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Warped9

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So yesterday I bit the bullet and upgraded from my five year old iPad Pro 10.5 to a new iPad Air 5.

I was also considering the new iPad 10th generation, but ultimately I felt the value wasn’t there. I wanted a bigger display, but the 10’s specs aren’t worth (in my view) the big price jump from the iPad 9th generation. Since I was getting a decent staff discount that made the Air 5 more palatable. This isn’t to say I don’t think the 10th gen isn’t a good device, but I think it’s priced wrong for what it is and I don’t feel it would have been a significant improvement over my 10.5.

I briefly considered the M2 iPad Pro 11, and that might have been a fairer comparison to my 10.5 Pro, but I chaffed at spending $1099 CAN for a new iPad considering my needs when using a tablet. Even with my discount I felt it was more than I was comfortable spending. The Air cost me $679 CAN plus tax compared to the Pro would have cost me $934 plus tax.


Okay, I’ve been using this new Air 5 for only a day, but I have some early impressions.

- Firstly, it’s definitely not losing its charge like my old 10.5 Pro. Nice.
- It’s odd getting used to no home button and getting used to the gestures to go back to home screen or to turn apps off, but not a huge learning curve.
- 10.9 vs. 10.5 is certainly bigger, but it doesn’t seem really bigger.
- I can‘t put my finger on exactly what is different, but the image quality is definitely different. I had no complaints with my 10.5’s display, but I feel there is more sharpness and I think see more detail here. The colours also seem a little truer and maybe a wee bit more vivid. Hard to tell exactly.
- I don’t hear much real difference in the audio. The Air’s dual speakers sound fine compared to the 10.5’s four speakers. No complaints.
- The tablet is definitely snapper and more responsive, but it’s not a light years’ difference.
- iPadOS 15.7 seems somehow different on this Air 5 from my 10.5 Pro. The keyboard seems different and the menu in Settings seems different. Mail seems different, too. I should have indulged in a side-by-side comparison, but last night I wiped my 10.5 so I have to go by memory alone, and based on that somethings seem different.
- No audio jack. Since I don’t really use headphones much I’m not going to bother replacing my wired Apple Earpods—I’ll just get a USB-C to audio jack adaptor.

I have to say I think it’s a testament to the 10.5 Pro that this Air 5 doesn’t feel radically different or radically better than the five year old Pro. I can only assume an M1 or M2 iPad Pro 11 would impress as much better than a 10.5 Pro. Considering this I’m glad I didn’t go for the 10th gen iPad because I feel the differences would be even less noticeable.

Overall the Air 5 feels like a really nice device. It’s definitely better in some respects and seemingly not that much different in others over my old 10.5 Pro. Then again my 10.5 was in mint shape and good working order with a battery that was just beginning to not hold its charge the way it used to. It’s still perfectly functional and thats why I’ll be selling it privately. I’m sure the comparison would be much different if my old device had been giving me serious issues.
 
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rui no onna

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Overall the Air 5 feels like a really nice device. It’s definitely better in some respects and seemingly not that much different in others over my old 10.5 Pro. Then again my 10.5 was in mint shape and good working order with a battery that was just beginning to not hold its charge the way it used to. It’s still perfectly functional and thats why I’ll be selling it privately. I’m sure the comparison would be much different if my old device had been giving me serious issues.

Yeah, the 2017 iPad Pros are still very fine tablets. It’s not enough for me since I started multitasking more (4GB RAM is just too limiting) but even now that it’s 5 years old, it’s working very well and living a second life as my mom’s tablet.

Gotta say, I love the More Space Display Zoom option on the M-series chipset iPads. You pretty much get the same screen real estate as the 12.9” in Normal mode in a more compact form factor.
 

BigMcGuire

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I think the iPad Air 5 is a great device.

Those that have been unfortunate enough to follow my experience this year, I’ve gone through a handful (at least) of iPads. I used an iPad Pro 11 as my primary device from 2018-2021. This year I got a nice MBP and to justify it I got rid of my iPad. Well, that was a mistake because I REALLY like my iPad. I tried a mini, 12.9’, and several iPad Pro 11s. In the end I either sold them, gave them away, or returned them.

I couldn’t justify a $1000 device for something I only use as a consumption reader and notebook.

AppleCare+ is half the cost of the Pro.

Saw this 256GB iPad Air 5 at Best Buy for $712 out the door after tax (new, unopened) and decided that I would do it.

8GB of ram, M1 chip - amazing form factor that I already had cases and iCarez screen protectors and an Apple Pencil 2? Worked for me.

Not sure if Apple did something but writing in Notability with the Apple Pencil 2 is hardly any different than the iPad Pro 11. Scrolling is pleasant and not noticeably different for me despite no 120hz. And it’s not $1000.

I didn’t think I could deal with an Air 5 after using an 11 for so many years but … I can’t tell the difference for what I do. And I’m reading books again - finished a 211 page book today (was about 70 pages into it when I got the iPad). :)

Now if Apple would just improve Apple Books…
 

BeatCrazy

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Gotta say, I love the More Space Display Zoom option on the M-series chipset iPads. You pretty much get the same screen real estate as the 12.9” in Normal mode in a more compact form factor.

Wuuutt.. I just tried this on my 11" M1 iPad Pro. Crazy. So this is only on M1/M2 iPads? Is this new with iPadOS 16?
 
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FeliApple

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I think the iPad Air 5 is a great device.

Those that have been unfortunate enough to follow my experience this year, I’ve gone through a handful (at least) of iPads. I used an iPad Pro 11 as my primary device from 2018-2021. This year I got a nice MBP and to justify it I got rid of my iPad. Well, that was a mistake because I REALLY like my iPad. I tried a mini, 12.9’, and several iPad Pro 11s. In the end I either sold them, gave them away, or returned them.

I couldn’t justify a $1000 device for something I only use as a consumption reader and notebook.

AppleCare+ is half the cost of the Pro.

Saw this 256GB iPad Air 5 at Best Buy for $712 out the door after tax (new, unopened) and decided that I would do it.

8GB of ram, M1 chip - amazing form factor that I already had cases and iCarez screen protectors and an Apple Pencil 2? Worked for me.

Not sure if Apple did something but writing in Notability with the Apple Pencil 2 is hardly any different than the iPad Pro 11. Scrolling is pleasant and not noticeably different for me despite no 120hz. And it’s not $1000.

I didn’t think I could deal with an Air 5 after using an 11 for so many years but … I can’t tell the difference for what I do. And I’m reading books again - finished a 211 page book today (was about 70 pages into it when I got the iPad). :)

Now if Apple would just improve Apple Books…
Yeah, the Air 5 is a beautiful device; arguably, the best choice currently. On ProMotion: after buying the Air 5, I went to a store and compared the Air 5 on display to the M1 iPad Pro on display. Frankly, I barely saw any difference with the 120hz thing. I considered it completely inconsequential. The rest of its features are appealing, but not too much: Quad Speakers? I love them in concept (I have the 9.7-inch iPad Pro. I’ve heard people say that there isn’t a lot of difference in quality and/or volume when compared to the latest models, so I can get an idea of how they sound), but I don’t use them at all. I’ve always used headphones and speakers, and regardless of how good they are, they aren’t a replacement. The 9.7-inch iPad Pro’s speakers (and, consequently, the 11-inch iPad Pro’s speakers) blow the Air 5’s speakers out of the water, but as I don’t use them, it’s not relevant to me. The rest of the differences are so minor that they aren’t worth mentioning.

The Air 5 is 99% of the 11-inch iPad Pro, in my honest opinion. I’d wanted that form factor ever since the 3rd gen iPad Pro was released, and I finally got it with the Air 5. That said, honestly, the main reason for which I wanted to upgrade was battery life: I’m a little of a perfectionist regarding how my iOS devices work, which is why I never update iOS. After Apple forced it from iOS 9 into iOS 12, battery life dropped to a degree with which I wasn’t really happy. The form factor was very important, but I still use my 9.7-inch iPad Pro even after I got the Air 5, so it doesn’t really bother me. It’s my favourite iPad ever because I consider it the epitome of Apple’s original idea for the iPad: the best 9.7-inch iPad to ever exist.
 
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FeliApple

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Wuuutt.. I just tried this on my 11" M1 iPad Pro. Crazy. So this is only on M1/M2 iPads? Is this new with iPadOS 16?
It is new with iPadOS 16, unfortunately. Which is why I can’t try it on my Air 5, I’ve seen nothing but praise for it. It requires an iPad Air with M1 or better, or a 3rd gen 11-inch iPad Pro or better.
 
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FeliApple

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It works really well on my Air 5. Makes the text a little small but WOW the screen space... Most apps don't act much different as they size the text up for readability. What I like is, switching just requires like 3 seconds, screen goes dark and poof your back.
Can you share a screenshot highlighting the difference on your Air 5, please?
 
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BigMcGuire

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Can you share a screenshot highlighting the difference on your Air 5, please?
It actually isn't as pronounced in screenshots as I thought it would be but here we go:

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Left = More Space, Right = Default.
 

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rui no onna

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These show split view for MacRumors. Notice the Air 4 Default zoom uses iPhone/mobile layout while Air 5 More Space and Pro 12.9 Default both use desktop layout.


Air 4 Default (was too lazy to switch the Air 5 back to default zoom)
Split View Air 4 Default.png



Air 5 More Space
Split View Air 5 More Space.png



Pro 12.9 Default
Split View Pro 12.9 Default.png
 
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FeliApple

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These show split view for MacRumors. Notice the Air 4 Default zoom uses iPhone/mobile layout while Air 5 More Space and Pro 12.9 Default both use desktop layout.


Air 4 Default (was too lazy to switch the Air 5 back to default zoom)
View attachment 2127317


Air 5 More Space
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Pro 12.9 Default
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Wow so it almost makes the Air 5 a 12.9-inch iPad in terms of content, very cool! Thank you so much for the screenshots, I appreciate it!
 

AHDuke99

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I am considering making this switch as well. My iPad Pro from 2017 is beginning to show its age. The battery isn't as strong and it seems to be studdering at doing some tasks. Is Pro Motion really a big loss or will the average user not notice? I only use iPads to surf the internet, email, and watch videos/movies on occasion.

It's between that iPad Air 5 or the Pro 11", but I am not sure the Pro is worth the extra $200
 

BigMcGuire

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I am considering making this switch as well. My iPad Pro from 2017 is beginning to show its age. The battery isn't as strong and it seems to be studdering at doing some tasks. Is Pro Motion really a big loss or will the average user not notice? I only use iPads to surf the internet, email, and watch videos/movies on occasion.

It's between that iPad Air 5 or the Pro 11", but I am not sure the Pro is worth the extra $200
As someone who used the Pro 11 for 4+ years and now has the Air 5:

Pro 11 has much better speakers. The 120hz screen is noticeable when drawing rapidly with the Apple Pencil and/or doing games. I believe the USB C port has a lot more features as well.

For me? (A reader, someone who takes a lot of notes, etc) - it wasn't worth it for me. The Air 5 feels like an iPad Pro 2018 to me. Excellent battery life, same chassis, same screen, and since I use AirPods most of the time, I'm cool with the speakers. The Apple Pencil feels almost as fast as the Pro 11.

The difference between pro motion and not is extremely tiny imo - for normal tasks (scrolling, writing, etc).

For your usage, I highly recommend the Air 5. I got mine $150 off at Best Buy during one of their sales. :D
 

AHDuke99

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As someone who used the Pro 11 for 4+ years and now has the Air 5:

Pro 11 has much better speakers. The 120hz screen is noticeable when drawing rapidly with the Apple Pencil and/or doing games. I believe the USB C port has a lot more features as well.

For me? (A reader, someone who takes a lot of notes, etc) - it wasn't worth it for me. The Air 5 feels like an iPad Pro 2018 to me. Excellent battery life, same chassis, same screen, and since I use AirPods most of the time, I'm cool with the speakers. The Apple Pencil feels almost as fast as the Pro 11.

The difference between pro motion and not is extremely tiny imo - for normal tasks (scrolling, writing, etc).

For your usage, I highly recommend the Air 5. I got mine $150 off at Best Buy during one of their sales. :D

Thank you for the reply. I have never owned an Apple Pencil and I don't have a need for one. I rarely if ever play games on the iPad. I use it for reading the news, sending emails, general web browsing, and occasionally I'll type a word document.

I did worry about the speakers since I do sometimes watch tv shows/movies on it, but it probably isn't a $200+ difference.
 
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FeliApple

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Thank you for the reply. I have never owned an Apple Pencil and I don't have a need for one. I rarely if ever play games on the iPad. I use it for reading the news, sending emails, general web browsing, and occasionally I'll type a word document.

I did worry about the speakers since I do sometimes watch tv shows/movies on it, but it probably isn't a $200+ difference.
The speakers are significantly better, but they aren’t enough for the difference: a decent Bluetooth speaker can be purchased for less, and it will blow the iPad Pro’s speakers out of the water. Like I said earlier, I have both the 9.7-inch iPad Pro and the Air 5, and the Pro’s speakers are a whole lot better than the Air 5’s speakers, but do I use them? Well... no. I prefer headphones and Bluetooth speakers. In any case, for casual TV watching the Air 5’s speakers are fine, frankly. Like I said, the iPad Pro’s speakers are a lot better. Better enough to get the Pro instead of the Air 5? In my honest opinion, no. However, of course, this is entirely subjective.
 
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The speakers are good and loud separation on iPad or MacBook ONLY when You compared it to an iPhone speakers… but once you plug in your Bluetooth Speakers like JBL Xtreme 3, SONY XB41/43 Or Boombox and it’s all over… the superior speakers of iPad Pro will sound so tiny compared to any Bluetooth portable speakers out there.. even The jbl clip that is smaller than the iPad Mini has way more bass and makes your heart beat due to big bass.

and also not all people use their device speakers, but when in public majority wears earphone, or at house prefer to have Bluetooth speakers
 
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