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DakotaGuy

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Wow... This looks awesome...

I'm not sure if it is running Android, but it is WiFi and has Bluetooth. Makes the Nano look weak IMHO. Good work Moto!

CEO Sanjay Jha announced it has a 600MHz processor, and weighs in at just 35 grams. MotoACTV combines a GPS-enabled watch with a smart music player, which learns songs that make you work harder and plays them more often. The new watch also offers a built-in heart rate monitor (sans the chest strap), and relays every performance stat (including duration, distance, avg. pace and avg. heart rate) back to you through a bluetooth headphone set.

http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/18/motorola-announces-the-motoactv-smart-watch/
 
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aarond12

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I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a competitor to the iPod Nano or if it's just ripping off its design.

To be fair, for $100 more, the Motorola does include a heart monitor, a GPS, is waterproof, and some other stuff for health nuts. Oh, and it's a music player.

I will be surprised if this sells well at all.
 

Rodimus Prime

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the thread title is wrong. It not really going head to head with the Nano no matter what the tech bloggers and Apple fanboys think.

It is more going after the market Nike and Garmin have for some of there GPS watches. If you look at its price point it is right there with them and offers some great other features.

It is a workout tool. The nano can not do heart rate monitor, nor GPS track how you go or really track everything like the MotoACTV does.
 

Moyank24

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the thread title is wrong. It not really going head to head with the Nano no matter what the tech bloggers and Apple fanboys think.

It is more going after the market Nike and Garmin have for some of there GPS watches. If you look at its price point it is right there with them and offers some great other features.

It is a workout tool. The nano can not do heart rate monitor, nor GPS track how you go or really track everything like the MotoACTV does.

I agree...I wish they would do something like that and add a bike computer. I'd shell out $250 in a heartbeat for it. Especially something that rugged. when I do long bike rides I take my iPod and that thing has gone through my spokes and dragged more than once.
 

blueroom

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So with all the gubbins how long does the battery last? What sort of music manager does it use? Does it support cover-flow? Will Motorola support it or just abandon it when sales tank?
 

Rodimus Prime

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I agree...I wish they would do something like that and add a bike computer. I'd shell out $250 in a heartbeat for it. Especially something that rugged. when I do long bike rides I take my iPod and that thing has gone through my spokes and dragged more than once.

yeah the bike part is what I like about it but I do not think it could take some of the crashes I have gone threw mountain biking. I have been thinking about getting a Heart Rate monitor would be great.

My understanding is it could use wireless head phones and I would love this for a road bike.
 

Moyank24

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yeah the bike part is what I like about it but I do not think it could take some of the crashes I have gone threw mountain biking. I have been thinking about getting a Heart Rate monitor would be great.

My understanding is it could use wireless head phones and I would love this for a road bike.

I wonder what cycling stats it tracks. To be of any use, especially on a road bike, it would have to be connected to the bike.
 

Rodimus Prime

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I wonder what cycling stats it tracks. To be of any use, especially on a road bike, it would have to be connected to the bike.

well there are several things it could track.
It could track your speed (GPS) but it would be the heart rate that would be really nice.

The only stat that it would be lacking from a road bike would be a cadence tracker that would require some extra hardware other wise it can track just about everything.
 

Moyank24

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well there are several things it could track.
It could track your speed (GPS) but it would be the heart rate that would be really nice.

The only stat that it would be lacking from a road bike would be a cadence tracker that would require some extra hardware other wise it can track just about everything.

Yes...most of the time I have mine set to cadence....and on extra long rides I'll switch back and forth between mileage and speed as well. Which I guess it could track with GPS...
 

*LTD*

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More Moto waste

Think about it:

Moto actually paid someone to come up with this **** (or was it Google?) Now you know why they were buyout bait.

Meanwhile, Moto is sticking the name "RAZR" on their latest fragmented Android phone. Yes, they're *that* desperate.

MOTOACTV features:
  • 8GB or 16GB of storage
  • 1.6-inch color touch-screen display
  • FM radio
  • MOTOACTV Web Portal
  • up to 20 hours music playback; Workout time: up to 10 hours indoors, five hours outdoors
  • 46mm x 46mm x 9.6 mm
  • Weight: 35 grams
  • Color: Black

PRICE:

Motorola Mobility MOTOACTV:
  • 8GB – $249
  • 16GB – $299

iPod nano features:
  • 8GB or 16GB of storage
  • 1.54-inch color TFT Multi-Touch display
  • FM radio with Live Pause and rewinding within 15 minute buffer
  • Nike+
  • Up to 24 hours music playback
  • 37.5 mm x 40.9 mm x 8.78 mm (including clip)
  • Weight: 21.1 grams
  • Colors: Silver, graphite, blue, green, orange, pink and (PRODUCT) RED

PRICE:

Apple's iPod nano:
  • 8GB – $129
  • 16GB – $149
 

Abyssgh0st

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The only thing that makes this somewhat attractive compared to a 6G Nano watch (which I own) was the phone connectivity. However from the demo video, the guy only mentioned that you could answer phone calls from it- nothing about texts, emails, etc. If it cannot access those things, then no thanks- I'll buy a MetaWatch.

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boss.king

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Think about it:

Moto actually paid someone to come up with this **** (or was it Google?) Now you know why they were buyout bait.

Meanwhile, Moto is sticking the name "RAZR" on their latest fragmented Android phone. Yes, they're *that* desperate.

MOTOACTV features:
  • 8GB or 16GB of storage
  • 1.6-inch color touch-screen display
  • FM radio
  • MOTOACTV Web Portal
  • up to 20 hours music playback; Workout time: up to 10 hours indoors, five hours outdoors
  • 46mm x 46mm x 9.6 mm
  • Weight: 35 grams
  • Color: Black

PRICE:

Motorola Mobility MOTOACTV:
  • 8GB – $249
  • 16GB – $299

iPod nano features:
  • 8GB or 16GB of storage
  • 1.54-inch color TFT Multi-Touch display
  • FM radio with Live Pause and rewinding within 15 minute buffer
  • Nike+
  • Up to 24 hours music playback
  • 37.5 mm x 40.9 mm x 8.78 mm (including clip)
  • Weight: 21.1 grams
  • Colors: Silver, graphite, blue, green, orange, pink and (PRODUCT) RED

PRICE:

Apple's iPod nano:
  • 8GB – $129
  • 16GB – $149

I see you chose to conveniently leave out a few features:

• Sweat-proof, rain-resistant and scratch-resistant Corning® Gorilla® Glass display
• Touch screen display adjusts for indoor or outdoor lighting
• Option to sync with Android™-powered smartphone to receive incoming calls and texts
• Supports both Bluetooth® 4.0 and ANT+ wireless connectivity
 

Rodimus Prime

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Think about it:

Moto actually paid someone to come up with this **** (or was it Google?) Now you know why they were buyout bait.

Meanwhile, Moto is sticking the name "RAZR" on their latest fragmented Android phone. Yes, they're *that* desperate.

Umm LTD you clearly need to read this thread as multiple ones of us already explain iPod Nano and this are in two different playing fields.

iPod Nano does not have GPS in it. This product from Motorolla is more competing with something like this from Garmin http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerunner-Receiver-Heart-Monitor/dp/B000CSWCQA

They are very different products. Nike+ sucks compared to what this offers. Can the iPod do heart rate monitoring (nope) nor does it GPS so you can not upload your route to your computer nor can Nike+ give you a correct distance. Nike+ is a estimated guess on distance but the farther you go that distance gets more and more off with every stride or if you have to stutter step real quickly. GPS gets you pretty dead on over the run and the error will be a lot less.

Two very different products. This offers a lot more than a Nano. I would get this product long before I got a nano as it is a better work out product for things like running or road biking.

If I was just working out in a gym well my iPod is just fine for that.

I see you chose to conveniently leave out a whole list of features:

• Ongoing tracking of fitness performance stats, including automatic wireless syncing of workout data to MOTOACTV.com
• Sweat-proof, rain-resistant and scratch-resistant Corning® Gorilla® Glass display
• Touch screen display adjusts for indoor or outdoor lighting
• Option to sync with Android™-powered smartphone to receive incoming calls and texts
• Supports both Bluetooth® 4.0 and ANT+ wireless connectivity
Of course he did. He can not provide deviance that shows that it is a better product at what it is aim for and explains the price different.
 

*LTD*

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Umm LTD you clearly need to read this thread as multiple ones of us already explain iPod Nano and this are in two different playing fields.

iPod Nano does not have GPS in it. This product from Motorolla is more competing with something like this from Garmin http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerunner-Receiver-Heart-Monitor/dp/B000CSWCQA

They are very different products. Nike+ sucks compared to what this offers. Can the iPod do heart rate monitoring (nope) nor does it GPS so you can not upload your route to your computer nor can Nike+ give you a correct distance. Nike+ is a estimated guess on distance but the farther you go that distance gets more and more off with every stride or if you have to stutter step real quickly. GPS gets you pretty dead on over the run and the error will be a lot less.

Two very different products. This offers a lot more than a Nano. I would get this product long before I got a nano as it is a better work out product for things like running or road biking.

If I was just working out in a gym well my iPod is just fine for that.


Of course he did. He can not provide deviance that shows that it is a better product at what it is aim for and explains the price different.

It doesn't change the fact that it'll sell in numbers as diminutive as its size.

Motorola ripped off the Nano, and then added a few features that will help sell it at least above zero units. Look for the device to be cancelled altogether about a year from now, or just allowed to fizzle into the background. It's almost Zune-like. Might have been impressive a couple of years ago.

Here's the good news:

  • Probably marked down to $99 to clear the warehouse before Christmas.
  • It isn't brown.
 
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Rodimus Prime

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It doesn't change the fact that it'll sell in numbers as diminutive as its size.

Motorola ripped off the Nano, and then added a few features that will help sell it at least above zero units. Look for the device to be cancelled altogether about a year from now, or just allowed to fizzle into the background. It's almost Zune-like. Might have been impressive a couple of years ago.

Here's the good news:

  • Probably marked down to $99 to clear the warehouse before Christmas.
  • It isn't brown.



And yet again you do not understand its target market. Understand its target market and get back to me. It is going to sell really well at its target market.
You need to remember the target it is going after and that is not the same market that the iPod Nano is in. The entire target market they are going after is less than the how many nanos have been sold.

But you already seem to think it is going head to head with the nano.
Also the fact that you think it is a rip off of the nano is pretty fun as well. Sorry but I can point to several other devices that it is a much closer rip off of that the Nano. It share music player part with the nano. Other than that I like I said I can point to quite a few other devices.
 

boss.king

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It doesn't change the fact that it'll sell in numbers as diminutive as its size.

Motorola ripped off the Nano, and then added a few features that will help sell it at least above zero units. Look for the device to be cancelled altogether about a year from now, or just allowed to fizzle into the background. It's almost Zune-like. Might have been impressive a couple of years ago.

Here's the good news:

  • Probably marked down to $99 to clear the warehouse before Christmas.
  • It isn't brown.

It's aimed towards a key demographic: the health-and-fitness concious who own Android phones. I'm pretty sure it will sell well in that market, however small that market is. Out of curiosity, how is the iPod nano 6th Gen selling? I can't find any numbers, but I'd be surprised if it was doing well itself, I have yet to see a single person using one.
 

Rodimus Prime

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Selling well in a tiny market doesn't really constitute selling well overall.

What you based it all off the general population? Sorry but that has never been the case. It is going to more than likely exceed their expectations.
 

boss.king

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Selling well in a tiny market doesn't really constitute selling well overall.

Actually, selling to or exceeding expectations is what constitutes selling well. If you go out expecting to sell 10 cars and end up selling 10 or maybe even 15, that's selling well. If you go out expecting to sell 50, but only sell 10, that's selling poorly. It's a niche device, it's not meant to sell 100 million units.
 

boss.king

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Am I the only person who likes having a proper watch? That ticks and everything.

You're not the only one (I don't wear a watch but a lot of my friends do). This isn't replacing watches though, its basically a workout accessory as I see it.
 

AppleDApp

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This is great I've been looking for something like this for a while now. I know the price is right for the features but I still find it a bit expensive. Nonetheless when this product starts selling they should have made all the accessories available at once.

still a great idea. Not sure which retailler is selling this.

edit Where does it say that the watch has a heart rate monitor? I only see GPS
 
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KeriJane

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I like Motorola, just not many of their products. It's a shame to see a once great company floundering like this.

This watch doesn't look too bad though it's large and heavy. And pricey, which isn't necessarily bad so long as it's great at what it does and enough people realize that to make producing them worthwhile..

It doesn't come close to the Nano, but so long as it doesn't try to be a Nano maybe it'll find its niche.

Doesn't seem likely though. Like many of their recent products, it'll probably be sold at massive discounts, little profit and possible major losses.

Good luck to them.

Am I the only person who likes having a proper watch? That ticks and everything.

No, you're not. We found something to agree upon! :eek:
If it doesn't wind up and go tick-tock it's not on my wrist!
So what's your style / favorite brand?
Mine are simple two-hand watches that I wear on nylon strap bands of various colors.
 
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