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My computer keeps randomly freezing.

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jimijazz

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May 24, 2007
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And it's making me nervous. I intend to use it as somewhat of a recording studio, and even a few minutes makes a difference, not to mention my tendency to work for an hour or so without saving... I get a horrible feeling that I'm going to experience some intense frustration and maybe even a little crying. And as a musician, I have enough of that already.

I can't really say why it's happening. At first I thought it was overheating, but it froze multiple times today in the range of 45-60 degrees. It just doesn't seem right to me. It's all updated and everything...
 
Is it giving anything away in the crash logs? You can find 'em in Console, in the Utilities folder. Also, what sort of third party hardware and software do you have? :)
 
are you using parallels?? do the freezes slow the computer down, but still responds eventually? or does it compeltely freeze and nothing works? are u able to try to force quit and see the route of the problem or something... it could be faulty ram, or maybe hdd, but probably not the latter
 
My computer did the exact same thing. i found out that it was a loose connection to my Hard drive. Don't know if this is the same problem since my computer is a Desktop machine... But if its a Macbook, try checking the hard drive.
 
Don't forget RAM. Faulty RAM can also be a culprit. After I upgraded the RAM in my mini, it began crashing about once a day. It turns out that the new RAM ran too hot for the limited cooling ability of the mini. I exchanged it for a different brand with the same specs and now everything is fine. Definitely check the crash logs, though, it's the best way to get an idea of where to look first.
 
I hope everything is backed up. Seemingly random hard freezes on my computers have always been due to dying boot drives.
 
It's actually been pretty good lately... it seems to happen when I'm running SoulSeeX, the SoulSeek client for OS X. I haven't done so in a while, but I'm firing it back up today... we'll see how it goes.

It's a new MBP, got it about a month ago, so I don't think it's the memory. I was thinking about taking it into the Apple store, but I can't help but think that the presence of P2P software on it would make them, well, frown a bit...
 
jimijazz said:
It's actually been pretty good lately... it seems to happen when I'm running SoulSeeX, the SoulSeek client for OS X. I haven't done so in a while, but I'm firing it back up today... we'll see how it goes.

It's a new MBP, got it about a month ago, so I don't think it's the memory. I was thinking about taking it into the Apple store, but I can't help but think that the presence of P2P software on it would make them, well, frown a bit...
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My new MBP kept freezing on me too. So I took it into an apple store, and they said they think it's a logic board problem. Do you have access to an apple store?
 
Well, it just happened again. I'm pretty sure I was running SSX but I was reading a webcomic for a while so I can't be sure what was running at the time. iTunes was, I know... is this the log you're talking about?:

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Host Name: james-roltschs-computer
Date/Time: 2007-06-16 22:57:40.651 -0400
OS Version: 10.4.9 (Build 8Q1058)
Report Version: 4

Command: Finder
Path: /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder
Parent: WindowServer [57]

Version: 10.4.7 (10.4.7)
Build Version: 4
Project Name: Finder_FE
Source Version: 5292900

PID: 80
Thread: 2

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000004

Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024c67 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x927150cd TDSMutex::Acquire() + 17
2 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92724c50 _Z6NodeIsPK13OpaqueNodeRefM5TNodeKFhvE + 36
3 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92724c23 NodeIsSavedQuery + 39
4 com.apple.finder 0x000154a5 0x1000 + 83109
5 com.apple.finder 0x00015273 0x1000 + 82547
6 com.apple.finder 0x001a18f3 0x1000 + 1706227
7 com.apple.finder 0x00056a2a 0x1000 + 350762
8 com.apple.finder 0x00048a85 0x1000 + 293509
9 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e24baa TimerVector + 31
10 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082c7e2 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 3341
11 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082bace CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
12 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dec9b8 RunCurrentEventLoopInMode + 285
13 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92dec0c2 ReceiveNextEventCommon + 385
14 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e34b94 _AcquireNextEvent + 58
15 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x92e349dc RunApplicationEventLoop + 150
16 com.apple.finder 0x00007deb 0x1000 + 28139
17 com.apple.finder 0x00004c6b 0x1000 + 15467
18 com.apple.finder 0x000515b6 0x1000 + 329142
19 com.apple.finder 0x000514dd 0x1000 + 328925

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900270fc kevent + 12
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb6cb4 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900245c7 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2 Crashed:
0 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92717960 TChildrenList::SetPopulating() + 30
1 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x927178fa TNode::SetPopulating() const + 26
2 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x927488bc TNode::DeleteSelf() + 28
3 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92748861 TNode::DeleteAllChildren(bool, bool) + 199
4 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92748833 TNode::DeleteAllChildren(bool, bool) + 153
5 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92748833 TNode::DeleteAllChildren(bool, bool) + 153
6 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x927525c0 TNode::Delete(bool, TOperation*, OperationRecord*, bool) + 200
7 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x9271a182 TNode::RemoveUnmarkedMountPoints() + 152
8 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92748657 TMountPointList::RemoveThisVolume(short) + 93
9 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x927485ef TMountPointList::RemoveVolume(short) + 105
10 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x92717170 TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 2220
11 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90cb6cb4 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 51
12 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900245c7 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024c67 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.ColorSync 0x915a66cf pthreadSemaphoreWait(t_pthreadSemaphore*) + 35
2 com.apple.ColorSync 0x915c0de0 CMMConvTask(void*) + 60
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900245c7 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 4:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90049257 semaphore_timedwait_signal_trap + 7
1 com.apple.finder 0x000dbdb4 0x1000 + 896436
2 com.apple.finder 0x001f47ef 0x1000 + 2045935
3 com.apple.finder 0x000dbc69 0x1000 + 896105
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x900245c7 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x92717950 ecx: 0x00624064 edx: 0x00000000
edi: 0x00000000 esi: 0x0142a3a9 ebp: 0xb011e718 esp: 0xb011e6f0
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010282 eip: 0x92717960 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

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Any particular reason you haven't updated to 10.4.10? I would think this is a MBP SR, and there could be a few fixes in the new OS update.
 
vandlism said:
Any particular reason you haven't updated to 10.4.10? I would think this is a MBP SR, and there could be a few fixes in the new OS update.
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Actually, I am. Now that I looks more closely, this log appears to be from June 16... does OS X generate logs when the computer just freezes, or does it have to shut itself down, so to speak? Whenever it happens I shut the computer off myself via the power button, and when I start it up again it doesn't mention the freeze.
 
>>Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)

My guess is bad ram.

Like due to bad ram an instruction in memory got corrupted, and when your computer tried to execute it, wham!
 
please let us know what is determined at the apple store, I have begun encountering a couple odd freezing issues and would like to try and stay on top of this problem.
 
jimijazz said:
And it's making me nervous. I intend to use it as somewhat of a recording studio, and even a few minutes makes a difference, not to mention my tendency to work for an hour or so without saving... I get a horrible feeling that I'm going to experience some intense frustration and maybe even a little crying. And as a musician, I have enough of that already.

I can't really say why it's happening. At first I thought it was overheating, but it froze multiple times today in the range of 45-60 degrees. It just doesn't seem right to me. It's all updated and everything...
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this kept happening to my macbook now it wont turn on all together, going in for repair soon
 
Oh god. It happened again, two hours of work, poof, gone. I am so mad at myself for not saving it; it just slipped my mind, even though I knew there was a problem... and now I feel like bashing my head against a wall >_<
 
Hard Drive GONE!

OK...so I was having the same problems with my MacBook freezing. I kept restarting ti and not worrying about it until it decided to not work anymore. Now ti starts up witha bright white screen and a while later I get the flashing " ? " folder. I took it to an Apple store and had tests run on it. The hard drive is dead. To any of you that are experiencing your mac freezing at all I recommend bringing it in asap. I lost all the stuff I had on my hard drive. Also...back everything up. I learned that hard way.:(
 
jimijazz said:
Oh god. It happened again, two hours of work, poof, gone. I am so mad at myself for not saving it; it just slipped my mind, even though I knew there was a problem... and now I feel like bashing my head against a wall >_<
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do you have an apple store near you? Have you contacted Apple at all yet?
 
i just got my machine back from apple. They replaced the logic board, and it's still freaking freezing!! It's pissing me off. I did upgrade the memory, so i'm going to put in the old stuff and see if it still happens.
 
I took it in, unaware that I should have made an appointment, and a guy at the Genius Bar had me repair my disk permissions real quick, and said if it kept freezing to make an appointment. Well, it froze once more later that day, but it hasn't happened since then... I'm keeping my eye on it.
 
Mine also freezes, and it's also started happening to my year-old CD iMac - must be an issue with 10.4.10. I hope they iron it out soon.
 
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