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Yebubbleman

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My first >11.1-inch iPad was the first generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro. Barring the eventual dropping of support for it to run the latest iPadOS releases, it had a perfect feature set and did everything I wanted from it. The thing that caused me to ditch it was that I found the Smart Keyboard attachment to be indispensable and the one that Apple had for both the 1st and 2nd generation 12.9-inch iPad Pros had an Apple Quality Repair Extension Program that essentially entailed replacing the failed product with another product that would inevitably fail in the exact same way. After replacing three of these, I gave up and sold the aforementioned iPad Pro.

About three years ago, I bought an Apple Certified Refurbished 3rd Generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro along with a Smart Keyboard Folio. The keyboard is awesome. I wish the folio offered better protection for the iPad itself (just this morning, I lightly bumped the iPad into a doorway leaving a very tiny mark). But, for what I want to do with this combo, it fits the bill! The only thing I'm not a fan of about this setup is that video calls aren't great due to Apple positioning the front-facing camera at the top in portrait mode on those, rather than landscape mode.

I'm not in a huge rush to get a new 12.9/13-inch iPad. My current one works fine and I'm guessing it'll be another year or two before A12X Bionic is on the chopping block in terms of iPadOS support. However, I'm always considering my eventual upgrade plan. Considering that, barring design changes and a failure-prone smart keyboard folio, the only important feature (to me) that is missing from a 1st Generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro that the 3rd through 6th Generation models have is a modern enough SoC to run the current iPadOS release, the 12.9/13-inch iPad Air, on paper, is exactly what I want.

However, Apple is neither rating the existing Smart Keyboard Folio for the 3rd through 6th Generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro as being compatible with the new "13-inch" iPad Air nor releasing a new model for it. I'm basically stuck with the older Magic Keyboard attachment as my sole first party option for that iPad. Considering the commonplace battery drain that the original Magic Keyboard for iPad has, I'm not exactly thrilled by that as a possible option. I could certainly spend more money on a 13-inch M4 iPad Pro and hope that its new Magic Keyboard attachment doesn't suffer from the same battery draining issues that its predecessor does. Considering the M4 iPad Pro has A LOT of new technology conventions (relative to iPads) and that they aren't cheap, this isn't an ideal option. I could go with an Apple Certified Refurbished 5th (M1) or 6th (M2) 12.9-inch iPad Pro and then get the Smart Keyboard Folio for that one, but then I lose out on the camera being where it should've been on a 12.9/13-inch iPad from the get-go. Short of switching to a '+' model of Samsung Galaxy Tab S or going with a third party keyboard attachment, all of my options here kind of suck.

It's a huge shame because, on paper, the "13-inch" iPad Air is otherwise perfect for my needs as an eventual replacement to my 3rd Generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro.
 

Beemers916

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I'm in the same situation. I have a magic keyboard for my 12.9, and love it, but have a different use case for the 11 inch version. I've been using the keyboard folios since the 10.5 pro, and actually prefer it without the back protection (Seriously, who is taking the back of their Ipad, and running it against the wall, or dragging it on the ground?), as I use the Apple sleeve with it since it holds the pencil as well.

I ordered this, as it seems to be the closest and can be used in landscape mode.

 

Abazigal

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I'm in the same situation. I have a magic keyboard for my 12.9, and love it, but have a different use case for the 11 inch version. I've been using the keyboard folios since the 10.5 pro, and actually prefer it without the back protection (Seriously, who is taking the back of their Ipad, and running it against the wall, or dragging it on the ground?), as I use the Apple sleeve with it since it holds the pencil as well.

I ordered this, as it seems to be the closest and can be used in landscape mode.

It got that for my 2018 iPad Pro as well, but ended up returning it shortly after.

I realised that it didn't suit me for the same reason I didn't get the Magic Keyboard. For one, I like being able to ready detach my iPad from the case whenever I want to use it at home, so I can enjoy a device that is as thin and as light as possible. So I prefer a case that attaches via magnets to make the process of attaching and detaching the case as easy as possible.

Second, I like that the smart keyboard is able to fold back on itself, thus doubling as a (limited) form of back protection for my iPad. I use this in school so I am not so conscious about placing my iPad on flat surfaces like desks and tables. Maybe I am being more paranoid that I should be, but having back protection makes me feel safer at least. The Magic Keyboard ended up also being a dealbreaker because it couldn't fold back on itself (which made using it on the go very troublesome). The gap between the keys also meant that if I used it in the kitchen (like say, to watch YouTube while eating breakfast), bread crumbs ended up falling in between the gaps, which was annoying.

Unfortunately, I seemed to have issues with the Smart Keyboard Folio where the seams at the side would start coming apart after about a year, so after the second one, I gave up and went with this instead. At least when it spoils, I don't feel so hesitant about replacing a $10 case.


I am contemplating getting the Magic Keyboard and leaving it at my desk solely as a charging dock, but that would be a very expensive luxury. Shame Apple is discontinuing the smart keyboard. I could have seen myself getting both.
 

Yebubbleman

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Not sure when this happened, but Apple has now since updated the product pages for both the 11-inch and 12.9-inch versions of the Smart Keyboard Folio to denote compatibility with both variants of M2 iPad Air. Huzzah!
 

aurora_sect

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Not sure when this happened, but Apple has now since updated the product pages for both the 11-inch and 12.9-inch versions of the Smart Keyboard Folio to denote compatibility with both variants of M2 iPad Air. Huzzah!
Nice. I think someone in the accessories subforum tried one on a 13" M2 IPA and said it worked fine.

Hopefully I don't wind up with buyers remorse after deciding just to get the Smart Folio and Pencil Pro for my new 11" M2 IPA and be keyboardless. I had the SKF with my 10.5" Pro and I think it was the best option for me, but mine did stop working and require replacement once after about two years and it felt just a wee bit cramped so I found myself usually just grabbing a laptop when I needed to type a lot.
 

Yebubbleman

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Nice. I think someone in the accessories subforum tried one on a 13" M2 IPA and said it worked fine.

Hopefully I don't wind up with buyers remorse after deciding just to get the Smart Folio and Pencil Pro for my new 11" M2 IPA and be keyboardless. I had the SKF with my 10.5" Pro and I think it was the best option for me, but mine did stop working and require replacement once after about two years and it felt just a wee bit cramped so I found myself usually just grabbing a laptop when I needed to type a lot.
I've never been able to comfortably type on any of the keyboard attachments for the 9.7-11.1" iPads. They keep getting closer to being comfortable enough for me to consider, but they're still a smidge off. The new Magic Keyboard for the 11(.1)-inch M4 iPad Pro is the closest I've experienced to it, so far. Typing on-screen on those iPads has, generally been comfortable enough. It's only for the 12.9/13-inch iPads that I've found a keyboard to be quintessential. Though, I suppose that I could, just as easily, throw in an M1 MacBook Air or 13-inch MacBook Pro and cover the same needs (as well as having a functional computer). All that to say that you'll probably be fine without a keyboard. It is unfortunate that the Smart Keyboards for the first couple generations of 12.9-inch iPad Pro (as well as 9.7-inch and 10.5-inch iPad Pros) were very unreliable. The Smart Keyboard Folio on my 3rd Generation 12.9-inch iPad Pro is rock solid in terms of reliability!

I think the larger existential issue that I find myself in when it comes to larger iPads is that, while there are plenty of iPad compatible apps made for both iPhone and iPad, there's an annoyingly large amount that don't work in landscape mode. This, ironically, makes an iPad mini way more versatile, in terms of iPadOS's native App ecosystem, than any larger iPad wherein I'm incentivized to use it in landscape mode first and foremost.
 
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