I'm about to buy a 17" Pro. As a PC user and IT consultant the first thing I do when getting a new PC is wipe it and install a clean OS without all the trial ware and other stuff I don't really want. I think most of the tech guys out there do that too but I don't know if I need to with a Mac... or even if I can?
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Of course you can, just pop your OSX install DVD into the drive, and just follow the instructions and do a fresh install, the first thing I usually do is delete all the printer drivers I don't need, and all the languages besides English. BTW, congratulations on your mac, I'm jealous!
But for the record, it's not necessary to do this.
There's 3rd party apps (monolingual) that you can use to strip out the languages that you don't use, saving you a couple of gigs.
But for the most part, there's nothing wrong with a Mac & OS X out of the box. There's not nearly as much extraneous junk that you get with a PC.
There's 3rd party apps (monolingual) that you can use to strip out the languages that you don't use, saving you a couple of gigs.
But for the most part, there's nothing wrong with a Mac & OS X out of the box. There's not nearly as much extraneous junk that you get with a PC.
plinden said:
It's not present on PowerPC Macs either, it's an optional install.
It's certainly possible to reinstall everything when you first get a new Mac, and some people make it a point to do that. FWIW, I see no reason to do that. If you're short on hard drive space, it might be nice to get rid of printer drivers and languages that you don't need, but you can do that without reinstalling. Macs don't come with loads of crappy trialware. The bundled software (with the exception of MS Office Test Drive and iWork Trial) is full versions. You can very easily remove Office Test Drive as it includes an uninstaller. You should be able to just drag the iWork trial folder to the trash.
mduser63 said:
Are you sure? I bought my my mom an iBook last year and it had it from the factory.
FYI my issue is *not* disk space. The 17" comes with a hefty drive and I'll have a firewire drive too. I'm guess I'm just trying to apply what I know about PC setup ("a clean install is best") to the Mac world.
Download bootcamp
burn a disc of mac hardware drivers for xp
follow the instructions.
when they ask you where you want to install xp, delete all the partitions and make it into 1 big one for xp alone, then use the disc to install all the drivers
since you are an it guy, xp will run faster than osx on a mac
*Stop the denial guys, we all know its true
burn a disc of mac hardware drivers for xp
follow the instructions.
when they ask you where you want to install xp, delete all the partitions and make it into 1 big one for xp alone, then use the disc to install all the drivers
since you are an it guy, xp will run faster than osx on a mac
*Stop the denial guys, we all know its true
I did it, because:
1) I am monolingual; my comp should be too
2) My macbook doesn't have a DVD burner, and no iDVD saves about 2.7 GB
3) I never plan on paying for .mac, and no iWeb saves about .65 GB
4) I don't remeber what else got cut. It was a lot.
All in all, I saved around 7 GB.
In my mind, it just makes sense. You may eventually need that space, and you have it all ready to go.
1) I am monolingual; my comp should be too
2) My macbook doesn't have a DVD burner, and no iDVD saves about 2.7 GB
3) I never plan on paying for .mac, and no iWeb saves about .65 GB
4) I don't remeber what else got cut. It was a lot.
All in all, I saved around 7 GB.
In my mind, it just makes sense. You may eventually need that space, and you have it all ready to go.
Your kidding right?
oh, and I made "the switch" only a couple of weeks ago. I put up with windows for over a decade.
You have got to be kidding? I've used bootcamp. OS X runs better than XP. I've also run Windows on a top of the line workstation and it still hicups and takes a while to just to boot up. With OS X everything is very smooth even in the rare cases that you find yourself waiting for something to load or render. Now I'm not one of those people who thinks everything Apple does is brilliant. I had no love for OS 9 and earlier. You had to allocate ram. Man was Apple in the dark ages only a short while ago. Now everything is smooth and seemless. I still need Windows for .NET programming and XSI, but I prefer OS X. I guess it's just a matter of taste and what you are comfortable with.ssj300 said:
oh, and I made "the switch" only a couple of weeks ago. I put up with windows for over a decade.
ssj300 said:
Then you'll have no OS X and therefore will have thrown away the main reason for buying Apple hardware