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WeatherWeasel

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My wife has a 2015 , 13" Macbook Pro and the keys are sticking, it over heats and she uses one of those laptop cooling pads with the fans. She is a college professor and on it a lot and realizes it is going to quit on her. About 40 years ago, soon after we got married, I decided to do the laundry and dumped it all in , not noticing her wool sweater she loved. So I washed on hot and dried it and the sweater didn't look so good anymore. You would think in 40 years she would have moved on, but nope. So here we are, I can transfer the data and stuff from her old computer to the new one, but since I do not want any screw up on my part, does the Genius bar at Apple stores typically do that transfer to a new computer? I did one with my old iMac to the new one last summer and it just took some time. But with a computer as old as hers, I am hoping this can be done. Plus if the screw it up, they could fix it right away. Then Ican go on living.
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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This is one the easiest things to do without the potential for doing any damage to the old one:
  1. Hook up a blank external disc to existing Mac
  2. Use the free Time Machine in Mac to backup her existing Mac to that Time Machine drive
  3. Buy new Mac. As it sets up (step by step wizard) it will ask if you want to migrate or restore from an older Mac? Yes
  4. One of the options you can choose is restore from Time Machine. Choose that option and attach the Time Machine drive to the new Mac.
  5. It will then migrate all of her stuff on old Mac to new Mac.
Finished. Have her check through all of the files/photos/music/apps/etc she is used to seeing/using on her old Mac and she should find them in the same places on the new Mac. Keep the old Mac "on a shelf" for a while as she gets acquainted with the new one. If she comes to think ANYTHING is missing from the new one, she can retrieve it on the old one and copy it over (this is unlikely, so this keeping it is more for peace of mind).

If you somehow don't succeed for any reason, the old Mac is still exactly as it is. In this unlikely scenario, take it to an Apple store and seek some help.

Note: there are other "cloning" options too but the above is as simple as it seems to get. I'd suggest trying it before trying anything else. You can also leave OUT the Time Machine "middle man" and do this direct Mac to Mac in Migration Assistant too... but it's always good to have a TM backup.

After some period of time where her confidence in the full migration is complete, you could wipe the old one and sell it to someone, give it away, recycle it, repurpose it, etc. You could also wipe the TM drive and then create a new TM drive for the new Mac so that you have a backup of the new Mac, which will regularly back itself up in TM so you are ready for any kind of worst-case scenario of losing the Mac.
 
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ADudeInBoston

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This is one the easiest things to do without the potential for doing any damage to the old one:
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If you somehow don't succeed for any reason, the old Mac is still exactly as it is. In this unlikely scenario, take it to an Apple store and seek some help.
I second this approach. It's especially good in the situation that OP describes, because the original computer is still sitting there, unchanged; it's not a matter of having to try to "put it back the way it was", because nothing has been done to it. There's no risk of OP being seen as having messed something up, so domestic tranquility is preserved! :)
 

aross99

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I have used Migration Assistant many many times to migrate all of my family member's computers. It seems to work flawlessly every time. Only a few apps (notably Adobe Creative apps) need to be re-authorized. If you can workout a thunderbolt connection from one computer to the other, it is by far the fastest way to go.Your wife's computer has Thunderbolt 2 I believe, so you would need a Thunderbolt 2 to Thunderbolt 3 adapter cable. Apple sells everything you need. It might be worth it to see if the Apple Store will help you do the transfer in the store, without having to purchaser the cables and adapter. I thought I would only use mine once, but in the end, I have used them many more times every time a family member get's a new computer.
Like the backup/reload options mentioned above, it also leaves the original computer untouched, incase you have any issues. It does make things easier if you can make sure the original computer has all of the OS updated loaded, etc.
 
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Arctic Moose

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You would think in 40 years she would have moved on, but nope.

😆

Keep the old Mac "on a shelf" for a while as she gets acquainted with the new one. If she comes to think ANYTHING is missing from the new one, she can retrieve it on the old one and copy it over (this is unlikely, so this keeping it is more for peace of mind).

Excellent advice. 👍
 

Chuckeee

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I have used Migration Assistant many many times to migrate all of my family member's computers. It seems to work flawlessly every time.
I agree, I have also used it a few times. It also works over Ethernet. Either point to point or while on the same network.

If you take to the Apple Store and pay them to do it. The first thing they do in the back is try to use Migration Assistant. It is simple to use. Might as well save yourself time and money and try doing it yourself.
 

HobeSoundDarryl

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That post changes the nature of your original one. That reads like she (and maybe you) want what is called a "clean install" which- basically- means re-starting her Mac usage from scratch with no files, etc from the old one until she wants/needs them.

If so, she can attach a drive and copy all files from old Mac to it. Then store that drive somewhere. Start using the new Mac and download apps as needed (for clean app installs) and plug that hard drive in whenever she wants some file that was "on the old Mac" to move to the new Mac.

Eventually, there will be no more old files to move because she will have pulled all the ones she actually wants over to the new one one-by-one. However, if there comes a time where she DOES recall another she wants, the hard drive and/or old Mac is always there ready to provide the file.

Unfortunately, there is no magic "migrate only the non-junk stuff we don't want onto the new Mac" tool. It takes her (perhaps with some help from you) to figure out the keepers from the junk. There's no way for any app to be able to tell what she/you considers junk vs. "the good stuff" to be kept.

OPTION #2: To still use the first recommendation of Time Machine, she can spend time working through all of her documents/photos/music/apps/etc on the old one and trashing all of what she considers junk. When the old one is purged down to ONLY the "good stuff," you could run the same Time Machine process previously described to auto-migrate what is left.

This would still move some behind-the-scenes junk not easily accessed by someone "cleaning house" in this way but that useless clutter would likely be relatively small if she does a good job trashing all junk she can easily access.

If so, first clean up the old Mac to as close to how she wants the new Mac as possible, then execute the TM approach to migrate what is left to the new Mac.


Between BOTH options, clean install is usually favored. However, option #2 will avoid LOTS of "need the hard drive again" scenarios as she wants access to things that are still on the old Mac but not the new one (yet). So net is usually the #2 option vs. having to fetch that drive over and over and over again to get another file still "back there."

The sole benefit of option #1 is that it is an absolutely clean Mac with no junk clutter behind the scenes anywhere because you are putting everything back one thing at a time and thus only installing stuff that you judge as not junk at each of those moments.

The analogy here is a classic: moving. If you've lived in a home for a good number of years, you have a mix of stuff to definitely take with you when you move and clutter/junk you might trash. You could:
  • take everything to the new house and then try to purge the clutter/junk there,
  • purge the clutter/junk at the existing house first and then take only the keeper stuff to the new house,
  • just move without selling the old house, leave EVERYTHING back at the old house and only go get stuff from the former home when you decide you definitely want it at the new one.
That last one is a pure "clean install" analogue: absolutely NOTHING makes it to the new house without fresh scrutiny and a clear decision. The first one is using Time Machine right now with no purging: EVERYTHING is going to the new home and we'll try to purge the junk there. The middle bullet is the "hybrid" option to get rid of the obvious junk before reaching a point where the rest will just move to the new home (potentially bringing some junk with you that you missed).
 
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