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jbee

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I've got a Black MacBook with 2GB Ram - quite nice...but runs wayyyy too hot. It is impossible after 20 minutes to have it on your lap, which I think SUCKS.

Do you think a new MacBook will be launched at the WWDC? I have heard the new Intel mobile chips run much cooler, is this correct?

Also what about Adobe, when the HELL are they going to sort out CS so it runs natively on INTEL? RUBBISH!!!
 
jbee said:
Also what about Adobe, when the HELL are they going to sort out CS so it runs natively on INTEL? RUBBISH!!!
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When they get it right. Millions of people depend on this software to be production-ready and reliable. There are 4 or more major apps to the suite plus Bridge; a lot to get ready.

To be honest, I find it's those who rely and use this software for their jobs to be the most understanding of what Adobe is trying to do.
 
Blue Velvet said:
When they get it right. Millions of people depend on this software to be production-ready and reliable. There are 4 or more major apps to the suite plus Bridge; a lot to get ready.

To be honest, I find it's those who rely and use this software for their jobs to be the most understanding of what Adobe is trying to do.
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I use AND rely on Adobe software everyday for my livelihood. I find it unacceptable how slow they've been to implement a new CS suite. So do many many people - as a result Adobe has been hit hard in terms of profits as a direct result. Great software, bad management.
 
Most people, and more importantly corporate customers (large-scale publishers and design firms), use CS on desktop Macs in studios; there are no pro Intel Macs yet. Therefore, where's the rush?

Not only are they reworking 4 or more apps, they're attempting to redesign and harmonise each apps' interface so that they're even more similar to each other, particularly on Illustrator and Acrobat.

You just can't please anybody. Adobe came under criticism for releasing CS2 too quickly upon the heels of CS but now that they're trying to get things right, they're accused of stalling. I'd rather this software was reliable straight out of the box.

Anybody who relies on their Mac to get a day's work done with CS should know of the issues surrounding the Universal Binary and Rosetta. It behooves you to do your research and to make your purchasing decisions accordingly.

I wouldn't dream of buying an Intel Mac for work, Quark 7 isn't a UB yet either... that's why I'll hang onto my dual G4 1.42 until this time next year until the MacBook Pros are a little better specced.

Still... good luck with your MacBook.
 
jbee said:
I've got a Black MacBook with 2GB Ram - quite nice...but runs wayyyy too hot. It is impossible after 20 minutes to have it on your lap, which I think SUCKS.
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That's the trouble with black - it radiates much more heat than white! Still this will probably keep the components inside safe from overheating. Having said all that, my black macbook doesn't seem any hotter than my old 15" PBook. If you're worried about it download an app like temperature monitor to check that your mbook is not running dangerously hot.

jbee said:
Do you think a new MacBook will be launched at the WWDC?
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Nope - too soon. We'll see a new MBP before a new MB.

jbee said:
I have heard the new Intel mobile chips run much cooler, is this correct?
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Not really, but the performance to power consumption ratio is much better.

jbee said:
Also what about Adobe, when the HELL are they going to sort out CS so it runs natively on INTEL? RUBBISH!!!
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I agree with Blue Velvet here. Lets not go bonkers because adobe won't want to release apps that are not ready. Mac users are a large share of their market and therefore it is unlikely that they are withholding software just to upset new macbook owners like you. Why do so many people have an unjustified sense of entitlement these days?
 
what are you doing while you have it on your lap? I have mine on my lap right now, right after its been drawing fractals for several minutes on a new, thich woolen rug, and its warm, but not unbearable. I can understand that playing hardcore games would make it feel like a small furnace, though :p
 
run coreduotemp and tell us your average temps, mine can go upto the high 90's (c) and can still use it on my lap.
 
Apple Support said:
For prolonged use, place your iBook, PowerBook, MacBook or MacBook Pro on a flat stable surface. Do not leave the bottom of the computer in contact with your lap or any surface of your body for extended periods. Prolonged contact with your body could cause discomfort and potentially a burn.

Here are some suggestions for working with your portable computer to address any concerns you may have with the operating temperature:

1. When using your portable computer, place it on a hard surface, such as a desktop or a tray. A hard surface allows air to flow under the computer to dissipate heat. Placing it on a soft surface such as a towel or pillow (or lap) is not recommended because it does not allow air to flow under the computer.
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Apple Notebooks: Operating Temperature (my emphasis)

This is why I always have my MacBook on one of these, and this prevents the MacBook and whatever it stands on, including my lap and my sofa, to overheat...
 
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jbee said:
Do you think a new MacBook will be launched at the WWDC? I have heard the new Intel mobile chips run much cooler, is this correct?
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The Core 2 Duo runs cooler, but it also runs at higher clock speeds than Core Duo does- so don't expect any new Apple laptops to run much cooler than they do now. :eek: :)
 
jbee said:
I use AND rely on Adobe software everyday for my livelihood. I find it unacceptable how slow they've been to implement a new CS suite. So do many many people - as a result Adobe has been hit hard in terms of profits as a direct result. Great software, bad management.
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What the HECK are you doing with an Intel Mac if your use Adobe for your livelihood!!!??? Surely you knew that you'd be running it under emulation? You can't blame Adobe for having to port a MASSIVE set of apps when you say "go". Use boot camp and run a Windows version of CS if it's your livelihood. :rolleyes:
 
Is it true that there is some sort of protectant shield thing you can put on the bottom of your mac laptop (specifically for heat)? Someone was telling me about something like it but I don't know...
 
please run coretempduo and let us know what your macbook is running at. Mine idles at about 58 C and runs ~5 apps at 67 C. Doing demanding tasks can push it in to the 70's, but that's about as high as it goes (under my normal uses).
 
jbee said:
Also what about Adobe, when the HELL are they going to sort out CS so it runs natively on INTEL? RUBBISH!!!
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Don't forget that they're not just working on their typical suite, but they've also acquired Macromedia's suite, which they have to work into their line and make "Adobe-ish" for CS3.

And, like others have said, they can't just release "beta-like" programs that are unstable just for the sake of getting them out there - they have very important customers and companies that rely on that software to run well.

If you use Adobe software on a daily basis, then you shouldn't have jumped the intel gun quite so quick - surely you knew how they'd run and what the timeline predictions were.
 
Stridder44 said:
Is it true that there is some sort of protectant shield thing you can put on the bottom of your mac laptop (specifically for heat)? Someone was telling me about something like it but I don't know...
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You can put thermal paste on the hot areas inside the computer, but that takes some technical know-how and also voids your warranty (I think).

You can buy things that sit on your lap and have a hard surface (wow that sounds dirty) to put the NOTEBOOK on- some of them are tilted to allow circulation of air underneath the case where it gets hottest.
 
QCassidy352 said:
please run coretempduo and let us know what your macbook is running at. Mine idles at about 58 C and runs ~5 apps at 67 C. Doing demanding tasks can push it in to the 70's, but that's about as high as it goes (under my normal uses).
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That's right inline with what my machine reads, but it seems to be WAY cooler than what most people report.

Is this due to the fact that people with hot machines are more vocal about it? I was worried my temperature reading software was off, but seeing your numbers was a little reassuring.
 
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