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sidefx

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Does the new photo app edit the RAW file similar to Aperture or just the JPEG like iPhotos?

Looking at the screenshots I have seen the editing should be enough for my hobby of photography. I just like the quality you get from editing a RAW vs. JPEG.

Thanks!
 

Nielsenius

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I did a little experiment on this and my findings are that Photos edits the RAW file. I took two pictures of the same subject: one RAW, one JPEG. In Photos it was clear that making edits to the RAW file were much more effective.
 

robgendreau

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Does the new photo app edit the RAW file similar to Aperture or just the JPEG like iPhotos?

Looking at the screenshots I have seen the editing should be enough for my hobby of photography. I just like the quality you get from editing a RAW vs. JPEG.

Thanks!

Yes, Photos can edit RAW files. It uses the same RAW processors found in the system software that Aperture did, although it probably processes them slightly differently. Just make sure your camera is supported; if it isn't new it should be.
 

sidefx

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ok thanks!

Also how easy is it to backup your photos to an external disk, or do they force iCloud on you?

I currently use time machine but have always kept a second backup of photos using the archive feature in aperture.
 

skaeight

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Jan 7, 2009
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I did a little experiment on this and my findings are that Photos edits the RAW file. I took two pictures of the same subject: one RAW, one JPEG. In Photos it was clear that making edits to the RAW file were much more effective.

Was it a RAW + JPG? The issue I've found with this is that if you do have a RAW+JPG, by default it will edit the JPG and you have to manually set each picture to use the RAW version as the master.
 

Nielsenius

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Was it a RAW + JPG? The issue I've found with this is that if you do have a RAW+JPG, by default it will edit the JPG and you have to manually set each picture to use the RAW version as the master.
If I understand your question, then no, I did not use my camera's RAW + JPEG shooting mode. I took one RAW picture, then I switched the mode to JPEG Fine and took the second picture. Therefore, they were two completely separate images.
 

skaeight

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Jan 7, 2009
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If I understand your question, then no, I did not use my camera's RAW + JPEG shooting mode. I took one RAW picture, then I switched the mode to JPEG Fine and took the second picture. Therefore, they were two completely separate images.

Ok, got it. I was just wondering if you might have found a way around this. It's one of the more annoying aspects of Photos, would be great if it could be changed.
 

robgendreau

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Photos isn't an Aperture replacement, so don't expect tons of RAW workflow options. Maybe that'll change if we get iPhone RAW images....

You can still do backups with Photos. What you do probably depends on whether you use a managed or referenced images. Photos is very lacking in features for those who use referenced images, but since they are out there in the Finder you can easily use your backup option of choice to archive them or whatever.

But remember that changes Photos makes will be stored in the Photos library, not in the photos themselves. If you need that data written to the files, as Aperture, Lightroom and others do, you probably need a more sophisticated photo manager than Photos.
 

OreoCookie

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Photos isn't an Aperture replacement, so don't expect tons of RAW workflow options. Maybe that'll change if we get iPhone RAW images....
RAW and workflow are two different things: Photos supports all the same RAW formats as Aperture does — they use the same RAW converter. Nevertheless, the word to be emphasized is workflow rather than RAW, because here Photos offers less (independently of the image format, the workflow is the same).
 
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