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Email I just sent to SJ below. Will ring Applecare in the morning.

Email said:
Dear Steve Jobs,

I would like to know when the update for iOS 4.0 will be available. I am hoping it will cure the following problems I've been having with my new iPhone 4:

- (Seemingly) random de-authorisation of apps during the day meaning I can only use apps not bought from the app store. (I have to get to a computer and sync to solve this).
- When the phone runs out of power it resets to 1970 and I have to manually adjust the date and time, sit down and tap through ~100 alarms that have been set previously in the calendar app.
- Proximity sensor sensitivity. My screen has been turning on meaning my cheek has been muting the phone, turning on loudspeaker or cutting people off.

I am guessing there will be some modifications to the signal bar strength status included somewhere although it's not really been an issue for me.

Other than these problems, the phone is great.

Regards,

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Do you really need an exact date?

Yes, I do. When I have to apologise to clients who I cut off or mute or the embarrassing situation of putting private calls from my clients on speakerphone in public places or sitting for ages tapping through 100 or so alarms it is a little inconvenient to say the least.

It is a good phone, but I would like to know when I can start using it for business and not having it sidelined incase I have to receive a call on it or have to rely on it.
 
Yes, I do. When I have to apologise to clients who I cut off or mute or the embarrassing situation of putting private calls from my clients on speakerphone in public places or sitting for ages tapping through 100 or so alarms it is a little inconvenient to say the least.

It is a good phone, but I would like to know when I can start using it for business and not having it sidelined incase I have to receive a call on it or have to rely on it.

Why in the world would a business adopt a new device the moment it is released? Did you have extra money in the budget to blow?
 
Why in the world would a business adopt a new device the moment it is released? Did you have extra money in the budget to blow?

Yes, I work for myself. That isn't really a good argument for launching/shipping a sub-par product though is it? "Don't buy it until we make it useable"
 
Apples lack of openness about all of this makes me uneasy about buying one...

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I personally think that everyone that's having any of these types of problems should write a letter to SJ and then post it on macrumors 
 
Yes, I work for myself. That isn't really a good argument for launching/shipping a sub-par product though is it? "Don't buy it until we make it useable"

I was just curious as most companies are pretty strict with their spending these days. I wouldn't go as far as calling it sub-par. It seems only a few have issues (besides reception). Have you tried some of the recommended "fixes"?
 
I personally think that everyone that's having any of these types of problems should write a letter to SJ and then post it on macrumors 

Sorry, I had typed the email, so pasted it to save rewriting it. I haven't heard any news of the date reset in other threads.

Have you tried some of the recommended "fixes"?

Yes, they don't work. I upgraded because my old 3G which has been a faithful companion was starting to feel sluggish. As I said, it's a great phone the teething troubles are just irritating meaning I'm back on the 3G until they're sorted.
 
Do you really need an exact date?

Stop crying about it.

Actually he has a point to ask for an exact date. People only have a 30day window to return and want to know what exactly is the fix going to fix other than the bars. "Few weeks" isn't saying much. Maybe at the end of the month or something would be more adequate.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the fix was released right after the 30day return expires.
 
Yes, they don't work. I upgraded because my old 3G which has been a faithful companion was starting to feel sluggish. As I said, it's a great phone the teething troubles are just irritating meaning I'm back on the 3G until they're sorted.

I would be quite frustrated as well. Luckily, my only issue thus far has been reception. I truly hope things are sorted out for you.
 
IPhone is NOT a business device in this realm Blackberry is king.

That's funny. I use my iPhone 4 everyday for business without a problem. I used my iPhone 2G, 3G, and 3GS for business as well. I was assigned a Curve for work with a previous employer and the only task it did well was e-mail. The build quality was awful and it was hardly dependable as a device. In fact, I ended up giving it back and used my iPhone instead.

The iPhone has certainly caught up in terms of security and control along with being a much better e-mail device. RIM is stagnant and they will be left behind by both Apple and Google.
 
JD914 is right. The iPhone may be catching up for business use but the BlackBerry is still top.

In terms of marketshare maybe but more and more organizations are beginning to support the iPhone. If RIM continues to muddle along and not keep up with the competition they will end up losing the war. Right now they are winning the battle but that is only because of their existing footprint in business. As Apple and Google continue to advance, RIM remains stagnant. Apple is making a huge push in the business market right now and it will only be a matter of time for RIM.

This article is from last year but is even more true today:

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2009/tc2009054_744579.htm
 
In terms of marketshare maybe but more and more organizations are beginning to support the iPhone. If RIM continues to muddle along and not keep up with the competition they will end up losing the war. Right now they are winning the battle but that is only because of their existing footprint in business. As Apple and Google continue to advance, RIM remains stagnant. Apple is making a huge push in the business market right now and it will only be a matter of time for RIM.

This article is from last year but is even more true today:

http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/may2009/tc2009054_744579.htm

So what you saying is BlackBerry is still top for business use but the iPhone is catching up?
 
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