The iPod touch IS an iPad... of the very nano and economical variety.
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New ipad 2017 doesn't bring up any spark, and ipad may be like ipod becoming old tech soon
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Yes. I guess to sum up what I was saying is that Apple should discontinue the pro and just sell iPads at reasonable prices.
I don't get really excited on a personal level by new iPads. Even Macs are borderline. I am definitely more interested in new iPhones, and hopefully better usability in iOS on the iPhone. But I have at least one or more of every category in iPod, iPad, iPhone, Mac, Watch and even Beats in our household. Interestingly my iPad (Pro) is newer than my Macs, and also gets a lot of use. It's a little blurred as I use my Mac (well, at least one of them) and iPhone for work, but the iPad certainly is just as much loved if not more.
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Internally, it's being canabalized by the 12" MacBooks and the larger iPhone Plus models.
Externally, it's suffering loss from competition making fully computer windows 10 tablets, such as the SP4 modeled tablets from Samsung and Asus.
In the education and corporate sector it is dying to chromebooks as well as m-series fanless windows 10 cpu tablets.
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I live the same scenario. After 10.2 her Air 1 simply became frustrating. I set up her (Mom) new iPad last night, and it's exactly what I expected. She could care less about laminated screens. The extra weight is actually helpful for her. People should not under estimate Apple's Target Consumer for this device. It's from 3 to 103. I'm no fan of Apple's current Executive Team, but I have to hand it to them. By streamlining this line up (don't be shocked to see the 12.9" go the way of the Mac Pro) they have extended the iPad's life for a long time, and are creating "Super Cycles" for it.
I bought today for my parents and setup for them. I feel the screen is same as or as good as my wife air 2 and i dont feel the weight different. I feel it is faster than the air2. I use the air2 few times a week for years. Yes there is the air gap but i only can tell when i seriously check it out in apple store, when i use it I dont feel any different than air 2 other than this new ipad is faster.
Yeah. I'm a retired S/W engineer so I know a lot of tech people who will always upgrade to the latest and greatest whether they "need" to or not. But outside of them, the vast majority that I know are not interested in dropping several hundred dollars on a new tablet every few years unless what they have is broken.
The OP is an alarmist.
Yes, the iPad sales have dropped year to year for some years now...we've known that.
But the iPad is still king-of-the-hill in the tablet market and the Samsung S3 won't be enough to dethrone it. And yes, the Surface line (along w/other Windows offerings) will continue to eat away at the Apple lead.
Does that mean Apple can't do more with the iPad with software and hardware improvements? Of course not!
Got any more "no news" to share with us?
Yes, the iPad sales have dropped year to year for some years now...we've known that.
But the iPad is still king-of-the-hill in the tablet market and the Samsung S3 won't be enough to dethrone it. And yes, the Surface line (along w/other Windows offerings) will continue to eat away at the Apple lead.
Does that mean Apple can't do more with the iPad with software and hardware improvements? Of course not!
Got any more "no news" to share with us?
I highly doubt it.
The market may continue to shrink, but there will be a place for tablets.
For some things, it really does it well.
Even when foldable displays hit the market and blurs the line between phones and tablets even more, I still see a tablet market still.
The iPod is diminished and abandoned to a tiny, lonely section categorized under "Music" on Apple.com. While the iPhone has the features, it's not an iPod. It did, however, all but kill the iPod. To say they're one in the same is just inaccurate.
What you're saying is that you think you should get the top end features at the budget, stripped down price. Not going to happen. Want the features? Pay for them.
See, I was on board with you at first. But saying things like this just invalidates your position. Palm died out due to lack of support and lack of adaptation to a rapidly changing tech world. Tablets, as they are today, will remain for a significant time period because they've quite simply defined a portion of the tech sector. That isn't something that will just die out if a single company fails to innovate. You have Apple, Microsoft, Samsung, and others all making tablets on a yearly basis, and unless all of them, along with the smaller brands, suddenly stop creating tablets? The market will persist, even if slightly diminished.
Just like stock market, someone can always find out many "fundamental reasons" to believe stock market may raises or drops in future. I can just show you the google trend keep dropping for very long time and there is no sign it will be reverse soon, the pattern is just like what happend to ipod.
Honestly I don't think a company can be #1 market value in the world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_public_corporations_by_market_capitalization
forever just basically because of one phone series. I believe Steve can keep making the next big thing but this current Apple cannot. We will see what will happen.
That's a valid assessment for today, but the market difference between the iPad and iPod is vastly different. The iPod came about as a media player - strictly - and served that purpose for several years. The market eventually diminished, but only due to other markets cannibalizing it - IE, the smartphone and tablet industries. You see the transition in things such as the iPod Touch, which you could view as the missing link of sorts in the market evolution.
The tablet market currently has stagnant growth, but also stagnant innovation - we have computer range power, advanced styluses, and a variety of renditions of keyboards for various tablets. There's not really much in the way of new and groundbreaking features, and now that many tablets are shipping with higher power processors and more RAM, they're lasting far longer for a consumer - much like a PC would. These both contribute to the market's growth slowing drastically after what was a huge rush of growth with the introduction of the iPad and the subsequent tablet market.
That being said, the tablet market will die out when a similar, but more innovated and useful market emerges. What that will be? None of us can really say. Perhaps analytics can shed light on it by viewing new technologies that are currently ramping up, but it will come down to future marketing, much as the iPad's initial success did.
Yes something new and big may comes up, but as I said Steve would be the one making it happens, not this Apple.
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