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BMWFan

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APQv8JTKM9A

i just built the hp online with these specs
64 bit Vista - SP1
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T9550 (2.66 GHz)
4GB DDR2
320GB 7200rpm SATA
1GB nVidia GT130M
Blu-ray drive
webcam + fingerprint reader
wireless - n

for $1785

pretty good value for money.
 

NT1440

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May 18, 2008
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I really hate when they throw tech jargin into commercials in order to impress people.

The amount of included RAM is really a deciding factor for someone who is supposedly mildy tech savvy? Really?
 

BMWFan

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Eidorian

macrumors Penryn
Mar 23, 2005
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I really hate when they throw tech jargin into commercials in order to impress people.

The amount of included RAM is really a deciding factor for someone who is supposedly mildy tech savvy? Really?
Maybe?

At least they showed all those delicious ports. They should have driven home the point with a quad core laptop.
 

Melrose

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The comments on the video tell all: WHO uses a laptop for video editing? Kind of says what quality work she does if that's what's she's looking for..

..I can't imagine some video geek from Pixar or Dream Works walking into Best Buy going "Okay, so I need this laptop... I'm a video editor..."
 

gkarris

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Dec 31, 2004
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"No escape from Reality...”
The comments on the video tell all: WHO uses a laptop for video editing? Kind of says what quality work she does if that's what's she's looking for..

..I can't imagine some video geek from Pixar or Dream Works walking into Best Buy going "Okay, so I need this laptop... I'm a video editor..."

I tried putting together a $1500 Dell desktop for video editing/DVD authoring a few years back (the older PowerPC Mini's were out at the time).

WHAT A NIGHTMARE THAT WAS... :eek:

Couldn't get it to work for the the life of me, with Adobe Premier Elements.

Ended up getting a stock Mac Mini 1.66 Core Duo for $579 (edu) when those came out. Was able to use the external FW DVDRW drive I had tried for the Dell Desktop (since the internal EIDE one wouldn't burn discs right).

The $579 Mini worked just fine... :eek:

Just goes to show...

This ad is the worst one. Now many people "who want to do videos" will get a PC, and boy, are they in for a big surprise.
 

alexbates

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Nov 24, 2008
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This is probably the worst one yet.

I also agree. It is just stupid when Sheila says the MBP doesn't have as much RAM as the other computers. What many people do not know about Macs that have not used them much is that they don't need nearly as much RAM compared to Vista. A Mac running Leopard should be able to run better than Vista with only 1/4 of the memory. And if Sheila really needs more memory, its called order 4GB from OWC for only $50.

Apple needs to fight back with a commercial that lets new computer buyers know this.
 

Eidorian

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Mar 23, 2005
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I also agree. It is just stupid when Sheila says the MBP doesn't have as much RAM as the other computers. What many people do not know about Macs that have not used them much is that they don't need nearly as much RAM compared to Vista. A Mac running Leopard should be able to run better than Vista with only 1/4 of the memory. And if Sheila really needs more memory, its called order 4GB from OWC for only $50.

Apple needs to fight back with a commercial that lets new computer buyers know this.
That on top of the sticker price you need to buy more third party hardware to make your Mac's hardware up to par with a Windows machine?

I'm not even going to bring up how many times I've linked to Apple's support documentation on Activity Monitor.
 

alexbates

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Nov 24, 2008
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That on top of the sticker price you need to buy more third party hardware to make your Mac's hardware up to par with a Windows machine?

I'm not even going to bring up how many times I've linked to Apple's support documentation on Activity Monitor.

How would a new Unibody MBP not be up to par with a PC? The only thing that makes it worse than a PC is the HD capacity.

And another thing, what Frank says... "Is this plastic?". Most PC outer frames cannot compare to the new Unibodys.
 

Eidorian

macrumors Penryn
Mar 23, 2005
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How would a new Unibody MBP not be up to par with a PC? The only thing that makes it worse than a PC is the HD capacity.

And another thing, what Frank says... "Is this plastic?". Most PC outer frames cannot compare to the new Unibodys.
The anemic stock hard drive and RAM for the most part. You can almost tack on the low, middle of the road P7350 for that price.

It's quite easy to skimp on the computer hardware when you can dress the chassis up.
 

chrono1081

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Jan 26, 2008
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Isla Nublar
The comments on the video tell all: WHO uses a laptop for video editing? Kind of says what quality work she does if that's what's she's looking for..

..I can't imagine some video geek from Pixar or Dream Works walking into Best Buy going "Okay, so I need this laptop... I'm a video editor..."

+3847928734972938749872893749

Reminds me of the threads where "pro photographers" were mad cause they wanted a laptop without a glossy screen. Really? Color critical work on a laptop? You can't be that much of a pro...
 

kockgunner

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Sep 24, 2007
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This is probably the worst one yet.

Yeah. Complaining about RAM these days is pathetic. She dismisses the Macbook Pro because of the stock amount of RAM. I just saw 4GB 1066 RAM today for $55.

Also, the ad started in mid afternoon and ended in the evening. Assuming these ads are real (unlikely), she sure took a long time deciding which laptop to get.

Anyone else notice they always show the Macs with the old Tiger background, not the Leopard background? Are they trying to make the computers look ancient and removing all mention of Leopard?
 

chrono1081

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Jan 26, 2008
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I also agree. It is just stupid when Sheila says the MBP doesn't have as much RAM as the other computers. What many people do not know about Macs that have not used them much is that they don't need nearly as much RAM compared to Vista. A Mac running Leopard should be able to run better than Vista with only 1/4 of the memory. And if Sheila really needs more memory, its called order 4GB from OWC for only $50.

Apple needs to fight back with a commercial that lets new computer buyers know this.

+8593458304 to this one as well.

OSX is a million times more efficient (not an actual number) then Windows is. People who try and argue otherwise are wrong.

For example, me and my coworkers mess with all the development/graphics/media software you can image. They all have $7k+ gaming rigs all with the latest and greatest hardware and I just have my little MBP. Consistantly every single program whether it be photoshop, lightroom, corel painter, etc Ram intensive tasks perform faster on my machine. Why? Because the hardware is not bogged down on mac OS like it is in vista.

When I port windows programs I wrote over to Mac OS, performance is much faster on mac os. I dont do any optimizing, I just simply make the necessary adjustments to port the program over to run on the other OS.

This is why once I switched to mac OS I stayed with mac os.
 

tdgrn

macrumors 6502
May 1, 2008
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Little Rock, AR
Yeah, no pun intended, but she wasn't exactly comparing Apples to Apples...
I think we all know that... Since I work at Best Buy, and when I have somebody interested in video, once I tell them about the differences, they don't care that it has 2 vs 4 gb of ram, they just want it to work... Which a MBP would work much better than the horrible hp she picked out... Guess thats why Microsoft is making the commercial...
 

bki122689

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Sep 18, 2008
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She is a filmmaker, well that sucks for her because I am a filmmaker and in the industry 90 percent of the software we use is Final cut pro.

If this ad was supposed to be geared toward filmmakers than in was a waste of money. Film editors and know about computers and they would never prefer pc over a mac
 

Saladinos

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Feb 26, 2008
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Any video producer would know (and actually, so should Microsoft):

It's all about the software, stupid!

On that basis, the Mac wins. It is that simple. And a RAM upgrade is certainly affordable.
 

BMWFan

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Why would anyone need to install 3rd party RAM on a Mac to make it level with a stock PC. I thought Macs "just worked"?

It's funny seeing fanboys claiming Apple hardware is so superior and NOT overpriced and the first thing they tell you to do is to run to 3rd parties to buy extra HD and RAM because they're cheaper. :D
 

NT1440

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May 18, 2008
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Why would anyone need to install 3rd party RAM on a Mac to make it level with a stock PC. I thought Macs "just worked"?

It's funny seeing fanboys claiming Apple hardware is so superior and NOT overpriced and the first thing they tell you to do is to run to 3rd parties to buy extra HD and RAM because they're cheaper. :D

Did you just skip over the part where everyone was saying you DONT need to bump it up to 4GB in order for it to work well? Vista (SuperFetch anyway) EATS up RAM, so now we have this little myth floating around that 2GB in Vista is equivalent to 2GB in Leopard. Its just not.

And if RAM was so important to her anyway, youd think shed actually know how to install some (a monkey could do it), making the amount it comes preloaded with a moot point.
 

BMWFan

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Apr 11, 2009
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Did you just skip over the part where everyone was saying you DONT need to bump it up to 4GB in order for it to work well? Vista (SuperFetch anyway) EATS up RAM, so now we have this little myth floating around that 2GB in Vista is equivalent to 2GB in Leopard. Its just not.

And if RAM was so important to her anyway, youd think shed actually know how to install some (a monkey could do it), making the amount it comes preloaded with a moot point.

But like I said why would she want to install a third party one when Macs are all about "it just works". Also you do realise it's not only the OS that needs RAM. OMG Mac hardware is the best. Apple is NOT overpriced, but just in case buy the base setup and go to the third party for HD and RAM because they're cheaper. Funny. :D What happened to superior and non-overpriced hardware? If she asked Apple to upgrade her RAM, the machine would definitely be out of her budget.
 

NT1440

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May 18, 2008
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But like I said why would she want to install a third party one when Macs are all about "it just works".

You're telling me that the MBP isn't going to work unless you max out the RAM?:rolleyes:
 
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