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mehulparmariitr

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Hello,
I am looking to buy a monitor with more than 163 ppi(27 inch 4k provides this) to use with my macos. I found these ones -
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The ones around 1200 USD are not available in my country India and lg ultrafine 5k is quite old to use. Does anyone know in this year we will be finally seeing other companies releasing 5k resolution monitors with ppi more than 163 ppi (and not on 38+ inch because then again ppi will go down). I heard apple is also planning to release consumer level pro xdr displays but pretty sure those are going to cost a fortune. I am okay to get an ultrawide with 163 ppi but not a standard monitor of 27 inch and 4k!
 
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Amethyst1

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I found these ones -
Out of these, only the Dell UP2715K, Dell UP3218K, HP Z27q and HP J3G14A4#ABA (?) provide more than 163 ppi.
34" 5120×2160 is 163.44 ppi; 31.x" 4096×2160 is only around 149 ppi.

Does anyone know in this year we will be finally seeing other companies releasing 5k resolution monitors with ppi more than 163 ppi (and not on 38+ inch because then again ppi will go down).
I'm not expecting any new non-Apple 5120×2880 monitors to be honest because there's virtually no demand for them outside of the comparatively small Mac user base, and monitor manufacturers cater to the demands and preferences of "the Windows/PC crowd" first, and they're fine with 163 ppi it seems.
But I could be wrong. :)

Here's a list of 27" 5120×2880 monitors.
 
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mehulparmariitr

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Out of these, only the Dell UP2715K, Dell UP3218K, HP Z27q and HP J3G14A4#ABA (?) provide more than 163 ppi.
34" 5120×2160 is 163.44 ppi; 31.x" 4096×2160 is only around 149 ppi.
34" 5120×2160 is 163.44 ppi; is a decent one because it's ultrawide and 163 is clear enough. But dont want to get another 27 4k monitor because that will not help me with extra code on my screen.

https://www.displayninja.com/new-monitors/ I see one panel with
34” 5120x2160
That can be something but I understand no company wants to give high ppi to users except apple. Guess I will keep looking for ultrawide 163 ppi monitors. Any good recommendations?
 

Amethyst1

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Do you want more width or more height than “4K”?
If it’s width, 34” 5120×2160 is the way to go right now.
If it’s height, the Huawei MateView (28.2” 3840×2560) is worth looking at. It’s 163.66 ppi and provides 18.5% more height than a 27” “4K” monitor.

I have two MateViews.
 

glindon

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Do you want more width or more height than “4K”?
If it’s width, 34” 5120×2160 is the way to go right now.
If it’s height, the Huawei MateView (28.2” 3840×2560) is worth looking at. It’s 163.66 ppi and provides 18.5% more height than a 27” “4K” monitor.

I have two MateViews.
I'd consider buying one but I live in the US and the import markup is crazy.
 

mehulparmariitr

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Do you want more width or more height than “4K”?
If it’s width, 34” 5120×2160 is the way to go right now.
If it’s height, the Huawei MateView (28.2” 3840×2560) is worth looking at. It’s 163.66 ppi and provides 18.5% more height than a 27” “4K” monitor.

I have two MateViews.
5120x2160 is more preferable for me. Well in india no options are available. Both lg and huawei you are recommending.
 

anthonymoody

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Do you want more width or more height than “4K”?
If it’s width, 34” 5120×2160 is the way to go right now.
If it’s height, the Huawei MateView (28.2” 3840×2560) is worth looking at. It’s 163.66 ppi and provides 18.5% more height than a 27” “4K” monitor.

I have two MateViews.
Wow. The form factor/industrial design on that thing is gorgeous.
 
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afallnstar

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What’s the problem with the Ultrafine 5K? I understand it isn’t the latest but it’s still a great monitor. Outside of the Pro Display XDR there are few monitors with a better quality screen.
 
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mehulparmariitr

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Yes it is definitely good for 218 ppi. But I was looking for ultrawide for a wide monitor with 163 ppi or 32 inch with 163 ppi. As a developer this will help me without scaling down the resolution.
 

afallnstar

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Totally makes sense. Good luck with your search, there's definitely a need for higher resolution ultrawides. I had a 49" LG curved monitor (5120x1440) and sold it due to the low resolution.
 

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I have the LG 34BK95-U that I use at home connected to my MacBook. At the office I have a recent 5k iMac. The LG is not quite as sharp, but it's considerably more workspace - I can often fit 3 full windows side by side without having to mess with multiple monitors. It's adequately sharp with decent colors. It does not go super bright, but that's to my liking and works in my office space.

 
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mehulparmariitr

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In 27 inch 5k lg monitor also, the setting is like this for default resolution? I saw default is 2560*1440. It will upscale to 5k but no need to down scale. Is it the case?

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Amethyst1

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Upscale would be there right, for 2k to 5k in default scale mode?
The UI and text is rendered twice as tall and twice as wide (200% scaling) on a 5120×2880 framebuffer which is output as-is to the monitor. The framebuffer itself isn’t scaled (unlike on a "4K" monitor at the same setting).
 
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mehulparmariitr

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oh alright if I choose 1920*1080 then it will be doubled 3840*2060 then again upscaled to 5k and then downscaled to 4k(native resolution)?
 

Amethyst1

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oh alright if I choose 1920*1080 then it will be doubled 3840*2060 then again upscaled to 5k and then downscaled to 4k(native resolution)?
If you have a “4K” monitor the framebuffer won’t be scaled at all since its dimensions match the monitor’s native resolution.
 
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mehulparmariitr

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If you have a “4K” monitor the framebuffer won’t be scaled at all since its dimensions match the monitor’s native resolution.
So here 1920*1080 will simply convert to 3840*2160. What will be the framebuffer size?
In 1280×720 case, I guess it will upto 2560*1440 then 5k then 4k?
 

Amethyst1

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So here 1920*1080 will simply convert to 3840*2160. What will be the framebuffer size?
The framebuffer size will be 3840×2160. It is always twice the width and twice the height of the scaled resolution you use. On a "4K" monitor, this means the framebuffer size matches the monitor's resolution, which is why this setting provides the sharpest image. On a 5K monitor, however, the 3840×2160 framebuffer will additionally be upscaled to 5120×2880 before being output to the monitor.

In 1280×720 case, I guess it will upto 2560*1440 then 5k then 4k?
The framebuffer size will be 2560×1440. If you have a "4K" monitor, it will upscale that to 3840×2160 before outputting to the monitor. If you have a 5K monitor, it will upscale that to 5120×2880 before outputting to the monitor.
 
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