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newest copied feature in longhorn
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I actually have this new version of longhorn(build 4051) installed on my windows machine. The new ie is nothing like safari. I know people are saying that the new theme of slate for longhorn looks like brushed metal, but it does not at all. SLate is just grey, not metalic at all. Also safari works, this new ie in longhorn i cant get to load at all. If this is the best they can come up with in the 2+ years xp has been out i am glad they are delaying it untill 2006. ANy way the longhorn ie is not like safari unless you think slate is a rip off of brushed metal. I dont think it is, because if MS wanted to rip off brushed metal they could do a heck of a lot better than slate. Brushed metal cant be a hard concept to copy.
No doubt... It seems like people will try to relate anything MS does to copying Apple. I'm not a MS fan, but I do come to grips with reality and know that not everything MS has done is all bad. I've been impressed by the stability in Win2K and Win2K3, just not impressed with the patching. But, hey, who is impressed with the patching?
And XP does an awesome job of gaming. Each platform has its strengths and weaknesses (yes, even Apple has weaknesses). The ego trip on each OS-supportive site is something to wonder about. Can't people just look at the competitor and say, "Hey that looks like a good job! I am glad to see they are working on getting things better." Because, without competition, we wouldn't be where we are today.
Haha, very funny... Microsoft is really famous for dealing with competition in a "fair" way, are they not?
And no, not everything MS has done is bad, just everything they thought of themselves instead of ripping somebody else off.
Plus the gaming advantage for Windows is completely due to a) games mainly being developed (and thus optimized) for Windows and b) bad ass (gaming) graphics cards mainly being released (and thus optimized) for Windows. All of this has nothing at all to do with their lame, ugly OS.
I just can't stand this "everybody has a good side to them" nonsense when a corporation is so obviously evil as MS. They would *destroy* Apple/Linux/et al. if only they could/were allowed to.
I just love you people that are so blindly anti-MS. Anyone would think they had personally murdered a family member of yours for you to hate them so much.
Windows XP Pro IMO is a great OS, stable, easy to use, and nice to look at (once you get a 3rd party theme of course). I just don't see why you have to hate them so much. Longhorn will have some cool features, judging it on these early alphas is just plain stupid! Its 3 years away!!!!
So you like OS X, so do I, that doesn't mean that Windows hasn't come anywhere since Windows 95.
Yes, it does have something to do with Microsoft, and it is known as DirectX. This API has really opened the door for fast graphics, and I know OpenGL is there too, but hey, MS developed it for their own OS, and companies would rather spend R&D dollars on something that will bring the most revenue in the door. So are all companies evil for developing on MS? I don't think so. It's all about the almight dollar.
Now, you said as well that not everything MS has done is bad. So how are they so evil as well if they've done some good? Are you for or against them?
To the guys defending MS: there are tons of information (on the web and elsewhere) about Microsofts evil and immoral ways of making business by trying to destroy any competition and control everything. They almost made it, too. Read up on it and ask yourselves who is blind here.
And while we're at it: try to find one (1) innovation that came out of MS. Good luck.
And while we're at it: try to find one (1) innovation that came out of MS. Good luck.
Erm...
Are you sure the original poster didn't mean the "block pop-ups" feature in IE 6.4051 when he spoke of "copying Safari"?
I have 4051 installed on my PC. Slate is ugly compared to Longhorn's original theme, Plex. (But then, everything is ugly compared to Panther on my TiBook.)
But then again, think back to the Mac OS X developer previews (Ugh... DP2!), it had to start somewhere.
Are you sure the original poster didn't mean the "block pop-ups" feature in IE 6.4051 when he spoke of "copying Safari"?
I have 4051 installed on my PC. Slate is ugly compared to Longhorn's original theme, Plex. (But then, everything is ugly compared to Panther on my TiBook.)
But then again, think back to the Mac OS X developer previews (Ugh... DP2!), it had to start somewhere.
Not defending, just stating what I see.
By the way:
At MITS, Paul Allen enters the paper tape loader on an Altair with 7 KB RAM, the Altair reads the paper tape, and it is ready to execute BASIC instructions. Allen types "PRINT 2 + 2", and the Altair responds "4". Despite Gates and Allen never having touched an Altair before, their BASIC works flawlessly. Paul then types in the BASIC source code for a Lunar Lander game from a book. This becomes the first software program ever run on what would later become Microsoft BASIC.
Then:
The October issue of MITS' Computer Notes newsletter announces availability of BASIC 2.0 from Micro Soft for the Altair 8800, in 4K and 8K editions.
Courtesy of http://www.islandnet.com/~kpolsson/comphist
All in 1975.
Speaking in today's terms, it seems everyone copies ideas and designs from each other. I don't agree with all of it, either.
Um, i think the guy was talking about the "Tabbed Browsing" feature, which originated in Mozilla
aethier
Questionable business practices, yes. Evil, no.
Both tabs and pop-up blocking originated in other browsers than Safari.
MS is just going with the general design trend in browsers...albeit very slowly.
desktop-based fast-user switching has been done in many OS's before XP, though it's possible that they were the first to allow you to keep all apps open. Then again, UNIX can do this anyway, so it wasn't as though they invented the concept.
As for scrollwheels, Logitech invented them iirc, in c1990.
Microsoft seriously has never invented a thing on their own. I consider myself an expert on their products/so-called "features", and honestly have yet to come across anything of theirs that someone else didn't have first.
YEah but with that in the WWDC, when Jobs demo that feature, he said himself "Apple for once is going to "borrow" an idea from Windows, ony we made it a lot better" and he was so right, user switching in Panther is just amazingly fast. Even from a fresh boot up, login (from the login menu) takes nolonger then three seconds. and when you are "fast user switching" it truly is instint. the only delay, is the time it takes for the cube to rotate.
aethier
can UNIX really do this? one console. one desktop at a time. can i really switch to my desktop under my authority without knocking the previous desktop owner out? (of course the apps has to be kept open, otherwise, what's so fast about it if you can't come back to where you left off after the other user is done?)
as for the scroll wheel mouse, this is all i can find thus far.
Microsoft scroll wheel mouse in 1996
the page's focus is on M$ products so i'm probably wrong. but i also don't remember using a scroll wheel mouse in HS, as i was back in 1990. however, i do remember using scroll wheel toward the end of my college, around 1997.
i'd love to see your ref. on the logitech scroll wheel mouse some 5 years earlier than this one, as i was always under the impression microsoft invented the wheel mouse...