking what you're suggesting is:

* Wifey and eldest need to go into their account and delete any songs they have in their library that I also have in mine.

* They also need to move songs that I do not have in my library, into my library(which will be the main library). If so, how would this be done? Move songs onto an external drive and then drag and drop into my library?

* Once this is done, the 3 of us will create separate playlists for ourselves and sync to our individual phones?

If this is correct, would wifey and eldest need to access my user account every time they want to make amendments to their playlist?
Update guys: I got my wife and eldest to delete all the songs I have from their libraries. These songs now are only in my library.

So, now, are the steps I detailed in my post above correct?
 
Set up Family sharing:


Then everyone just sets up their own accounts when logged in as themselves, and "each family member gets their own personal music library, and music recommendations based on what they love to listen to."
 
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Then everyone just sets up their own accounts when logged in as themselves, and "each family member gets their own personal music library, and music recommendations based on what they love to listen to."
Thanks mate. But I was hoping to do it without an Apple Music sub. Hobesounddarryl's method sounded great.
 
I'm impressed you share one computer in this day and age! Reminds me of the good ole days!

Sounds like you're already on with it but for what its worth - I would buy cheap external hard drive for each iTunes library and keep them stored on that. Then each family member can then just plug in their own library when they are using their user account/computer.

I'm not a fan of music subscriptions but I suppose in this instance they do make things less complicated.
 
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I'm impressed you share one computer in this day and age! Reminds me of the good ole days!

Sounds like you're already on with it but for what its worth - I would buy cheap external hard drive for each iTunes library and keep them stored on that. Then each family member can then just plug in their own library when they are using their user account/computer.

I'm not a fan of music subscriptions but I suppose in this instance they do make things less complicated.
I have to be honest, there is a second computer which is a dell and is the one the kids mainly use. I wouldn't remotely trust them with my Mac 😱

But the Mac is the one that holds all their music and pictures.

I did think about the external storage idea for the music. They will hardly ever need to sync the music so it does make sense. If I can manage to get all of us to use the one library on the Mac, I think the external drive route is what I'll opt for.
 
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