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New iPhone 4G picks

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Got this from http://www.phonesreview.co.uk, looks like a good mock up
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"There is a 60% chance that there will be a removable battery, 5-megapixel camera 90%, LED Flash 50%, Full metal case 40%, Touch sensitive case 75%, Front facing video camera 70%, Contacts on home screen 70%, Portable DVR functionality 30%, OLED display 90%, 64GB NAND flash memory 60%, Dial-core processor and more RAM memory 80% and Built-in RFID 30%."
 
I really like it too. It'd be cool if it also came in white, and a gray or silver one too. :D
 
abijnk said:
Nice looking mockup, but I think some of those percentages are way off base.
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I agree.

Also, can someone explain the advantages of having an OLED screen? I mean, if it is as bad as people claim while using it in direct sunlight / bright lights, why would we want a screen of this type? Thanks in advance.
 
co.ag.2005 said:
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Also, can someone explain the advantages of having an OLED screen? I mean, if it is as bad as people claim while using it in direct sunlight / bright lights, why would we want a screen of this type? Thanks in advance.
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Because they have an essentially infinite contrast ratio (bright whites and deep blacks without bleeding when they are next to each other). In other words, they are absolutely gorgeous.
 
abijnk said:
Because they have an essentially infinite contrast ratio (bright whites and deep blacks without bleeding when they are next to each other). In other words, they are absolutely gorgeous.
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that sounds great, but if there are times when you can't see the screen at all, then it is pointless IMO.
 
co.ag.2005 said:
I agree.

Also, can someone explain the advantages of having an OLED screen? I mean, if it is as bad as people claim while using it in direct sunlight / bright lights, why would we want a screen of this type? Thanks in advance.
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abijnk said:
Because they have an essentially infinite contrast ratio (bright whites and deep blacks without bleeding when they are next to each other). In other words, they are absolutely gorgeous.
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Plus, they are much more efficient than LCD screens too, cutting power consumption way down.
 
Jimmy James said:
A 5MP camera? Please, NO.
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Hear hear. The camera already sucks enough in low light. Every pixel added is a little less light for that tiny 1/4" CMOS...and a little more graininess regardless of conditions. What the camera needs is a better lens, not more pixels. Even a 2.1 MP camera with an improved lens would take better pictures than a 5MP with the current one.
 
thelatinist said:
Hear hear. The camera already sucks enough in low light. Every pixel added is a little less light for that tiny 1/4" CMOS...and a little more graininess regardless of conditions. What the camera needs is a better lens, not more pixels. Even a 2.1 MP camera with an improved lens would take better pictures than a 5MP with the current one.
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The pixel count has nothing to do with the quality, so adding more pixels will not affect picture quality unless they use a cheaper sensor. If increasing the pixels reduced quality, why would companies like Nikon and Canon introduce newer cameras with higher pixels? Though people argue this, higher pixels will result in better print quality at larger sizes. Also, more pixels benefit for cropping images. Most people don't care about printing or cropping, especially with photos taken with a phone, and that is acknowledged. Improving the lens would help some, but improving the sensor would help the most. Noise is an artifact of the sensor.

I'm for a higher pixel camera as long as it doesn't mean a cheaper sensor. I'm pretty sure Apple is well aware that an improved sensor is better than more pixels when it comes to picture quality. There is most likely some reason why they don't use one. Possibly because of price or design limiations.
 
VenusianSky said:
The pixel count has nothing to do with the quality, so adding more pixels will not affect picture quality unless they use a cheaper sensor. If increasing the pixels reduced quality, why would companies like Nikon and Canon introduce newer cameras with higher pixels? Though people argue this, higher pixels will result in better print quality at larger sizes. Also, more pixels benefit for cropping images. Most people don't care about printing or cropping, especially with photos taken with a phone, and that is acknowledged. Improving the lens would help some, but improving the sensor would help the most. Noise is an artifact of the sensor.

I'm for a higher pixel camera as long as it doesn't mean a cheaper sensor. I'm pretty sure Apple is well aware that an improved sensor is better than more pixels when it comes to picture quality. There is most likely some reason why they don't use one. Possibly because of price or design limiations.
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Of course Pixel count has SOMETHING to do with quality, to say it doesn't is just plain silly. There's just a point where it becomes needless to keep adding pixels for anything other than cropping/printing (around 6/7MP) as it doesn't increase quality. What any camera needs is a GREAT quality sensor with an ample amount of pixels. There's a balance that has to be found. 5MP for the iPhone camera would be great as as the sensor is changed accordingly (let's be honest, we're not expecting SLR-quality images here!).
 
179202 said:
Of course Pixel count has SOMETHING to do with quality, to say it doesn't is just plain silly. There's just a point where it becomes needless to keep adding pixels for anything other than cropping/printing (around 6/7MP) as it doesn't increase quality. What any camera needs is a GREAT quality sensor with an ample amount of pixels. There's a balance that has to be found. 5MP for the iPhone camera would be great as as the sensor is changed accordingly (let's be honest, we're not expecting SLR-quality images here!).
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Well yes the pixels do have an affect on the quality for the reason you mention. Not really significant for today's standards. It's just that people continue to say that it is basically a bad thing for Apple to use a 5MP on the next iPhone. There cannot possibly be anything negative about it unless they use a cheaper sensor. Maybe the 5MP is the only "upgrade" option for the iPhone camera. Maybe they cannot use a higher quality sensor for the reasons I mentioned. Also, many popular phones out there have 5MP camera, so why would Apple just settle with using the same camera in the next iPhone?
 
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