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So my wife is hardly what I'd call a gadget girl. She's just not that into technology unless it works exactly like she wants it to work. She's been a Mac user for some time now, I typically buy her a low-end model whenever I upgrade, she likes the smaller "cuter" Macbooks to the Macbook Pro's. She did salivate a little over the Air's when they were introduced but the price turned her off...she just found them incredibly overpriced "netbooks" in her opinion. She loves her iPhone but really doesn't every use it for more than just the phone features and occasionally the GPS....I think she's used the browser maybe 3 times since she bought it.

So when the iPad was introduced, I showed her some of the early hands-on reviews of the device and she decided she wanted one. We got one right after they were released and she started playing with it immediately. Now again, keep in mind that she hasn't used the browser on the iPhone that much so when she found the browser on the iPad she was instantly hooked. Finally I thought I found a gadget she'd enjoy and use. All was well for the first several days.

But no matter how many arguments there are about Flash being useless, she can't live without it. She's a big coupon user and also a big Facebook user. It turns out that fully 9 out of the 10 of her most frequently visited sites require Flash. I didn't realize it but she's also gotten hooked on a few Facebook social games like Farmville with her friends and of course these don't work on the iPad.

At first her disappointment was tempered by the other things she liked about the iPad, especially for picture browsing and reading books. She's never had a Kindle or a Nook and she found that sort of fun. But she would also find herself back at the kitchen table with her Macbook just to hit some of her coupon sites that require Flash. So she boxed up the iPad and handed it back to me...the first gift I can ever remember her doing.

I know the Flash/no-Flash debate has been discussed thousands of times already, but I just had to share this. Apple and Adobe need to kiss and make up. The iPad was MADE for people like my wife. And she gave it BACK, too frustrated with its limitations to do simple things she enjoys as the most casual of casual users.
 
Well, I actually know other people in the same shoes. Bought an iPad, knew about the limitations - but it's another thing to actually see the amount of websites that contain Flash in one form or another.

There is no excuse for not supporting it. Make it user-switchable, Jobs! Oh, now you cannot, because you would lose face... Well, then lose sales!
 
Whose to say she wouldn't give it back because flash crashed the iPad OS? (as Steve suggests it would) THe grass is always greener...
 
My goodness. ENOUGH WITH THE FLASH DEBATE. The iPad does not support it. It never will. Don't buy one if you want flash!!!!!!
 
I'd be interested to know what coupons sites she's having problems with. The big ones like coupons.com and smartsource seem to work fine for me for viewing and clipping. Printing would be another matter, but I think that will be due to their coupon printing utility and other roadblocks. I'm just not sure this is flash in this case.
 
My goodness. ENOUGH WITH THE FLASH DEBATE. The iPad does not support it. It never will. Don't buy one if you want flash!!!!!!


Most people do not know, what Flash is and what it's like not to be able to enjoy it. That's the whole point of the discussion.
 
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Most people do not know, what Flash is and what it's like not to be able to enjoy it. That's the whole point of the discussion.

Everybody on this message boards knows it. There have been hundreds of threads about it. Why do we need another?
 
There is no excuse for not supporting it. Make it user-switchable, Jobs! Oh, now you cannot, because you would lose face... Well, then lose sales!

Don't think Steve and Co. are too worried about losing iPad sales over the Flash issue. They're losing more sales due to another "problem"...THEY CAN'T MAKE THEM FAST ENOUGH. :D
 
Just for laughs, id like a link to this coupon site that used flash. Maybe it was an aggregator or something.
 
One of my friends won't buy Ipad because she can't plug in a printer via USB and print. And the fact that she can't play flash games.

P.s. Shes reallllllly hot. Even if she doesn't know anything about gadgets, shes hot so whatever she says....goes
 
Whose to say she wouldn't give it back because flash crashed the iPad OS? (as Steve suggests it would) THe grass is always greener...

If it isn't crashing her Macbook, why would it crash the iPad? Hypothetically speaking, of course.

And look I know it doesn't support Flash. She knew it didn't support Flash. What she didn't realize (nor did I) is how many sites were of importance to her that make use of Flash. Some still work...you just lose out on the experience. She wanted a browsing experience as good as, if not better (due to the iPad's finger-input) than, what she could get on the Macbook. She got an inferior experience...her opinion. YMMV.

Maybe I'm just butthurt she doesn't like the shiny new gadget I bought for her. But my point is....theres no reason for her to be disappointed in it other than some stupid little "mines bigger than yours" issues at Apple and Adobe.

Ah well. eBay here I come.
 
... she would also find herself back at the kitchen table with her Macbook just to hit some of her coupon sites that require Flash.

Coupons -- they're important. So much so that spending $499 minimum so you can get them more easily sounds like a good idea!

Also, the iPad doesn't print. Are you going to cry about that, too?
 
I'd be interested to know what coupons sites she's having problems with. The big ones like coupons.com and smartsource seem to work fine for me for viewing and clipping. Printing would be another matter, but I think that will be due to their coupon printing utility and other roadblocks. I'm just not sure this is flash in this case.

I'll find out for you....its a local one here to the Chicago market.
 
Coupons -- they're important. So much so that spending $499 minimum so you can get them more easily sounds like a good idea!

My wife saved over $3000 in grocery bills in the last 12 months, cutting our grocery bill from about $800 a month to just under $500 a month. The extra money goes towards gadgets like this.
 
I'm always shocked to find poeple still care.

My wife saved over $3000 in grocery bills in the last 12 months, cutting our grocery bill from about $800 a month to just under $500 a month. The extra money goes towards gadgets like this.

Yeah, don't knock this one till you've tried it. An internet connection and a printer with cheap ink refills can cut down your grocery bill a phenomenal amount. (strictly legit mfr coupons, nothing shady.) I just don't happen to think flash is the bottleneck here. I still do mine on the pc, though.
 
Don't think Steve and Co. are too worried about losing iPad sales over the Flash issue. They're losing more sales due to another "problem"...THEY CAN'T MAKE THEM FAST ENOUGH. :D
Yup. What he said.

My wife loves the iPad. Or at least knows how to enjoy a product for what it is.
 
Message boards are notoriously devoid of tone, but some of you guys are fricking ******s in your responses to the OP. It's an interesting observation being that I'm married to a non-techie as well.

Sell that ipad to someone in Europe and make some money.
 
To the OP, sorry to hear that but you know, people like what they like. Will you pass the iPad to a relative/friend who will love owning it or will you sell it?
 
the ipad does not need flash more sites need to move to html5. You don't have to give up your macbook just because you have an ipad. I use both my ipad and macbook. i rather watch video and surf the web on my ipad. but sometimes i want to use the mbp to do things.
 
As far as farmville, Zynga created farmville.com for people to use with iPads and iPhones. I don't have an iPad yet (3G ordered) and I don't like how small the site is on my iPhone, but I would be interested to hear how it works on the iPad.

There is mafiawars.com too.
 
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