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m021478

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I finally switched from windows mobile to iphone (my most recent device was the Verizon XV6800), and have to say that I am very close to switching back in the coming days....

There were obviously things that annoyed me about the windows mobile pocket pc phones but I didn't realize until now how much they did do. The iPhone is very cool but lacks multiple basic functions that seem intentionally left out.

*BUT* I love the iPhone for all of it's other functionality which as I'm sure everyone knows is absolutely amazing, and would rather not switch back to my primitive-yet functional windows mobile device, so I was hoping someone here could recommend some options I have to deal with these issues...

Below is a list of the 'deal-breakers' for me, and unless I can find a solution to address most of them (if not all of them), I am likely to switch back to my Windows Mobile phone...

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1) No ability to synchronize your Outlook inbox and email folders (personal data file or .pst). I have been an Outlook user for years and am not about to change. What's so hard about syncing the emails in my inbox and my email folders? Windows mobile has been doing that for years.

2) No ability to sync tasks. What??!! I've already forgotten to do a couple things since I received my iPhone last week. This is basic. And the fact that Apple is letting a company, Chapura, create an app, "KeyTask" that syncs your Outlook tasks for $10 per year is criminal. This is a basic function that should be included and is in all WM phones.

3) Outlook notes. No support. Enough said.

4) No ability to invite attendees when creating a calendar event. I don't even use this option more than with my wife to remind each other of what we are doing but how then are business users supposed to adopt to this? This is just a basic feature of Calendar that has been on WMobile devices for years.

5) Cut and paste. The day I got my iphone someone texted me and asked me to txt them another person's phone number. Instead of going into my contacts and copying the number I had to find a pen and paper and write it down, then type it back into my txt. No stylus but carry a pen! This is incomprehensible. My pocket pc 2002 device had this feature and palm had this feature in the 1990s.

6) No ability to save files to the hard drive. Why? It's a hard-drive. I own it. Let me use it. What do you care if I save files to it? I don't want to have everything in my email and open it from there. What happens when I'm on the subway for 30 minutes and no internet access? Saving files on hard-drives has been a basic feature of computers since the 1980s. I want to put word docs, excel docs, powerpoint docs, PDFs and other stuff on my device to reference at my whim.

7) Why no T9 dialing to search for contacts? With over 500 contacts in my phone, if someone isn't in my favorites its pretty annoying finding them. The number of steps I need to make to actually call a phone number is multiple times more than on my windows mobile 6 phone. If you would just add T9 it would be a huge help. Then I could find contacts with only my thumb.

8) GPS. Why no turn-by-turn directions?

9) I need Office Mobile suite. Many MACs already have office. Why not the iphone? How is it supposed to be business ready without mobile office?
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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thanks so much!
 
sounds like another mobile, or an EE mini laptop or similar would help you more. Easier to find a product that fits, than jump up and down about the iPhone not doing what you want currently.
 
As a fellow PC user, let me take a stab at your below.

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1) No ability to synchronize your Outlook inbox and email folders (personal data file or .pst). I have been an Outlook user for years and am not about to change. What's so hard about syncing the emails in my inbox and my email folders? Windows mobile has been doing that for years.

Do you mean you want the iPhone to contain local copies of your email? If so, I don't think that's part of how Apple sees the iPhone. They are assuming you will store stuff on the cloud so that they don't have to worry about you running out of space on your phone. I believe (I could be wrong about this cause I don't use the service) MobileMe is supposed to provide something along the lines of this feature because MobileMe allows cloud-based access to your mail, etc. and it also syncs with your Outlook PST file. But you have to pay $99/yr for a crappy service that isn't ready for prime time. If local (non-cloud) access to your mail is critical, go WinMo, hell that it is.

2) No ability to sync tasks. What??!! I've already forgotten to do a couple things since I received my iPhone last week. This is basic. And the fact that Apple is letting a company, Chapura, create an app, "KeyTask" that syncs your Outlook tasks for $10 per year is criminal. This is a basic function that should be included and is in all WM phones.

Again, I believe MobileMe allows this. But I understand your pain. I'm spending a lot of time working around the fact that I can't get my Google Calendar to sync with my iPhone calendar.

3) Outlook notes. No support. Enough said.

Notes support in iPhone is pretty bad overall. If this is critical for you, again, you're stuck with WinMo.

4) No ability to invite attendees when creating a calendar event. I don't even use this option more than with my wife to remind each other of what we are doing but how then are business users supposed to adopt to this? This is just a basic feature of Calendar that has been on WMobile devices for years.

I believe the Enterprise kit for iPhone allows this. But you have to use it with Exchange.

5) Cut and paste. The day I got my iphone someone texted me and asked me to txt them another person's phone number. Instead of going into my contacts and copying the number I had to find a pen and paper and write it down, then type it back into my txt. No stylus but carry a pen! This is incomprehensible. My pocket pc 2002 device had this feature and palm had this feature in the 1990s.

You and a million other iPhone users want this. Apparently it's low on Apple's list of priorities (stupid as that may be).

6) No ability to save files to the hard drive. Why? It's a hard-drive. I own it. Let me use it. What do you care if I save files to it? I don't want to have everything in my email and open it from there. What happens when I'm on the subway for 30 minutes and no internet access? Saving files on hard-drives has been a basic feature of computers since the 1980s. I want to put word docs, excel docs, powerpoint docs, PDFs and other stuff on my device to reference at my whim.

It's not YOUR phone, you're just borrowing it from Apple. :) Seriously, this is a big flaw and there are workarounds but for some reason the default behavior of an iPhone is not to act as a flash drive. iPods can be set to do this, but I don't see anything similar for the iPhone. If it's any consolation, there are apps coming that allow wireless transfer of files onto/off of the flash drive.

7) Why no T9 dialing to search for contacts? With over 500 contacts in my phone, if someone isn't in my favorites its pretty annoying finding them. The number of steps I need to make to actually call a phone number is multiple times more than on my windows mobile 6 phone. If you would just add T9 it would be a huge help. Then I could find contacts with only my thumb.

There is a search function built into Contacts. Also the Google iPhone app is pretty darn quick and does a better job of searching. Why do T9 when you have a keyboard?

8) GPS. Why no turn-by-turn directions?

Cause Apple is lawsuit-wary and because they're not in the navigation business. There are GPS companies looking at releasing software for the iPhone but that probably won't happen for a few more months (probably after release of 2.1 software)

9) I need Office Mobile suite. Many MACs already have office. Why not the iphone? How is it supposed to be business ready without mobile office?

go WinMo if you truly need this. MS would have to release an iPhone version of the Office suite and the chances of them doing that are slim to none.
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Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated... Thanks so much!

All in all, I'm curious as to why you even bothered with an iPhone - even just a small amount of research would have told you that it was totally unsuited to what you were looking for. Either stick with WinMo or see if a Blackberry would fit your needs better. Sorry, but it just seems like your needs are too based around WinMo and Office to make an easy transition to an iPhone.
 
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