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New official Mac idiot: Bought iPad, never heard or read need for OS X 10.5.8

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Kantosam

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Oh, I can't WAIT for responses like: "You should have known..." OKay!! But, I've been tracking blogs, message boards, news, review about the iPad since it came out and have not read ONE word about how the iPad will not sync with OS X 10.4.11. I must be blind. I'm certainly a newbie. But I can NOT figure how I missed this crucial freakin' part! So, sure enough, attached the iPad to the MacBook and got "the" message: "The iPad 'iPad' cannot be used because it requires OS X 10.5 or later.

And YES I searched the forums -- probably blind to that too -- saw some peripheral high-tech references to Snow Leopard downloads and a HOST of OTHER issues associated with THAT whole upgrade process... Man, I'm furious! (Mostly at me, but hey! Bought an iPod Touch 6 months ago and no problems... I just assumed... STUPID.)

Alright... take a deep breath... Is there a simple step by step upgrade thread or instructions? What do I need? What's the simplest method to upgrade from OS X 10.4.11 to.. well, whatever is compatible with iPad. :confused:
 
Buy the Snow Leopard Mac Box Set to upgrade to Mac OS X 10.6.x or buy the retail version of Mac OS X 10.5 for less and you're good to go.

Btw, if you buy a new product it is always good to check the official sheet of technical specifications of that product, as requirements are stated there too.
 
providing you have an INTEL machine, (so no PowerBook, iBook. iMac G3/4/5, Powermac or Mac Mini G4), all you need is a snow leopard install disk, pop it in and run the installer. I have upgraded a few tiger systems with no issues.


The $29 install disc WILL work.
 
Wow, you guys responded fast and... wait, where are you guys? Japan (evening and really hot and humid still) or Europe (morning)?? Cause I know it's like 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. in the States. Well, thanks though!! I will try that.
 
tooz said:
providing you have an INTEL machine, (so no PowerBook, iBook. iMac G3/4/5, Powermac or Mac Mini G4), all you need is a snow leopard install disk, pop it in and run the installer. I have upgraded a few tiger systems with no issues.


The $29 install disc WILL work.
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Although, technically, the $29 disc is to upgrade strictly from Leopard to Snow Leopard. Tiger owners are required to buy their bundle with a full copy of Snow Leopard. But you are right that upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard with the cheap upgrade disc is possible, just as it is also possible to do a clear install from Leopard.

However, there is no need for Snow Leopard here. I loved Tiger, but I suspect that the reason for keeping Tiger might be that the computer's capable of running Tiger but might be sluggish with Leopard. If it is not an Intel machine, Leopard in theory will run, the OP just needs more RAM.
 
Figbash Acrobat said:
Heheh. This.
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I know, huh. :D Hey, folks, the computer is a MacBook we bought in 2007 annnnd newbo here just found "About this Mac:" It reads: "Processor: 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo." So, that addresses the Intel question (er, right?) So, the install disc will do? Huge thanks to all of you out there...

Cue: Twilight Zone Closing...
 
I was here.... Rerading, everyone answered before me :p

This is why my iPad syncs wtb the kids mini instead of my MBP. I have the leopard install disk sitting here though.....

Good luck!
 
Kantosam said:
I know, huh. :D Hey, folks, the computer is a MacBook we bought in 2007 annnnd newbo here just found "About this Mac:" It reads: "Processor: 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo." So, that addresses the Intel question (er, right?) So, the install disc will do? Huge thanks to all of you out there...

Cue: Twilight Zone Closing...
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No worries, we got you covered :cool:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

Take a look here, it should help you out, specifically the right hand side.



Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.

If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard, just purchase Mac OS X v10.6.3 Snow Leopard and follow the simple installation instructions.

Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.

If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set, which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6.3 Snow Leopard; iLife, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork, Apple’s productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.


All you need is:

Mac computer with an Intel processor (Your Macbook should do just fine)
1GB of memory
5GB of available disk space
DVD drive for installation
Mac OS X Snow Leopard ($29)

Cheers. :D
 
Kantosam said:
So, the install disc will do?
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The install disc will do everything you need: update your operating system to Snow Leopard, install updated versions of all the core apps (Mail, Preview, QuickTime Player, TextEdit, et alia) and all the other new features of Snow Leopard, some of which are very cool.

Incidentally it may also save some space on your hard drive, since Snow Leopard is a really streamlined and optimized animal.
 
kernkraft said:
Although, technically, the $29 disc is to upgrade strictly from Leopard to Snow Leopard. Tiger owners are required to buy their bundle with a full copy of Snow Leopard. But you are right that upgrading from Tiger to Snow Leopard with the cheap upgrade disc is possible, just as it is also possible to do a clear install from Leopard.
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I wonder why this WRONG information is still spreading? Tiger users are NOT required to buy the Mac Box Set. Full stop.

The 29 bucks DVD is a RETAIL DVD, which means that it is a FULL version of the software. And it says NOWHERE on the DVD that you are required to own Leopard in order to be eligible to buy or use this version of the software.

You just cannot upgrade an existing Tiger installation with this software, that's correct - you have to install Snow Leopard from scratch.

But the point is that you shouldn't even try to upgrade Leopard either. Always perform a clean installation - upgrade installations always carry around garbage that either slows down the performance of the system or causes unpredictable results.

Of course, if the OP is still on a PowerPC Mac, he cannot install Snow Leopard but has to purchase and install Leopard instead.
 
Just curious, does anyone know why 10.4 is no longer supported? iTunes is still updated for 10.4.11, so I assumed (incorrectly) that all new iPads, iPhones and iPods would work...
 
iann1982 said:
Just curious, does anyone know why 10.4 is no longer supported? iTunes is still updated for 10.4.11, so I assumed (incorrectly) that all new iPads, iPhones and iPods would work...
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I have wondered this myself.... I had made the same assumption and was thankful that i had something to run it on without working more at it.
 
hsotnicam8002 said:
I think that a slate and chalk will work with OS10.4. But the iPad needs support by an OS from this decade.
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Mac OS X 10.4 was released in Spring 2005, Mac OS X 10.5 was released in Autumn 2007, Mac OS X 10.6 was released in Summer 2009, thus these versions have been released in the same decade, even the iPad was released in the same decade as Mac OS X 10.4, as the current decade stated on January 1st 2001 and ends on December 31st 2010.
 
iann1982 said:
Just curious, does anyone know why 10.4 is no longer supported? iTunes is still updated for 10.4.11, so I assumed (incorrectly) that all new iPads, iPhones and iPods would work...
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Probably no good reason other than they want to force you to upgrade, something Apple is getting very good at doing to its customers in recent years.
 
spinnerlys said:
Mac OS X 10.4 was released in Spring 2005, Mac OS X 10.5 was released in Autumn 2007, Mac OS X 10.6 was released in Summer 2009, thus these versions have been released in the same decade, even the iPad was released in the same decade as Mac OS X 10.4, as the current decade stated on January 1st 2001 and ends on December 31st 2010.
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So you didn't celebrate at the turn of midnight into 2000 for the new millenium? Whether there was a year zero or not, the convention was accepted worldwide in 2000, the precedent was set. You're swimming against the tide. So 10.6.4 (the latest version) was released this decade!

Artistic licence! :p Get a life and have some fun ....
 
spinnerlys said:
Meee? No. ;)
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Fair enough :D. I suppose it does seems strange to those without an Apple background, that some systems called 10.XX are so out of date that they aren't supported for certain products. It does make it confusing that other products ARE supported. Maybe when the new naming convention is applied things will be simpler to understand :confused:.
 
hsotnicam8002 said:
Fair enough :D. I suppose it does seems strange to those without an Apple background, that some systems called 10.XX are so out of date that they aren't supported for certain products. It does make it confusing that other products ARE supported. Maybe when the new naming convention is applied things will be simpler to understand :confused:.
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I just expected that if my computer supports the latest version of iTunes, that my device would work. Adding in the confusion that some of the currently shipping devices DO work with it.

I see the new iPhone requires 10.5.8 also, so it is safe to say the new Touches & probably iPods will require it too come September.

It just was a surprise since my Touch i bought in January works fine on 10.4.11.

I'm trying to get the upgrade scheduled.... i just haven't had a good enough block of time to do it in!
 
Okay, everything is fine... Now

Finally! Okay reporting back. Well, finally the iPad is up and running. In fact Im typing this on the iPad now. But, sorry, but is Apple the new Microsoft? Man! Well, I'm not going to rant! Just happy to be able to hand this off to the wife and tell her our trip back to the states is saved.. (Two kids, 6 and 3.... 15 hours from Tokyo... needed this to entertain the kids on the flight. Way lighter than our M1 Abrams tank of a MacBook! Hey, but thanks for all of you in the Twilight Zone for your help!
 
pelicanflip said:
No worries, we got you covered :cool:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

Take a look here, it should help you out, specifically the right hand side.



Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard.

If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard, just purchase Mac OS X v10.6.3 Snow Leopard and follow the simple installation instructions.

Upgrading from Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger.

If your Intel-based Mac is running Mac OS X v10.4 Tiger, purchase the Mac Box Set, which is a single, affordable package that includes Mac OS X v10.6.3 Snow Leopard; iLife, with the latest versions of iPhoto, iMovie, GarageBand, iWeb, and iDVD; and iWork, Apple’s productivity suite for home and office including Pages, Numbers, and Keynote.


All you need is:

Mac computer with an Intel processor (Your Macbook should do just fine)
1GB of memory
5GB of available disk space
DVD drive for installation
Mac OS X Snow Leopard ($29)

Cheers. :D
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Help!

I purchased an iPad on Friday but returned it Saturday when the Apple Store geeks said I would have to install Leopard to my MacBook running 10.4.11 Tiger. They said I could buy it myself on the web for $150-200 or maybe they could get it for $130. I declined as my MacBook is four years old and screen is failing.

Can I simply buy this $29 DVD and install on my Tiger MacBook? That's not what they said.
 
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