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Name one NEW feature that Apple done which DIFFERENTIATES itself from the competition and results in the iPhone being a must buy.

3D touch? hardly anyone uses it. Even apple has forgotten about it
Face ID? seen as a replacement of touch ID nothing more nothing less
OLED? Already on competition
Larger screens? Already on competition
CPU/GPU? thats a yearly upgrade to an existing feature
Camera? Cameras have been almost equally best with others since iPhones 5S


I can't think of one. can you?
 
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Name one NEW feature that Apple done which DIFFERENTIATES itself from the competition and results in the iPhone being a must buy.

3D touch? hardly anyone uses it. Even apple has forgotten about it
Face ID? seen as a replacement of touch ID nothing more nothing less
OLED? Already on competition
Larger screens? Already on competition
CPU/GPU? thats a yearly upgrade to an existing feature
Camera? Cameras have been almost equally best with others since iPhones 5S


I can't think of one. can you?
Me neither, maybe the design. I kept the iPhone 6 for 4 years.

Only got the X because it's a redesign.
 
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Name one NEW feature that Apple done which DIFFERENTIATES itself from the competition and results in the iPhone being a must buy.

3D touch? hardly anyone uses it. Even apple has forgotten about it
Face ID? seen as a replacement of touch ID nothing more nothing less
OLED? Already on competition
Larger screens? Already on competition
CPU/GPU? thats a yearly upgrade to an existing feature
Camera? Cameras have been almost equally best with others since iPhones 5S


I can't think of one. can you?
Hmmm…for me your question should have been "Name one NEW iOS feature that Apple done since iOS 6 which made the iPhone an impulse buy."

Because for me, there has been nothing since iOS 6 that Apple has offered that has made an iPhone a must buy.
 
Since your very anti Apple post (Android fanboy obviously) was posted on a Macrumors forum, I'll take the opportunity to answer this as an... Apple fanboy.

I didn't even consider the competition because I've used the competition - every year or two I make a point to use an Android phone for a day or two to make sure I'm making the right decision for myself.


So my thought process was:


I owned the 6+. Loved that phone, but the 1GB of ram was getting old, I'd go to Hangouts, talk, then open another app, then by the time I'd go back to hangouts a reload was necessary.

6s+ had the faster CPU and more ram and a rear camera mp bump from 8 to 12 MP. As someone who takes many many photos, this was important to me. The CPU difference between the A8 and A9 was very noticeable for me.

I then went to the 8+ because of the two cameras (telephoto lens). The camera was the main reason but the extra gig of ram wasn't bad either. The increase of storage to 256GB was of interest to me as well.

I was intending on keeping this phone for 2-3 years but when the Xs MAX was introduced I went with that phone because of the 512 GB storage (I could finally put my entire photo library on my phone) - OLED screen - reading on this has been amazing - I read books and books on my phone. I love it. (1920 x 1080 vs 2688 x 1242). The 4GB of ram interested me for future proofing, but more was the IS on the telephoto lens and an f stop of 2.4 on the telephoto vs the 8+'s 2.8 and no IS (just on wide angle).

Yeah the price is a bit painful, but my wife and I will be keeping our phones for 3 years easy. We normally do 2 as we have for our last phones (6+, 6s+). 8+ was only 1 year.


An impulse buy? I use my phone for hours every day. I read books on it. I used to take thousands of photos a month on it (getting older with less time now). I communicate with family on it. It is a huge part of my life as well as my family's lives.
 
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Can the OP name a feature any of Apples competitors have ever added to a smartphone that made it a must buy? Ever?
A camera that is flush with the housing is a key feature for me. Although many designs are becoming like Apple, there are still phones out there that prove this can be done and therefore that Apple is purposely allowing the camera boil as a design feature.

That's just me though. I don't represent the majority of Apple or Android users.
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Since your very anti Apple post (Android fanboy obviously) was posted on a Macrumors forum, I'll take the opportunity to answer this as an... Apple fanboy.

I didn't even consider the competition because I've used the competition - every year or two I make a point to use an Android phone for a day or two to make sure I'm making the right decision for myself.


So my thought process was:


I owned the 6+. Loved that phone, but the 1GB of ram was getting old, I'd go to Hangouts, talk, then open another app, then by the time I'd go back to hangouts a reload was necessary.

6s+ had the faster CPU and more ram and a rear camera mp bump from 8 to 12 MP. As someone who takes many many photos, this was important to me. The CPU difference between the A8 and A9 was very noticeable for me.

I then went to the 8+ because of the two cameras (telephoto lens). The camera was the main reason but the extra gig of ram wasn't bad either. The increase of storage to 256GB was of interest to me as well.

I was intending on keeping this phone for 2-3 years but when the Xs MAX was introduced I went with that phone because of the 512 GB storage (I could finally put my entire photo library on my phone) - OLED screen - reading on this has been amazing - I read books and books on my phone. I love it. (1920 x 1080 vs 2688 x 1242). The 4GB of ram interested me for future proofing, but more was the IS on the telephoto lens and an f stop of 2.4 on the telephoto vs the 8+'s 2.8 and no IS (just on wide angle).

Yeah the price is a bit painful, but my wife and I will be keeping our phones for 3 years easy. We normally do 2 as we have for our last phones (6+, 6s+). 8+ was only 1 year.


An impulse buy? I use my phone for hours every day. I read books on it. I used to take thousands of photos a month on it (getting older with less time now). I communicate with family on it. It is a huge part of my life as well as my family's lives.
As an Apple customer who does not drink the Koolaid, I will simply say…whatever works best for you. All of us have a different way of doing things and no one should be forced to a method solely because someone else dictates that.
 
As an Apple customer who does not drink the Koolaid, I will simply say…whatever works best for you. All of us have a different way of doing things and no one should be forced to a method solely because someone else dictates that.

Works for me. :) I can see myself being just like you in my not too far distant future. In a way I envy you. I'll grow up someday, hopefully. <cough>

Definitely agree - people need to do what works best for them. If they wanna go Android, great, if they wanna keep what they have? Great - its better for the environment and their pocket book.
 
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I think for many simply it being Apple/iOS is the differentiator (as in often enough people don't even care about what the competition might offer).
Since your very anti Apple post (Android fanboy obviously) was posted on a Macrumors forum, I'll take the opportunity to answer this as an... Apple fanboy.

I didn't even consider the competition because I've used the competition - every year or two I make a point to use an Android phone for a day or two to make sure I'm making the right decision for myself.


So my thought process was:


I owned the 6+. Loved that phone, but the 1GB of ram was getting old, I'd go to Hangouts, talk, then open another app, then by the time I'd go back to hangouts a reload was necessary.

6s+ had the faster CPU and more ram and a rear camera mp bump from 8 to 12 MP. As someone who takes many many photos, this was important to me. The CPU difference between the A8 and A9 was very noticeable for me.

I then went to the 8+ because of the two cameras (telephoto lens). The camera was the main reason but the extra gig of ram wasn't bad either. The increase of storage to 256GB was of interest to me as well.

I was intending on keeping this phone for 2-3 years but when the Xs MAX was introduced I went with that phone because of the 512 GB storage (I could finally put my entire photo library on my phone) - OLED screen - reading on this has been amazing - I read books and books on my phone. I love it. (1920 x 1080 vs 2688 x 1242). The 4GB of ram interested me for future proofing, but more was the IS on the telephoto lens and an f stop of 2.4 on the telephoto vs the 8+'s 2.8 and no IS (just on wide angle).

Yeah the price is a bit painful, but my wife and I will be keeping our phones for 3 years easy. We normally do 2 as we have for our last phones (6+, 6s+). 8+ was only 1 year.


An impulse buy? I use my phone for hours every day. I read books on it. I used to take thousands of photos a month on it (getting older with less time now). I communicate with family on it. It is a huge part of my life as well as my family's lives.
none of those are differentiators from the competition to make it an impulse buy for the common consumer
 
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none of those are differentiators from the competition to make it an impulse buy for the common consumer

Millions and millions of common customers would disagree with you. Now, most likely not many have gone out of their way to try the competition as I have. I have my reasons for why I think iPhones are better than Android. But I would venture to guess that MOST common customers don't give a rip about differentiators from the competition. They're ingrained in the environment that they're in whether that be Android or Apple.
 
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none of those are differentiators from the competition to make it an impulse buy for the common consumer
The device being an Apple/iOS one is a differentiator that many find enough to simply go with. It might not be a meaningful differentiator to some perhaps, but it is one of the driving ones nonetheless.

As far as "impulse buy", it's hard to say that something like this really falls into that category, given that something like this isn't something that's just there by a checkout register in a store where it would actually be something on the level of an impulse buy.
 
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Can the OP name a feature any of Apples competitors have ever added to a smartphone that made it a must buy? Ever?

Apple Pencil on Phones missing like Samsung note
True Slo-mo on Camera like Samsung 960 fps vs 240 fps
Night Mode - Google Pixel Phones
Wide Aperture Lens for Zoom lens - Google Pixel
Call Screening feature - Google Pixel Phones
USB-C - Everything but iPhone
Variable Aperture Lens - Samsung S9

on the top of my head
 
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Apple Pencil on Phones missing like Samsung note
True Slo-mo on Camera like Samsung 960 fps vs 240 fps
Night Mode - Google Pixel Phones
Wide Aperture Lens for Zoom lens - Google Pixel
Call Screening feature - Google Pixel Phones
USB-C - Everything but iPhone
Variable Aperture Lens - Samsung S9

on the top of my head

Very nice list, I'm impressed.

I was a Note 3 user and really enjoyed using my s-pen. Yes it was a factor as to why I went with it, but screen size and OLED was probably highest (From my iPhone 5). I do miss it.

Slow mo, not sure if I'd qualify that as a MUST buy feature. Impressive, yes.

Night Mode - Sadly, I have not spent the time to use this in person, so I can't comment on it. Most of my photography is in the day. My initial reaction is, not sure if this is a must buy feature for most customers, maybe for some.

Call screening can be done via apps or Google Voice. I am getting fed up with the number of spam calls these days. So this is becoming more important.

USB C... I wish iPhone had USB C. I actually made that my requirement to go from the 8+ to any new phone. But alas, I fell for the XS Max. USB C would definitely be a significant upgrade requirement for me in a future iPhone or Android if I went that route.

Variable Aperture Lens - I've used the S9 and I liked it. It was fast, the camera was great, it wasn't perfect for me personally (neither is Apples) but it was great. Samsung has definitely closed the gap if not gotten better than the iPhone in the camera arena for me.
 

If you could, you'd finally have enough money to purchase the SUPER EXPENSIVE iPhone that NO ONE is buying and is the reason why Apple's stock is failing and is the end of Apple, finally JUSTICE!!! They'll finally remove Cook who was the cause of this and every other failing. ITS THE END OF APPLE!!!! (/sarcasm).

Yeah, it's very old. Sure does draw a lot of attention and views though for Macrumors I assume. But yeah, it's really getting old. Getting overrun with it.
 
Apple Pencil on Phones missing like Samsung note
True Slo-mo on Camera like Samsung 960 fps vs 240 fps
Night Mode - Google Pixel Phones
Wide Aperture Lens for Zoom lens - Google Pixel
Call Screening feature - Google Pixel Phones
USB-C - Everything but iPhone
Variable Aperture Lens - Samsung S9

on the top of my head

Hmmm... Sorry, none of those would make Android an impulse buy for me.

But I would venture to guess that MOST common customers don't give a rip about differentiators from the competition.

This. Nerd website is not a great place to extrapolate to general public.

As BigMcGuire said in a different post, whatever works/floats one's boat re: phone, great. No right/wrong answer to cover everyone.
 
If you could, you'd finally have enough money to purchase the SUPER EXPENSIVE iPhone that NO ONE is buying and is the reason why Apple's stock is failing and is the end of Apple, finally JUSTICE!!! They'll finally remove Cook who was the cause of this and every other failing. ITS THE END OF APPLE!!!! (/sarcasm).

Yeah, it's very old. Sure does draw a lot of attention and views though for Macrumors I assume. But yeah, it's really getting old. Getting overrun with it.

Lol! You would think these guys are apple investors or something :D

It’s gotten out of hand now, and I don’t get why people care so much. You either buy it or you don’t, it’s that simple.
 
Easy. Smart HDR + Bigger sensor (1/2.55”). Smart HDR is something that no one else has done.

Side benefit of A12...60 FPS on my favorite game...Asphalt 9.
 
I don’t impulse buy $1200+ devices because of a singular feature.

It’s an overall package I’m buying into.

Apple Pencil on Phones missing like Samsung note
True Slo-mo on Camera like Samsung 960 fps vs 240 fps
Night Mode - Google Pixel Phones
Wide Aperture Lens for Zoom lens - Google Pixel
Call Screening feature - Google Pixel Phones
USB-C - Everything but iPhone
Variable Aperture Lens - Samsung S9

on the top of my head

None of those are a reason to buy a smartphone, unless many other elements within the device are up to scratch.

Your original post seems very anti-iPhone.
 
I can think of one, screen size! The Max was the phone I had been waiting for, lots of screen real estate and the best keyboard ever.

As far as Android goes, not for me.
Yep. Screen size! Max it is! I have an android...and it is sitting collecting dust!
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Apple Pencil on Phones missing like Samsung note
True Slo-mo on Camera like Samsung 960 fps vs 240 fps
Night Mode - Google Pixel Phones
Wide Aperture Lens for Zoom lens - Google Pixel
Call Screening feature - Google Pixel Phones
USB-C - Everything but iPhone
Variable Aperture Lens - Samsung S9

on the top of my head

All of those things connect in to android. Don’t like it. Have an Android...a recent one...and I don’t use it. I use my iOS device. It is as if you think we don’t have the option of Android. We are all big kids here and if that is what we wanted, we would use them.
 
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Apple Pencil on Phones missing like Samsung note
True Slo-mo on Camera like Samsung 960 fps vs 240 fps
Night Mode - Google Pixel Phones
Wide Aperture Lens for Zoom lens - Google Pixel
Call Screening feature - Google Pixel Phones
USB-C - Everything but iPhone
Variable Aperture Lens - Samsung S9

on the top of my head
Sorry, none of those would make me switch or try an android device. You have anything else more impressive?
 
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